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    1. cool the kid
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      It would be strange for them to build it on the Belt- there's already a Walmart in Valley Stream. Where are they looking to build this exactly?

      And Target, Home Depot, etc. have all managed to come to BK w/o killing the character + small businesses there. A Walmart only accessible to people w/cars def poses no threat to businesses serving people w/o them. Plus the shopping experience at Walmarts is generally pretty terrible.

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    2. whynot_31
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      CTK-
      Walmart competes on the basis of price, not service. I imagine it offers a better shopping experience than places like Family Dollar, C-Town, and Associated that serve NYCs low income neighborhoods.

      I wonder if it would be profitable to operate a private bus shuttle service from low income neighborhoods to wherever the new Walmart opens. It would have very limited stops, and room for lots of purchases.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    3. homeowner
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      If Walmart sites in Gateway, it will have NO effect on local businesses. The reason for this is Gateway is already home to:

      1)Home Depot
      2)BJ's
      3)Super Target
      4)Babies R' Us
      5)Old Navy
      6)Staples or Office Max (don't remember which)
      7)Casual Footwear
      8)Bed, Bath and Beyond
      9)Circuit City

      As I said before, its going to be competing on price with other national big, box chains who have tried to copy the WalMart logistics model. The differentiating factor at Gateway will strictly be customer service. Any local business that was going to fold with the presence of a big box went out of business a long time ago.

    4. whynot_31
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      Homeowner-
      Do you think I could make money from my shuttle bus idea? Version 1.0 would pick-up outside large NYCHA complexes, and go to Gateway and back. It would run only on Saturdays, and would cost $15 roundtrip. It would run every 2 hours, and use those buses like access a ride uses.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    5. homeowner
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      I think that in order to make it work you should start small. Stop at only one or two complexes and choose ones where the distance to Gateway isn't that great (less than 20 minutes). That way you would have a bit of flexibility in terms of scheduling. Overall it sounds like a good idea, although you'll need to make sure your price point is right.

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      I wonder who the local politician would support:
      A. My bus, it's driver and it's money conscious riders

      Or

      B. Local business owners who could no longer compete and hated my little bus.

      I would greatly enjoy breaking the monopolies held by the nasty supermarkets and discount stores.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    7. whynot_31
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      Of course locals who preferred those local stores would not be required to ride my bus. I would not abduct anyone as part of my business model.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    8. idlewild
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      It would be strange for them to build it on the Belt- there's already a Walmart in Valley Stream. Where are they looking to build this exactly?

      And Target, Home Depot, etc. have all managed to come to BK w/o killing the character + small businesses there. A Walmart only accessible to people w/cars def poses no threat to businesses serving people w/o them. Plus the shopping experience at Walmarts is generally pretty terrible.
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      The Gateway Mall is right next to the Belt around East NY/Canarsie. Three exits will get you there. Rockaway Ave, Pennsylvania Ave, and Erskine Ave.

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      NY1 obtained a study from the Alliance for a Greater New York Tuesday that contends Walmart could end up with scores of locations in every borough should they replicate their nationwide market strategy here.

      "The findings were that, in one scenario, there’s 159 stores: 114 of them small format, 34 of them medium format, like a grocery store style, and then 11 supercenters primarily located in the outer boroughs,” said Josh Kellerman of the Alliance for a Greater New York.

      Steven Restivo, a Walmart spokesperson, challenged the study's findings.

      "The special interests today issued what amounts to a fairy tale press release that's billed as a study, I guess in hopes of scaring residents," said Steven Restivo.

      source: http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/147566/ny1-exclusive--new-study-predicts-up-to-159-walmarts-in-city-based-on-nationwide-market-strategy

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    10. whynot_31
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      Don't mind us, just helping ourselves open a NYC store, as we help others get a job....

      STRIVE Gets $620K from Walmart for Skills Training
      Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:19

      STRIVE has received a $620,000 grant from the Walmart Foundation which will support the provision of occupational skills training to an additional 200 unemployed men and women in Boston, New York City, and Washington DC.

      The new Walmart Skills Training Initiative enables STRIVE to expand the job readiness services it provides to underserved communities. It aims to help at-risk individuals, particularly low-income women and the formerly incarcerated, improve their occupational skills and prospects for employment, helping them and their families get on the path to a brighter future.

      "The Walmart Foundation supports programs that provide people with ways to improve their lives through workforce readiness, job placement and support services," says Michelle Gilliard, senior director at the Walmart Foundation. "This partnership with STRIVE is part of our ongoing efforts to help workers gain the necessary skills for today's job market."

      Since its establishment in 1984, STRIVE's signature Attitudinal and Job Readiness training has helped nearly 50,000 individuals across America develop the attitudes and behaviors they need to succeed in the workplace. But in today's economy, the right attitude is not always enough to find a job. To help its graduates become more competitive candidates, STRIVE has integrated sector-based skills training into our work readiness model.

      http://www.nynp.biz/index.php/breaking-news/11375-strive-gets-620k-from-walmart-for-skills-training

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    11. mamacita
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      Around the 4 min mark, "I don't care if they're drop kicking newborns in the break room." I LOL'd.

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    12. whynot_31
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      Update: Walmart won't be coming to the Gateway II site. It is becoming a Shop Rite.
      http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20120914/REAL_ESTATE/120919923&template=smartphone

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    13. whynot_31
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      The NYT seems to be purporting that we are seeing a lull in Walmart's efforts to come to NYC, because Walmart doesn't want to be an issue in the upcoming Mayoral campaign.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/business/a-respite-in-efforts-by-wal-mart-in-new-york.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&ref=nyregion

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    14. idlewild
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      So much for helping the neighborhood. Most of the Shop Rite pricing I've seen are upper-moderate as opposed to inexpensive. Maybe the local mom & pop stores do have a chance.

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    15. whynot_31
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      I think Shop Rite is a big enough store that it can attract people from substantial distances, who seek special (ie more expensive) items.

      As a result, it would be difficult to tell the store manager he can only stock products which the local clientele can afford.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    16. cool the kid
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      Since the big Target shopping center in East Harlem opened I have been doing a lot of shopping there. W/the motorcycle I am able to make short + quick trips. People go on and on about "local businesses"... like I said before, they are not bussing in people to work at Walmart from China. And any goods you find at Walmart will also probably be sold at your dollar store or whatever. But the biggest perk is the value. Stuff at Target/Aldis/Costco costs damn near half what it does at the local grocers and even less than half from "upscale" bodegas. Prices are like water... they will seek their own level, which in the case of prices is the lowest. No sense in fighting the inevitable.

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