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im off this summer and walk by 7-11 a good amount of times during the day how come there's always 2-5 officers and a police van hanging out, reading the paper inside all day? always arresting a couple kids outside too .. im not saying kids didnt deserve it, but you have to figure that a couple kids being too loud during a summer night isn't deserving of police attention ... serve and protect huh? or what about the officers working the beat on fulton st everyday asking people not to smoke cigarettes on someone's stoop .. how ridiculous is it to have six officers patrolling a highly public area during the daytime? if they could be working at night, maybe that might make some people feel a little better about walking home from the subway .. but nah, they'd rather chill out in dunkin donuts for 20 minutes at a time .. just what are these cops doing aside from nothing?
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There's a new cadet class out, just graduated. Perhaps it serves as a checkpoint / check-in station for them, while they are out in the neighborhood for training? Just a guess.i extend my battery life by turning down the brightness
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There's a 7-11 on Atlantic?!?!?! Where?
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Whatchuwant » There's a 7-11 on Atlantic?!?!?! Where?
Seriously ...I so want a slurpee. I thought the nearest on was on 23rd and Park (near Baruch) For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
I seem to recall another one on 5th Avenue around 12 Street (or thereabouts). ***edited to add: The 7-Eleven web site shows one on Atlantic at Brooklyn Ave.i extend my battery life by turning down the brightness
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Last I checked, 7-11 sold Krispy Kreme doughnuts 24/7. That could be the answer.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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7-11 on brooklyn and atlantic you know, east of where you live
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7-11 on atlantic and brooklyn avenues. Two years ago I went there to buy some gas on a Sunday afternoon. When I walked in, the staff, mainly the lady at the cash register, were tense and agitated. Seems that local youth (maybe gang related) would come in and taunt the staff before they would snatch and run with snack food, or whatever they could grab. It became so severe that the police would post up.
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7-11 on atlantic and brooklyn avenues. Re: your second question. The police are on Fulton Street b/c it has been deemed an "imact area" by the NYPD If you want to find out about policing schemes and deployment, and why there aren't police deployed during what most of us consider critical hours, join your block association, and/or attend your local community board or local precinct meetings. Did you notice that the US Department of Justice denied stimulus funds to ALL of NYC? Do you notice that police are ALWAYS heavily deployed in the borough of Manhattan, in high rent business districts? This is how our tax resources are being allocated. If you want action, get active.
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So you feel the people who pay the most taxes shouldn't have the most police deployed in their area?Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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So you feel the people who pay the most taxes shouldn't have the most police deployed in their area?
the people that NEED the police the most should have the most police deployed in their area. -
Possibly the reason those areas don't need police is that they have the police deployed there. The moment the police are not deployed there they will need them as they have the most to lose. Possibly.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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Possibly the reason those areas don't need police is that they have the police deployed there. The moment the police are not deployed there they will need them as they have the most to lose.
yea, the lawyers and finance guys would probably be out on the corner slinging crack if the cops weren't around.[/quote] -
No, they have jobs. They studied and worked hard for those jobs even if you don't like what they do. That's different then a crack dealer. IMOWalking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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No, they have jobs. They studied and worked hard for those jobs even if you don't like what they do. That's different then a crack dealer. IMO
i was being sarcastic.Possibly the reason those areas don't need police is that they have the police deployed there. The moment the police are not deployed there they will need them as they have the most to lose.
this post was kind of offensive. what do you mean by "most to lose"? -
I would assume that those businesses who rent in a high rent business district have more expensive/valuable/desirable/whatever "stuff" than those businesses who rent in a low rent business district. IMOWalking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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I would assume that those businesses who rent in a high rent business district have more expensive/valuable/desirable/whatever "stuff" than those businesses who rent in a low rent business district.
i am talking about drug dealing, shootings, assaults, and murders. not stealing office machinery from businesses. i think you are a little off target here. IMO -
I was talking about why the police are needed. It's not office machinery, it's private property. Respect.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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meredith, what is your point? are you saying that more police are needed in manhattan than central brooklyn?
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mr. met »
A reem of paper and gel pens taken from a ritzy midtown office is certainly worth more than some hoodlums life?Possibly the reason those areas don't need police is that they have the police deployed there. The moment the police are not deployed there they will need them as they have the most to lose.
this post was kind of offensive. what do you mean by "most to lose"?
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A reem of paper and gel pens ain't ever going to murder anyone.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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A reem of paper and gel pens ain't ever going to murder anyone.
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?????? Wake up to reality.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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?????? Wake up to reality.
i'm not sure if you're joking. if you're not, why don't you answer the question i asked you above? the one about what your point is. -
The point is, the police are needed in many areas for many different reasons. But to say that they aren't needed as much in the high rent districts and needed more in the low rent districts is ludicrous. Got it?Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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And to think that all there is to steal in the high rent district is office machinery, a reem of paper and gel pens is really out of touch with reality.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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The point is, the police are needed in many areas for many different reasons. But to say that they aren't needed as much in the high rent districts and needed more in the low rent districts is ludicrous.
but why are you talking about rents in the first place? isn't CRIME the issue? go look at a crime map and compare central brooklyn to manhattan. what conclusions do you draw? -
also, why are you only worried about theft? like i said above, what about drug dealing, murder, shootings, etc.?
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when i lived on the upper east side, i never saw the police. guess why? they weren't needed!
