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new2nyc
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Greetings.
Back again with a giant (?) above my head.

Was waiting for my partner to get some ice cream and I had the puppy with us, so I stepped off of Flatbush onto Maple where it was a bit quieter. Began working with the puppy on some obedience to keep her busy, when I was a approached by a nice man who engaged in simple conversation about our love of dogs, etc.

A little girl is playing nearby, screaming and yelling. Punching the air around the dog and generally being a, well, young child. She asked if she could say hello to the puppy-my response was, "yes of course. but be sure you come over quietly, dogs don't understand when we scream and act silly. but please, come say hi" (my normal response to children who ask to say hello..they need to learn how to properly approach dogs...no?) she starts to come over, excited and smiling when...

OUT OF NOWHERE a man comes by and tells the little girl to KICK my puppy, and to "not listen to a word that Cracker says" He continues to verbally harass me and my partner about me being white, with blonde hair and infesting his neighborhood like maggots. It continued, we ignored completely and didn't engage but what concerned me was how VIOLENT his threats became.

He followed us menacingly off the block, continuing the racial slurs and violent threats...discussing everything from physical violence towards me to a shotgun being used on my dog...

this is the 2nd time in as many months that I have been targeted directly for being blonde, white and living in the neighborhood.

Thoughts?

# Posted 1 yr ago
fordmadoxfraud
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He ... just sounds like a crazy person who happened to be spewing racist crazy? As opposed to an aggressively racist person out to ruin your day.

# Posted 1 yr ago
new2nyc
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yeah...i dunno. something was very...angry about it. and i guess just the way the race crap got more and more intertwined with all the violent acts he was committing in his head. so strange.

# Posted 1 yr ago
PragmaticGuy
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All I can say is...what goes around comes around. This must be what it was like to be a minority in the south 150 years ago. As Chris Rock said..."no white man would change places with me and I'm RICH!!!" Unfortunately you got the brunt of this person's wrath. I personally have never experienced this and my office is in Crown Heights and I'm here five days a week.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Idlewild
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If I may be so bold: It's a combination of him being crazy and white folk gentrifying the area. And I want to add, I'm not judging. Just telling it the way it is. Change is hard for a lot some residents to accept. Whether it be old vs young, different ethnic or racial groups moving in, bike lanes vs cars, etc.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
new2nyc
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i guess what baffles me so much, is I wasn't even speaking to him. nor was the little girl his child! He appeared out of nowhere. Had i said something wrong, or inappropriate maybe I could excuse him interjecting. And I get it, a white girl telling a young black child how to behave is bound to rub some people wrong. But if you ask for permission to approach my dog, adult or child, I am going to ask you to do so calmly-regardless of the color of mine or your skin.
I just walked away mostly sad for him...

I did feel really threatened by him and wondered if I had been alone..? But again, having my partner with me probably didn't help. Once he figured that one out, the gay comments came too.

It is life i suppose, and who am i to tell you to 'let it go'..I just ask that you get to know me before you judge me, or if you don't want to know me, then why even judge me?

unfortunately at the end of the night, he 'won' by chasing me off the block, which was clearly his intention in the first place.

head up, mouth shut, eyes front, keep on walking...

# Posted 1 yr ago
Whatchuwant
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That sucks that some douche felt it was in his right to slam you cause you're white and prolly taking over his neighborhood with your whiteness. That said- don't let anyone, black or otherwise, give you shit just for being alive. He probably attacked you because he knew he could get away with it. He knew you didn't have a knife or a gun and just laid out all his frustrations on you, which is bullshit, totally. Don't take that shit. Train your puppy to bug out on people who bug out on you (my dog knows when someone sketchy approaches just 'to talk').

Most of the crazies in this town are all talk- they won't bite. But a few do, so you have to be able to tell, very quickly, who is who, and who you can talk back to. Get street smart.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
fordmadoxfraud
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that meeting irrational, possibly disturbed people on the street - whatever their skin hue - is not cosmic karma for slavery.

# Posted 1 yr ago
rezist
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Not having some understanding of why there is racist backlash against gentrifiers is actually one of the reasons why there is such a backlash in the first place. I'm often dismayed at the ignorance of so many people in our country regarding racism. It's alive and unfortunately well.

I witness daily in many types of environments, people (gentrifiers included) simply not respecting their environments or vibe if you will of their surroundings. This leads to friction and draws unwanted attention.

