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Just an FYI, for those of you out and about today. There are supposed to be Occupy Wall Street actions throughout the city including a large one at Union Square this afternoon. They have already been at the NYSE and Wall Street this morning. Other occupations are listed below.

Other “occupations” for today are planned for:
• Bronx
o Fordham Rd
o 3rd Ave, 138th Street
o 163rd and Southern Blvd
o 161st and River - Yankee Stadium
• Brooklyn
o Broadway Junction
o Borough Hall
o 301 Grove Street
o St Jose Patron Church,185 Suydam St, Bushwick
• Queens
o Jackson Heights/Roosevelt Ave.
o Jamaica Center/Parsons/Archer
o 92-10 Roosevelt Avenue, Jackson Heights
• Manhattan
o 125th St. A,B,C,D
o Union Sq. (Mass student strike)
o 23rd St and 8th Ave
• Staten Island
o St. George, Staten Island Ferry Terminal
o 479 Port Richmond Avenue

# Posted 1 yr ago
Boygabriel
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Also, join them.

Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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I'll be able tell them apart from the people who wanted me to accept a free gift from Mastercard, right?

They already tried to give me something at Union Sq this morning, and I turned them down.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
friscopete
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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Gothamist is giving a play-by-play of the events

gothamist » Shortly after 9 a.m., there was jubilant cheering from protesters under the impression that the NYSE opening bell had been delayed. But the bell is rung daily at 9:30 a.m., and that just happened, as usual.

source: http://gothamist.com/2011/11/17/occupy_wall_street_tries_to_march_o.php#photo-1

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tateinbk
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From people who go to work earlier or are out now, has the subway system been impacted so far? I support what they're doing, and in my opinion the way to shut down this city is through the subway, as the MTA does to us rather frequently. But, I get paid very little for what I do, and if I can't get there I can't get paid, so that's frustrating.

HuffPost, NyDailyNews, and the OWS live stream are also ways to watch.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/occupy-wall-street-two-month_n_1099122.html#liveblog

http://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Showdown_at_Zuccotti_Park_The_NYPDs_raid_on_Occupy_Wall_Street_NYC#ixzz1dn7MyB44

http://www.ustream.tv/theother99#utm_campaign=synclickback&source=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/occupy-wall-street-two-month_n_1099122.html&medium=9488285

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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From what I have been reading on the various OWS sites, they are just going to occupy that stations, but not try to shut down service.

If they tried to shut down service, I think they would lose the sympathy of most NYers.

...if they tried to hold the doors, some NYers might even take matters into their own hands and throw them off the train.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Count Floyd
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I didn't have any issues coming up on the R today (around 9). The R or the F might be your safest hassle-free bet to get in or out of Brooklyn, since Borough Hall is going to be "occupied". That said, service could get severely gummed up at Union Square, too.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tateinbk
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Yeah, I normally depend on the 4,5,2,3 trains which could be delayed with the "occupations" listed. Woopee.

...if they tried to hold the doors, some NYers might even take matters into their own hands and throw them off the train.

I tend to agree with that. It would only take a couple well placed "sick passengers" to seriously gum up the system though. Like last night when a sick patient at 96th street made the 6 trains run express from 125 to 42nd. But no one told the people on the platforms waiting at local stops.

Maybe this would be too subtle a method, but toss some sick passengers into the city, flood areas with people, hoards in business suits, it could actually get interesting.

I have to get from Crown Heights to the Upper East Side, and then in the early evening to Tribeca, and then return home to CH. So, I'm hoping that all goes well.
Thanks for the suggestion about the R or F. I think those lines will be very hard for me to get to one way or the other.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Carmen
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i have to go into the city later (around 6) and I'm planning on taking the F to avoid union sq. I actually had some errands to run around there today but I'm going to postpone, totally not worth the hassle...

whoa hey whoa hey whoa

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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Carmen said:
i have to go into the city later (around 6) and I'm planning on taking the F to avoid union sq. I actually had some errands to run around there today but I'm going to postpone, totally not worth the hassle...

