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agreed
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Cap'n Planet, I'm not up to it. I'm exhausted by it. I feel like an utter idiot to be honest. Believe it or not, I've done my fair share. Please, allow me to toot my sad horn:
I'm a bit of a night animal and I often go outside to get a late snack. Invariably the tattoed hipsters with their swinging earlobes are all about, smoking and getting to know each other, and besides using every dark corner as a urine depository, they have taken to use the very objects that have made the neighborhood ideal -- i.e. the attempts to beautify it -- as a means for their vices. Observe the planters on Franklin Avenue, many of them, mind you that I helped to move. Now let me be clear, here. I am not the only party who did this, and it is my assumption that others who too were morally vested feel similarly, and that is, it pains me to see these hipster doofusses pissing in them, throwing litter in them and flattening the vegetation lovingly planted in them. How do you compete with human pathos in any form? You control it, and you regulate it. You cannot wag a finger at it and expect it to change however, it never does.... I don't have the power nor the authority to do any of these things, and what history has proven, and whynot_31 points out, is that there is always a parasite waiting to benefit from your endeavors and good intentions.
Unlike eastbloc's eggregious presumptions about what I will potentially do to piss off the whitefolks, I too take issue with the consequences of vice bandied about. The only thing I will do to piss off the whitefolks is to constantly inform them of how the vestiges of white supremacy manifest in their daily lives, and that they have an obligation to be aware of it, though so few do. As a man of African descent, I see every moment how white supremacy seeps into mostly everything, and spoils it. Indeed, it's one of the worst poisons the world has ever given birth to, and I do my best to stanch it when I encounter it. I recall a time when I too felt it's paws in my brain. Like CTK I too saw the white woman as beauty's ideal -- though I was only 12 at the time -- but I've been able to see how beauty is in everyone, and now being an educated, CONSCIOUS Black man -- the result of my parent's endeavors -- how choosing to sleep with the daughter of my oppressor would be a slap in my hard working parent's face. Yea, I've learned the folly of walking in that valley of the shadow of death -- and fearing no evil to boot.
I am blessed to live again, and I will teach my young seedling the value of living with integrity. That's my priority; no longer will I make attempt to align with the interests of the propertied, or the merchant class unless like them, I too prosper from my endeavors.
The MySpace ilk have no love for anyone in this neighborhood. Their plan is no different than the objective of anyone who ever played Monopoly. And all whom have played that game know that once the board is all bought up, the game is over. If you don't believe me, then talk a nice walk to Lefferts Place between St. James and Franklin and see, yet again, another example of the objective of 722 Franklin LLC -- which seems to be buy it, sit on it, and wait.....
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Get off your high horse, MHA. We're all men of African descent. Except for those of us who are women of African descent.
I feel bad for the little racist kid you're gonna try to raise. I hope he grows up to be a Republican.
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Karl the Druid said:
the scourge of mischief is roostedin this arena
Are you talking about Jay Z?
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If only there were entrance exams. Then, only good people could have the right to call themselves Republican, Democrat, Christian, Muslim, Gay, what-have-you.
It would be awesome.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
karl is druish
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If Whynot were to design and administer said test, it would show that Karl is a good Druid.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Sounds like youre lonely/antisocial, why not talk to emMHA said:
Invariably the tattoed hipsters with their swinging earlobes are all about, smoking and getting to know each other,
unlike the folks who you claim actually belong to the neighborhood who instruct their kids to piss on other people's stoops in broad daylight?MHA said:
and besides using every dark corner as a urine depository,MHA said:
see these hipster doofusses pissing in them, throwing litter in them and flattening the vegetation lovingly planted in them.I almost want to say you're lying, but even if we give you the benefit of the doubt, why direct your anger at them, when folks of your own skin color are damaging the neighborhood one hundredfold? You feign outrage and stereotype those who don't look like you based on one or two bad apples, but close your eyes and ears or express sympathy/understanding when your own people do the same thing. White guy pisses in a pot, its heartbreaking. Black guy pisses on a stoop, MHA swoops in with the cape
MHA said:
Unlike eastbloc's eggregious presumptions about what I will potentially do to piss off the whitefolks, I too take issue with the consequences of vice bandied about. The only thing I will do to piss off the whitefolks is to constantly inform them of how the vestiges of white supremacy manifest in their daily lives, and that they have an obligation to be aware of it, though so few do. As a man of African descent, I see every moment how white supremacy seeps into mostly everything, and spoils it. Indeed, it's one of the worst poisons the world has ever given birth to, and I do my best to stanch it when I encounter it. I recall a time when I too felt it's paws in my brain. Like CTK I too saw the white woman as beauty's ideal -- though I was only 12 at the time -- but I've been able to see how beauty is in everyone, and now being an educated, CONSCIOUS Black man -- the result of my parent's endeavors -- how choosing to sleep with the daughter of my oppressor would be a slap in my hard working parent's face. Yea, I've learned the folly of walking in that valley of the shadow of death -- and fearing no evil to boot.I am blessed to live again, and I will teach my young seedling the value of living with integrity. That's my priority; no longer will I make attempt to align with the interests of the propertied, or the merchant class unless like them, I too prosper from my endeavors.