It's not considered by most to act like a maniac, screaming, running, playing during a class field trip to The Met, nor is it advisable to behave as if someone is summering on Fire Island while in fact they live in the ghetto surrounded by people who's lived are being drastically altered by ever changing demographics.

Not only have I been the "victim" of racists comments, but I often hear people in my neighborhood complaining about all the white people moving into the area, and the hipsters. Even the people in my building complain TO me about gentrifiers and how they make no attempt to fit into the neighbor hood, or make investments personal or otherwise. I have a great relationship with the people on my block and that's why I believe they are so open with me.

That guy sounds like a piece of shit, and I'm sorry you had to endure that abuse.

# Posted 1 yr ago
new2nyc
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[quote]Not having some understanding of why there is racist backlash against gentrifiers is actually one of the reasons why there is such a backlash in the first place. I'm often dismayed at the ignorance of so many people in our country regarding racism. It's alive and unfortunately well.

Its not that I'm ignorant about racism, or don't believe it to be alive and well...or that I don't understand about how gentrification changes neighborhoods and creates conflict. I am white and my lesbian partner is Hispanic, we have witnessed plenty of racism in many contexts. The context of racism doesn't change that it isn't acceptable to treat other humans in this way. Ever.

I'm amazed that we continually use these types of instances of "well, its the gentrification that makes him act this way" as some kind of acceptable excuse. What happened to RESPECT. The simple act of me standing on the corner with my dog is NO EXCUSE for you to lash out at me because you're pissed that the neighborhood is changing.

If by chance maybe, I was acting like I was summering on FI then perhaps I could accept this behavior but even then it would be hard.

I am living MY LIFE in the neighborhood that I PAY RENT IN, SHOP IN AND SUPPORT and that should be of no consequence to this man. I was not in his space, speaking to him nor his family. Existing is no excuse for you to be an asshole to me and threaten my LIFE.

That's fantastic you have a great relationship with the people on your block. I do too. Unfortunately, I wasn't on my block when this happened. So because I don't live there, I can't walk there....?

# Posted 1 yr ago
new2nyc
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and thank you. i think he is a piece of shit for treating another person (he didn't know) that way...

# Posted 1 yr ago
rezist
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I totally agree with everything you've just posted, and I believe that this particular person was not just venting frustration but sounds very unstable. I've put a lot of thought into gentrification and I do believe that people have a right to be opinionated about what goes on in their neighborhoods. This is not what that man did however.

You're second post was much more informative and let me get to know you a bit more, my initial response was directed at the "wondering why," and "thoughts" included in your first post.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Mamacita
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This guy was a head-case and has more mental issues than any one can ever understand. Move on. Be an example of what a good human (of any color) and member of society should act. Be the change you want to see, and know you are the better and ACTUALLY SANE person in this situation.

I'm sorry anyone had to deal with that, I'm also sorry for the little child that should not have been placed in that situation by a crazy neighbor.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
new2nyc
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I'm sorry anyone had to deal with that, I'm also sorry for the little child that should not have been placed in that situation by a crazy neighbor.

She was so sweet..then terrified...too!

You're second post was much more informative and let me get to know you a bit more, my initial response was directed at the "wondering why," and "thoughts" included in your first post.

and i was just responding right back..to the universe mainly i suppose.

thanks for the support, glad to know im not the only one to shake my head at this.

# Posted 1 yr ago
oldbrooklynite
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I can remember when that Street was all white.My Aunt lived in a beautiful home at 50 Maple Street and Flatbush.In fact my Uncle who was a Dr. Had his office in the house.I have many wonderful memories of the area.It is sad that there are so many hateful people.

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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Did anyone on this thread ever have a 8 ball toy as a kid?

Basically, one would ask a it question, shake the ball and it would give you one of eight answers.

When you didn't like the answer you could always just ask the question again.

This thread makes me think of that game; there is no way to know why the guy was a jerk.

Depending on who answers the question, Someone might not even think he was a jerk.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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http://www.google.com/m/search?q=magic+8+ball&pbx=1&aq=0&oq=magic%25208&aqi=g5-k8d1t0&fkt=8383&fsdt=22948&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&site=images&gl=us&source=mog&csll=&action=&ltoken=88691ce2#p=0

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Cool The Kid
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PragmaticGuy said:
All I can say is...what goes around comes around.