You might be able to avoid hassle and not change your route of preference. From the news reports, the police are arresting people who are breaking the law and the disruptions are minimal.

So far, it seems those who believed today would be "the day of the revolution" were over reaching.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Boygabriel
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The intent was never to disrupt train service.

So far, it seems those who believed today would be "the day of the revolution" were over reaching.

Almost nobody thought that.

I don't know where you get this sh!t from.

Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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There seem to be a few wanna-be revolutionaries on the streets today.

I don't know where they get this shit from. ....there ain't gonna be no revolution with them as the revolutionaries.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Boygabriel
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Almost nobody thought today would be the day of the revolution.

No organizers claimed that. No major group attending claimed that. None of the planning materials circulated claimed that.

It was never part of the planning or expectations.

"the day of the revolution" is b.s. largely made up by you.

Carry on.

Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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No organizers claimed that. No major group attending claimed that. None of the planning materials circulated claimed that.

I been told OWS is leaderless.

...doesn't that mean that the idiots who came out today to revolt are as much a part of the movement as the educated people who joined it for an hour at lunch?

Has OWS seen the light and appointed organizers, major groups and created planning materials?

Did the eviction of 200 people sleeping in a park have a good effect?

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Boygabriel
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There was no revolt or revolution planned for or expected today.

You continue to stick to your ignorant assumption.

Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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I was not expecting a revolution or revolt.

I was expecting a few idiots to try to make this the day they could be disruptive as possible among a large crowd, with the hopes that others would join them.

So far, so good.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Boygabriel
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Nice try. I didn't say YOU.

You said, "So far, it seems those who believed today would be "the day of the revolution" were over reaching."

Few such people exist. I've been following this event closely, from people who are there, and I haven't come across a single one.

Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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You may have missed them; I think most of the real idiot wanna-be revolutionaries have already been arrested.

Remember, they are a minority of the people who out demonstrating. Most of the demonstrators seem to just want to stop or reverse our growing disparity in wealth and income.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Boygabriel
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Remember, they are a minority of the people who out demonstrating. Most of the demonstrators seem to just want to stop or reverse our growing disparity in wealth and income.

YOU'RE reminding ME of this? And you're the one who referred to your made-up "revolutionaries" and called everyone out there "idiots"?

That's hilarious.

Remember it yourself.

Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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Rest assured, I have not forgotten about the idiots or the majority. In fact, many intelligent organizations are successfully using OWS rallies as fertile recruiting grounds.

Consistent with the tired rhetoric of the far left, some in OWS insist that they are being victimized by these organizations.

However, they simultaneously refuse to do what they can to help themselves. It's not our fault the OWS movement has decided not to exclude idiot revolutionaries, or flakey idealists. It is not our fault that intelligent people are interested in playing only bit roles in OWS as a result of idiots and/or flakes being present.

To the extent that OWS has leaders, intelligent people have tried to meet with them to show them the error of their ways, but too many of the "leaders" continue to be either "utopian flakes" or "rage without a cause revolutionary anarchists".

Despite this, I remain optimistic that OWS will become more productive, and patient....

I remain optimistic that OWS will set up a hierarchical system based largely on hard work, qualifications and merit.

In today's society, such a system would be revolutionary.

....too many people are in power due to merely having money and connections.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
armchair_warrior
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!@#$ delay traffic in manhattan for hours.

Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure).

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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armchair_warrior said:
!@#$ delay traffic in manhattan for hours.

Make your voice heard Armchair! Call and email your representatives.

This way, the police will have all of the information they need to effectively balance your right to get around the city, with the rights of people to assemble and exercise free speech.

Overall, I think the city did a pretty good job yesterday. For the most part, the city continued to function and demonstrators were able to demonstrate.

Traffic in NYC seems to always suck for some reason.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago