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    1. cool the kid
      Cool The Kid

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      At my gym a few days ago, someone was found breaking locks (!!!) and the police were called. Within minutes the police were there, with forensics and about 6-7 officers.

      In CH, police response times are nowhere near as quick, and there's a much bigger need.

      My question is, if it's all the same NYPD, why are some areas so grossly overpoliced while others are not? Wouldn't it make sense to send police where they're needed most?

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    2. tsarina
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      Police response time varies due to the number of calls and their relative importance. I don't know what gym you go to but, maybe there isn't a lot going on there (thankfully). You need to have a certain number of police to man (or woman) a precinct, to cover the shifts, and then there is the financial crisis so..... These random thoughts may go a ways toward answering your question.

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      BCODSNPKSLOPE

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      perhaps the owner of the gym has alot of cops as clientelle or there is a silent owner with law enforcement ties... Rest assured it if was just joe shcmoe gettting broken into ( unless schmoe is now a hasidic name)one doesnt gett this kind of police help... in fact the cops would prolly come a week later and give the gym owner or locker user a summons for something

    4. cool the kid
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      Well I know response times are just one metric. Plus where I am, there's not much traffic or crime so its easy for emergency responders to get around. But I just don't understand how some places are "less" policed than others if the NYPD is an all encompassing entity.

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    5. But I just don't understand how some places are "less" policed than others if the NYPD is an all encompassing entity.

      Resources are allocated differently based on population, crime rates and, sadly, politics and race.

      Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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    6. booklaw
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      I don't know whether precinct houses in high-crime neighborhoods get a larger number of cops than those in quieter neighborhoods. If they do not, then one could easily imagine that the cops in the higher-crime neighborhoods would have their asses run ragged by serious crimes (murder, sexual or other assault, domestic violence), and thus be much slower to respond to less serious crimes (stolen ipods, phones, bikes, etc.)

      To the average person, that slower response time might well seem like less policing.

    7. whynot_31
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      I'd be interested in seeing if they reallocate their resources based on population in light of the census results.

      ...some precincts have more people
      some have less.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    8. And some have more crime and some have less. But i really have no idea how resources are allocated.

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      bklyn50

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      To advocate for more resources, try writing the Brooklyn DA's office, or calling your local precincts community patrol officers. Pointing out (what seems obvious) problems to the precinct and documenting them, places the onus on them to deal with it. (911, 311)

      To find out just how much crime is occurring in your community, you can subscribe to the website http://spotcrime.com/index.php. There you can configure their Google database so that daily all reported crime within a radius designated by you, from you home address, is emailed to you.

      Resources are in short supply in NYC, and the wealthy or politically connected neighborhoods tend to do better with policing and police response. Community activism can work to remedy this, but change, unfortunately, is gradual.

      The 77th is a relatively high crime precinct; their number is (718) 735-0611.

      As per the police, resource allocation comes from One Police Plaza, and is a result of "Computer". Those results are then parsed by Brooklyn North headquarters, and the fiat is handed to the local precinct captain. Your complaints can/may influence the start of the process at PPP.

      For what its worth, the previous comment about the gym owner having a possible tie to law enforcement resonates the strongest with me.

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      bklyn50

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      In the previous post, "Computer" should read CompStat, and PPP should read 1PP.

      (still getting used to the new system)

    11. joshkarpf
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      In my first Park Slope apartment, I once had a squirrel invade my home, and in immature panic I called 911. Within a few minutes I realized how to chase it out another window. And soon after those few minutes I was visited by THREE cops.

      It probably would've taken police a leetle longer to investigate a squirrel emergency in Crown Heights.


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