I literally laughed for a good minute at this

With this kind of STUPIDITY still prevalent, progress is IMPOSSIBLE.

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new2nyc sorry for that experience. Odds are that dude was just crazy.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
marcrogers
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so, is it ok to yell and disparage those that are de-gentrifying a neighborhood? if so, i'll be sure to yell at the next person i feel is harming the status of my nabe.

# Posted 1 yr ago
BobMarvin
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This is a very unusual event in this neighborhood and I suspect that the man who harassed you is mentally deranged. There have always been significant numbers of white people in PLG, which is one of the few neighorhoods that remained integrated despite an onslaught of block busting in the '50s and early '60s. Granted, whites have been a minority here for fifty years, but a sizable one.

When I bought my Midwood street house in 1974 there were many white "old timers" and the neighborhood has continued to attract people of all races. Prospect Leferts Gardens has never "needed" to be "gentrified" and has mostly avoided the racial tension often associated with that phenominon.

Please don't allow the misdeeds of one disturbed individual change your perception of this wonderful and unique neighborhood.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tjaded
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new2nyc, sorry you had to experience that. NO ONE deserves to be verbally harassed and threatened.

When I'm out walking my dog, I've noticed that a lot of people are just plain ANGRY (and not necessarily crazy). I've seen/heard people (mostly black men, just stating a fact) just YELLING into their phones, it sounds like they are ready to kill the person on the other line.

I would say don't take it personally. That guy would have lashed out at anyone given the chance. You just happened to be standing there. You did the best thing - just hold your head up high, and walk away.

# Posted 1 yr ago
The Psycho-ologist
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marcrogers said:
so, is it ok to yell and disparage those that are de-gentrifying a neighborhood? if so, i'll be sure to yell at the next person i feel is harming the status of my nabe.

I love you so much! Come, do some yelling in my nab,where I am forced to go without a beloved window garden due to the antics of my "subhuman" neighbors (Ok I am really angry and bitter at their gall, therefore I am using that term, even if I know its harsh)who like to sit around and deface/destroy other people's stuff, without even a "Sorry" or an attempt to rectify or clean up their loud obnoxious destructive acts.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
WhyFi
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Dude is nuts. Move on.

...not that there's anything wrong with that.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Cool The Kid
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WhyFi said:
Dude is nuts. Move on.

No, we must metaphysically deconstruct.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
armchair_warrior
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I wouldn't say the guy is nuts, happens to me alot when i go to low income areas, get called chinaman, pork fried rice etc.... out of no where and usually from across the street or up from some building some where.

just old fashion racist with nothing better to do. white folks use to do it alot in nyc, but alot of those old time white folks who did do it moved out already. now days usually it happens to be other minorities.

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# Posted 1 yr ago
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Cool The Kid said:
No, we must metaphysically deconstruct.

haha. so true

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# Posted 1 yr ago
MHA
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Ahhhhhhhhhh.

What a forum...... I'm licking my chops, rubbing my hands together wondering if I should join the fray..... Good to see the old gang here: Cool The Kid -- Whaddup son? Whynot31 -- good to see ya!

Hmmmmmmmm, where shall I begin? Or should I begin? I dunno... What hasn't been said already (by me)? How about this:
Tippingpointtippingpointtippingpointtippingpointtippingpointtippingpointtippingpointtippingpoint -- da point be tippin, mothafukkkas'!

And: While you go about moralizing, the force of HISTORY and the inability to forget it drives Blackfolks karayzie enough to blabber their inside thoughts away... I predict a 'Blacklash' so irrational, so horrible, and so unjust that those amongst us who limit our thoughts through moral paradigms and drown out the truth's of others with the clucking of their judgmental tongues just won't understand; they just won't get it....CTK and his white woman who moved all the way to the upper east (or west?) side to escape such irrational behavior as dude here went through will understand though; believe me, he gets it. she gets it. Heck, why do you think they moved back into Whitedom?

Remember the good ol' daze, CTK? Remember the '..Spitting...' thread? Man those were good times, no? Right Whynot31?

History is a strong, unpredictable motherfucker with a big dick, and without the good graces to use Vaseline... If you forget your history your doomed to repeat it, some wise person said. Well, I ain't wise: You forget your history and it fu%$s you in the arse.