The MySpace ilk have no love for anyone in this neighborhood. Their plan is no different than the objective of anyone who ever played Monopoly. And all whom have played that game know that once the board is all bought up, the game is over. If you don't believe me, then talk a nice walk to Lefferts Place between St. James and Franklin and see, yet again, another example of the objective of 722 Franklin LLC -- which seems to be buy it, sit on it, and wait.....
Classic MHA
[Mamacita said:
I <3 CTK
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MHA was hating hipsters before it was cool
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Hipsters are latter day white negroes. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Negro]
They may not see themselves as such, but alas, that's the connection. Hippies, Yippies, White Rastafarians, Jack-Kerowackians,-- them all -- They all associate their version of subversive behavior with that of the American Negro and his brethren in the worldwide Black Diaspora. And,to add insult to injury, what they associate with Black subversive behavior is always the chaff of Black political thought and never the 'wheat'. So, say, you go to Argentina for instance, and you encounter the White hipsters there -- and they are there -- thay embellish themselves with the accoutrements of Rastafarianism (the colors, the music and the smoke), but leave out the core elements of Rastafarianism -- Pan-Africanism, Black Nationalist sentiment, Black businesses working in tandem, building the Black family, etc -- what ironically enough would be considered conservative family values. the cult of the hipster is no different than that of any cult -- in essence fitting into to herd, and moving up the hierarchy. It's just another way of sublimating the typical human need to feel empowered. And in true American fashion, the hipster ethos is all about celebrating the ego, appropriating what seems (and is deemed) cool, all in the name of Hipsterdom. Thus, contemporaneously, the enlarged earlobes, the dreadlocked hair, the torn and worn clothes aesthetic. It's a way of BEing without any historical memory of how it came to BE. Hipsters don the look of a man/woman/child on hard times because the assumption is, like Maya Angelou said, caged birds sing the sweetest.
So yeah, I hate the attempt to once again appropriate Black existential pain specifically for the sole purpose of ego aggrandizement. I hate the attempt to appropriate existential pain generally, for the same purposes.
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Regarding my high horse eastbloc, other than beseeching I get off it, you offer no cogent rebuttal to the points I make. And, implicit in your response is that I am a racist, or, if I am not a racist, I am definitely going to try and raise my child/children as racist. Which, if you dig a little deeper, means your are implying that I am a racist.
I am not a racist. A racist holds hatred in his heart for a social construct, which itself is illusory and ironically quite real.
And, if you dig even a little deeper what you are saying is that Pan Africanism -- it too a social construct that led to the liberation of enslaved and colonialised peoples on continental Africa and in the African Diaspora -- is racist, which it is not. And, by default you are saying that Black Nationalism, an ethos derived from Pan-Africanism is also a racist philosophy -- which it is not.
I could assume that you are purposely trying to smear these two ideologies as racist so as to smother honest dialogue about how philosophy, ideology encounter each other in the banal - i.e. life in Crown Heights -- but I am instead going to PRESUME that you have no idea what Pan Africanism and Black Nationalism are, so in your ignorance you broadbrush my perspective by calling it racist. Dearie, to quote our fallen soldier Flavor Flave in 'She Watch Channel Zero, '...Read a book or somethin'!'
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MHA, Wouldn't it be weird if white hipsters were celebrating black nationalism and building a black family?
It was interesting to hear your perspective though. I definitely think that is part of it.
As an aside, have you noticed how hip hop culture has incorporated lots of emo/hipster dress, such as trucker hats and skinny jeans? I'm not exactly sure when that started. They would never wear that shit in the 90s.
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The trucker hats looks silly no matter who wears them.
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MHA, you're as racist as Hitler. In fact, your particular ideology resembles Nazi thought very closely, not too surprising since "nationalism" figures prominently in the labels which you have just ascribed to yourself.
Hitler, too, was obsessed with the idea of blaming another race for all the ill that had befallen Germany. Like you, he saw insidious behavior in all that the Jews were doing -- running industry, finance, banks, taking special privileges for themselves, drinking the blood of gentiles, etc.
Unlike you, he then hatched a genocidal plot to seize power and advance these racist interests. But those just made him a warmonger and a murderer on top of being a racist. That describes his ideas more than his actions.
(And no, it doesn't matter whether the ideas in question are held by those in the majority or in positions of authority, or by an actual minority. Let's just preempt that old canard.)
You're a prize racist, MHA. You've just manage to intellectualize it all, which allows you to prevaricate about it as if it was a valid political ideology and not a sad, angry, alienated corner of your mind.
MOD NOTE: Aaaaaand we have achieved Godwin. Thread locked. Thanks for playing, all.
Any new attempts to continue this on other threads will be deleted. Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard, everyone. (Remember site rules: Be nice!)
Now let's all get out there and spread sunshine and rainbows. Thanks.
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