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    1. armchair_warrior
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      At the Berlin conference of 1884, European powers agreed to carve up Africa taking 90 percent of the territory within ten years. They achieved this by combining the barrel of a gun with Christian missionaries. The European scramble for Africa was the precursor to the First World War, seizing the last unconquered landmasses of the world.

      The shift in the world balance of forces following the First and Second World War gave rise to powerful revolutionary nationalist movements in former African colonies. In the 1950s and 1960s African independence movements swept the continent. Revolutionaries like Kwame Nkrumah the new leader of Ghana (formerly the Gold Coast) raised the idea of a United States of Africa to overcome the scars of colonialism.

      He wrote: "Only under socialism can we reliably accumulate the capital we need for our development and also ensure that the gains of investment are applied for the general welfare."

      The advocates of a Socialist United States of Africa failed to gain a sufficient base of support across Africa, partly due to the weakness of the working class, but also because revolutionary movements were used as pawns in the international geo-politics of the Cold War. Between 1960 and 1968 there were 64 coups or coup attempts in Africa, the Pentagon admits it meddled in African affairs 47 times over the last 50 years, engaging in everything from coup plots and assassinations, to the present-day bombing of Libya. Nowadays, Western powers view Africa as either a terrorist threat or as a continent in need of aid!

      After the end of the Cold War the imperial powers imposed so-called 'Structural Adjustment' policies based on privatization and rolling back the state. These policies caused economic chaos, and led to a plunder of public assets. Much of Africa spiraled towards disaster; by 1995 half of Africa was either in civil war or faced serious civil disturbances. Chinese investment played a positive role in helping to shift the balance of forces in Africa towards economic development.

      Meanwhile British capitalism, the most experienced Africa hand, helped facilitate the systematic plundering of the continent while presenting an image to the world of democratic benevolence. In truth for every $1 of Western Aid that is given to Africa, $10 is illicitly transferred to Tax Havens, particularly British ones. A total of $437 billion was siphoned out of Africa in this way between 2000 and 2008. Thus the continent of Africa, where 50 percent of the people live on less than $1 a day, continues to subsidize the wealthiest capitalist countries.

      In North Africa the British and their allies fly sorties and drop bombs on an hourly basis on Libya so as to oust Gaddafi, a man they claim is a murderous dictator, but it is no wonder Gaddafi's face appears bemused; as he was so pleasantly courted by the high and mighty of the capitalist world only twelve months ago. The former Egyptian and Tunisian capitalist dictators, Hosni Mubarak and Ben Ali, amassed tens of billions of dollars from deals with the West and at the expense of the living conditions of the masses. But somehow British support for these dictators slipped silently from the memory of Mr. Cameron.

      No-one is going to claim that all Chinese investment in Africa assists development. No-one claims that corruption, the misuse of funds, bad labor practices and environmental policies don't exist, but the main attacks on Chinese-African investment are not based on a study of the facts. They are based instead on a hatred of China's non-imperialist method of engagement with Africa. The support that Chinese infrastructure projects provide to African development is helping to weaken economic dependence on the old empires and to lay the material basis for a new and prosperous Africa.

      http://www.china.org.cn/opinion/2011-08/04/content_23142335_2.htm

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    2. brooklynboyyee
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      A pro-China article from China about how much better China is than the West? How strange! When an article comes from a website with .cn that the material is heavily distorted and manipulated to make China look amazing, quite benevolent in this case.

      But you do know that China sells shit building materials and weapons to Africa countries right? And surely you know that China buys oil from countries that other countries of the world don't do business with because of the massive amounts of corruption and human rights violations? China is not helping Africa. In fact, they are doing quite the opposite.

    3. armchair_warrior
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      lol better what the west and europe has done forever even up to now.

      the facts are there, its not like its a secret.

      fact is china doesn't sell as much weapons to africa as the west etc... like i said the facts are there. but the west only looks at others and go omg omg chinese are doing this evil. while they themselves sell alot more weapons do tons of damage and claims others are worse than they are.

      chinese people aren't stupid, they are sick of westerners making stupid ass claims while they are doing worse things.

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    4. armchair_warrior
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      http://www.chinaafricarealstory.com/

      read their site not by chinese. its about africa off course. its nothing different than that story i posted above. But i doubt you read that story lol above.

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    5. whynot_31
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      I don't think China has anything to be ashamed of. It needs natural resources and it is making strategic investments, and building strategic relationships around the world in order to get them.

      It has correctly figured out that the most effective way to get what it wants is not force.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    6. armchair_warrior
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      problems is the west demonizes china and Chinese people for doing the same thing as investing in africa. oh chinese brought a exclusive mining rights (even though Canada or us or UK or SA has mines there too).

      like Secretary of state stating china is doing business with dictators etc.. and supporting non democratic regimes in Africa um what has the us been doing since the cold war and when it ended. majority of its aid and investments went to dictators lol.

      Its lame lies and damn lies. its known what china does yet the west always want to look better in reality of things. china doesn't go out and go oh you west can't do this and this and that(behind everyone back does those things.) its waste of everyone time and demonizes peoples for no reason but for self congratulatory stupidity.

      both left wing and right wing media does this.

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    7. China works with dictators and murderers just like every other powerful country on earth.

      Spend a buck, light a number for one the 400,000 victims in Darfur: darfurwall.org
    8. armchair_warrior
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      that was my point boygabriel but the western media lies about this all the time. china isn't hiding who its doing business with, but some how the western media always points out how evil the chinese are for doing the same damn thing.

      at least china hasn't invaded any countries yet to sell us our goods or you get missiles sent down your chimneys.

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    9. sandcastler
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      BTW people the author of that article is Heiko Khoo. He is an Englishman who holds court at the Speakers Corner in Hyde Park in London. In my opinion he is a bore, but for those who like yourself some soapbox speechifying, may I suggest his website, http://www.speakerscorner.net/ where you can regale yourself with videos and mp3s of the man in action.

    10. sandcastler
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      Sorry I can’t get the image to upload right.

    11. armchair_warrior
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      :p pics suck ass. just load them onto some photo site.

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    12. armchair_warrior
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      not known fact is Chinese bosses exploit the Chinese workers back home as they do in a foreign country(the bad bosses anyway).

      Westerners tend to publish this how they are exploiting the local workers etc.. they are doing the same damn thing at home workers from other provinces etc...

      Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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