Crazy Man who said all of those things to you ain't no different than all the smiling dark faces that you see. And believe me, we loathe the hipsters, we loathe their their goddamn'd dogs, and their smiling faces. Seriously WE do. WE work, for the most part for White faces, and then WE come home, and because of the pressures of economics WE now are forced to struggle to pay rents that the Hipsters pay. WE make our homes only to be pushed out of them... I feel sorry for Crazy Dude who couldn't hold his tongue. He forgot rule Number One: Never let the Whiteman drive you crazy.

# Posted 1 yr ago
BobMarvin
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Do you know much about PLG? It's VERY different from Crown Heights, even though it's just across Empire Blvd.

# Posted 1 yr ago
MHA
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PLG?

# Posted 1 yr ago
booklaw
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Prospect Lefferts Gardens

# Posted 1 yr ago
BobMarvin
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Remember this is both a Crown Heights AND Prospect Lefferts Gardens list and this particular thread was about the latter. Circumstances are somewhat different south of Empire Blvd, something you might have considered. If you don't actually know the neighborhood I don't think you have anything of substance to add to the discussion.

# Posted 1 yr ago
WhyFi
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I'm curious, MHA - when were you elected as a mouthpiece for all Black people? I mean, I know you were away from the site for a while, but I didn't think that it had been *that* long...

...not that there's anything wrong with that.

# Posted 1 yr ago
photogirl
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Bob: I am curious about what you think the relevant differences are between Crown Heights and PLG.

# Posted 1 yr ago
Cool The Kid
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Never mind all the rest. Hey MHA. Can you explain to us how history rationalizes physically threatening a pregnant woman?

I suppose the rationale is as follows:

White man threatens pregnant white woman- white man at fault.
Black man threatens pregnant black woman- white man at fault for creating the environment that strips the black man of self-control and responsibility.
Black man threatens pregnant white woman- white man at fault for choosing to fall victim to gentrification (another creation by the white man) and move into black neighborhoods where they are not wanted

Am I right or am I right MHA? Why take responsibility when we can lay the blame of our burdens and transgressions on whitey... even if it takes novels of nonsense to do so? It makes me sad that you haven't seemed to learn anything over your hiatus. A grown man unable to grasp the concept of personal responsibility. Its sad

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# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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WhyFi said:
I'm curious, MHA - when were you elected as a mouthpiece for all Black people? I mean, I know you were away from the site for a while, but I didn't think that it had been *that* long...

I nod my head when I hear leaders (be them elected or self-appointed) state "do not engage in stereotypes and discriminate against a group of people based on their race".

However, I then scratch my head when I hear the same elected or self-appointed leaders claim that everyone in the group they purport to represent thinks only one way.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
BobMarvin
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To answer photogirl's question about what I think are the relevant differences between PLG and Crown Heights:

The histories of the two neighborhoods are very different and, indeed, PLG is unique among Brooklyn brownstone neighborhoods:
§ a sizable part of PLG has single family covenants written into the deeds
§ because of this, houses were not broken up into SROs like in many other neighborhoods, therefore the neighborood id not deteriorate
§ the neighborhood started to become integrated in the early 50s and, although the white residents initially reacted with the same racist nonsense as elsewhere, they were ultimately more accepting of their new neighbors (very likely because the newcomers were also middle class)
§ the neighborhood was able to resist block busting, by unscrupulous real estate brokers and, therefore did not become "resegregated"-- i.e.: many white people remained, so that the neighborhood remained integrated, abeit with a black majority
§ since the early days of the "brownstone revival, in the mid-60s, PLG continued to attract new-comers of all races
§ PLG never "needed" gentrification (a term I hate which, like much imported British terminology, doesn't really work here)
§ thus there is far less racial tension here than in Crown Heights, the rest of NYC, and the rest of the country
§ my neighborhood could be a model for the rest of the country--something I've believe since moving here in the early '70s

# Posted 1 yr ago
Cool The Kid
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whynot_31 said:
I nod my head when I hear leaders (be them elected or self-appointed) state "do not engage in stereotypes and discriminate against a group of people based on their race".

However, I then scratch my head when I hear the same elected or self-appointed leaders claim that everyone in the group they purport to represent thinks only one way.