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Can we please get back to the Slurpees.i extend my battery life by turning down the brightness
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Can we please get back to the Slurpees.
yes yes. slurpees are there and they are delicious. -
do they have cherry/strawberry flavor? ...aka "red flavor"For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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coke, red, green, and blue flavors
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MeredithB » The point is, the police are needed in many areas for many different reasons. But to say that they aren't needed as much in the high rent districts and needed more in the low rent districts is ludicrous. Got it?
Ummmmmmmmmmmm "High rent" areas = little to no crime "Low rent" area = a lot of crime Cops respond to and protect areas from crime Seems ur theory is wrong[Mamacita said:
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High rent areas = A significant amount of people who are high on the food chain who have made their money by eating the results of those who are beneath them on the food chain. If you read "Complicity: How the North promoted, prolonged and profited from slavery" you will see the names of almost all of the prominent and high esteemed persons, families, businessmen and financial institutions. These are many of the folks living in the high rent districts. (i.e. defunct Lehman Brothers). If you are applauding all of the mechanisms of Darwinian philosophy, then your first post was sufficient. If you are a Conservative who functions in the mode of those profiled in Jeff Sharlet's book "The Family", then you have exposed yourself. If you align yourself with the ravenous modality of Bernie Madoff, the I pray for you. The purpose of my post was the fact that 1. We are being governed (locally) by a billionaire who has not kept his word 2. We get the government that we demand 3. Our collective taxes count for more than we are receiving
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You've done a fine job at alienating yourself. If you read a book called, "Making Allusions to Texts Without Explaining Them and Using Syntactically Confusing Phrases," I think you'll see that all those "C" grades you received on papers in college were because your professors had no clue what you were talking about. xoxo
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bklyn50 » High rent areas = A significant amount of people who are high on the food chain who have made their money by eating the results of those who are beneath them on the food chain.
In your opinion.bklyn50 » These are many of the folks living in the high rent districts. (i.e. defunct Lehman Brothers).
Many? I'd say more like "a few".bklyn50 » 3. Our collective taxes count for more than we are receiving
Really? How much do you pay in taxes? IMO, it's not the amount of $ that's the problem.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches. -
Cool The Kid » "High rent" areas = little to no crime "Low rent" area = a lot of crime Cops respond to and protect areas from crime Seems ur theory is wrong
ummmmmmmmmmm your words, not mine.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches. -
BrooklynBoyyee » when i lived on the upper east side, i never saw the police. guess why? they weren't needed!
Why weren't they needed?Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches. -
crime map of New York Looks to me that most of the crime occurs in the high rent district known as Manhattan.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
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Looks to me that most of the crime occurs in the high rent district known as Manhattan.
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As for Mr. Boyyee: Your original question was about policing. If you REALLY wanted answers to the questions you posed, you wouldn't post them in a blog; you would ask questions at whatever you thought was the proper venue. If you had already posed those questions to the proper persons, then you might have shared their answers with this thread. So you either haven't done that, or you are selfish. As for my writing style, I assumed that you could follow a thread. If it seems disconnected to you, so be it. I will continue to try to treat you as though you are an adult. As for MeredithB, just because you are (obviously) aged doesn't mean that you possess any true wisdom. People truly seeking wisdom know that the more you know, the more you realize that you don't know. The original problem stated by Mr. Boyyee was about improper policing. Police, like all other people in power, can be prone to abuse. If you saw them abusing their power, then you shouldn't be writing about it here. If you want to know why NYPD deploys their troops the way the do, get involved.
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Ishtar » Uhm... http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homicides/map
So to you the only crime that matters is homicide? I'd say you and mr. met should stop blaming the cops.Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches. -
Hey, I was reading up on SpotCrime.com and apparently its information is derived from local residents offering up information on a crime in the neighborhood. It is not based on police reports and actual crime activity. Perhaps more people in Manhattan are using this website, but that has little or no indication that SpotCrime is accurate. According to that website, there have only been 5 crimes in Central Brooklyn this past year. Doesn't that seem grossly inaccurate?
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This said cops at 7-11. I started reading to find out their are very few sightings of NY finest downing any Big Gulps and some of those yummy rolling burger weenies. If you think cops should do busy work, which I think they should you have to give them the tools. Example, when I was young and caught with a bag of weed with my silly friends the cop poured our pot in the sewer, called us a bunch of non thinking DB punks and gave us a free ride to our front doors and some hand and head shaking between cops and parents with the hope of making me a better citz. Cops can't do squat to clean up the streets without involving the court system. No taps on the head for non thinkers, one post in here has a woman tell the cops she won't ID a shooter in a murder case, different and crazy times. Subway clerks won't come out of the booth to help a rape victim. We should expect some public service from our public servants cops are bad but they are no worse than any of the other lazy cash collectors.
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They really need to learn how to brew a pot of coffee at that 7-11. They constantly pour from one half full pot into another half empty pot so they can start a new one. 30 minutes later, half of the new pot gets mixed in with half of the old pot and before you know you it....sludge.And that's the way it is.
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ParadeRest » They really need to learn how to brew a pot of coffee at that 7-11. They constantly pour from one half full pot into another half empty pot so they can start a new one. 30 minutes later, half of the new pot gets mixed in with half of the old pot and before you know you it....sludge.
...hope the Slurpees are better. They better not be saving all the good slurpee machines for the high rent districts!For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Since you mentioned it. They slurpees seem a little watery. I blame it all on Dick Cheney.And that's the way it is.
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