It only seems contradictory because you are not black. Therefore you don't have the historical frame of reference or the right to eschew meaningless oppressive white concepts like "logic", "individuality" and "personal responsibility". Never mind the granularity of humanity. To the white man even identical twins may have obvious differences in personality & development. But ultimately, the only thing that defines who we are is our history. And from our relationships & actions in history, regardless of our actions, thoughts, accomplishments, mistakes as individuals born and living in 2011, is where our construct is born. There is no moving on from the past because our past- and not our past, but the past of ancestors hundreds and thousands of years ago- is all that defines us. And every black person thinks this way, even when they claim they don't. Am I right MHA?

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# Posted 1 yr ago
tsarina
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popcorn is in the microwave! At last some great summer entertainment!

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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tsarina-
I hope Louis Farrakhan makes an appearance. I love it when his tiny, crazy organization claims to represent the views every black person.

I must admit the pies are pretty good though.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tsarina
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Hey Bob Marvin, I agree with you on your description of PLG, except for Flatbush Ave and deadend streets are like a whole separate entity from the other side streets. (I lived in the Patio Gardens for 5 years.) It was like a rodeo, wild west town and then there was the genteel blocks off to the side. The event of the ranting street person is no way surprising. It happened to me. But it is clearly very much an exception to the norm.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tsarina
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Whynot-
Why shouldn't he? The white devils are here. We are all one. And we are all one in our love of pies!

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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tsarina said:
Whynot-
Why shouldn't he? The white devils are here. We are all one.

Tsarina-
I keep missing the monthly meetings. Where are they held?

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
eastbloc
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MHA said: He forgot rule Number One: Never let the Whiteman drive you crazy.

I guess it's too late for you, huh?

Maybe it was MHA the OP had a run-in with.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tsarina
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At the Armories silly! You know we had to get a bigger place to rally all the troops for our giant white conspiracies.

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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tsarina said:
At the Armories silly! You know we had to get a bigger place to rally all the troops for our giant white conspiracies.

But I find it impossible to agree with anyone on everything.

....and I find that I want nothing to do with idiots with whom I merely share a hue. Similarly, I find I want nothing to do with idiots that do not share my hue.

This must be why I was not invited.

If you were invited, I suspect it was in error.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tsarina
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whynot_31 said:
But I find it impossible to agree with anyone on everything.

....and I find that I want nothing to do with idiots whom I merely share a hue. Similarly, I find I want nothing to do with idiots that do not share my hue.

This must be why I was not invited.

If you were invited, I suspect it was in error.

Well its true I don't fit in anywhere. And they looked at me kinda funny at the last meeting, And I rarely want to belong to a club who would have me as a member, but we are all white so we all have to think as a group hence I disagree with you as to my being invited. Its all so confusing. I like it better when they send the newsletter and tell me what to think!

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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I find that when I am among only people who look like me, the food is horrible. For some reason, they only eat cabbage, potatoes and corned beef when they get together.

I sometimes sneak out for Chinese food.

Hey speaking of newsletters that try to tell you how to think, I tired to get a copy of The Final Call, from one of those guys selling pies at the Brooklyn Bridge, but he said it wasn't for me.

It came as surprise to me that people still wear bow ties.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
tsarina
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whynot_31 said:
I find that when I am among only people who look like me, the food is horrible. For some reason, they only eat cabbage, potatoes and corned beef when they get together.

I sometimes sneak out for Chinese food.

Hey speaking of newsletters that try to tell you how to think, I tired to get a copy of The Final Call, from one of those guys selling pies at the Brooklyn Bridge, but he said it wasn't for me.

It came as surprise to me that people still wear bow ties.

I only eat the potatoes and cabbage if they are certified organic, and the corned beef if it is grain fed, free range. But that is only the weeks when I'm not being vegan. What other kind of food is there?
Regarding that newsletter - try taking your hood off next time. Those guys will take all your money for the newspaper and the pies, they don't care what color you are as long as the money is green.

As for the bow ties - my architect is a bow tie totting architect.

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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That is fabulous news!

I will be sure to let them know that their sense of fashion is shared by an architect.
I imagine they get tired of being compared only to bow tie wearing characters like Krusty the clown.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

# Posted 1 yr ago
whynot_31
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I must say that everyone who judges someone by thier hue reminds me of a clown, regardless of whether they are wearing a bow tie or hood.

For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

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