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    1. hiscrownheights
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      as the storm approaches I made this thread as a catch-all for how you are preparing for and fairing through the "perfect storm" coming our way! we're headed to target today to grab a few things - non hurricane related - because we still have an abundance of flashlights and sandbags from Irene lol.

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    2. lovechild
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      I'm getting a sense that people aren't taking this as serious as Irene. Maybe it's hurricane fatigue or something because last ended up being a dud for the city (not the surrounding area though).

    3. epiclylaterd
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      NYC schools closed tomorrow (Mon), MTA shutdown after 7pm today (Sun.)

    4. whynot_31
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      This thread is also active, just located in the PS section: http://brooklynian.com/forum/park-slope/here-i-am-rock-you-like-a-hurricane/page/4#post-760824

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    5. xlizellx
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      It blows my mind that city offices are open tomorrow. There's no subway, no school for kids, yet adults have to somehow get to their desk jobs? It seems really inappropriate to keep city offices open - unless their work is related to the emergency running of the city

    6. smokin joe
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      went to nsa for a few groceries (sorry, this is ph, but no sandy thread there) and it was packed and the shelves were emptying. no bread, for instance. later went to the met on vandy -- also long lines and people stocking up, and again, no bread. (ok, one unappealing cinnamon-raisin something, and a bunch of pocketless pitas, but not much else.)

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    7. bobmarvin
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      "There's no subway, no school for kids, yet adults have to somehow get to their desk jobs?"

      The Bloomberg administration is trying to force City employees who can't get to work to use their accrued leave time to save money.

    8. ntfool
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      Likely true, but also, it looks terrible for the Mayor's office to be closed, or at half staff, or whatever, during a time of emergency.

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    9. whynot_31
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      ^Exactly^

      Those with Tea Party leanings state things like "if they aren't essential now, why do we have them the rest of the year".

      Hence, it is in the interest of government that they show up, if only to play Angry Birds for the day.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    10. hiscrownheights
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      ah good explanation for these guys. i feel like it is important for us to see them (city officials) and be able to contact them in case of an emergency ... ESPECIALLY THIS.

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    11. inpixels
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      it blows my mind that city offices are open tomorrow.

      its just a sneaky way of saying you don't get and extra day off if you are a city employee (i.e. you would have to use a vacation day). They don't actually expect that nonessential/ non-emergency employees will show up.

      however, its worth noting that if you are a city employee you are "supposed" to live in the city and therefore more likely to live in walking distance of your job.

    12. xlizellx
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      inpixels said:

      it blows my mind that city offices are open tomorrow.

      its just a sneaky way of saying you don't get and extra day off if you are a city employee (i.e. you would have to use a vacation day). They don't actually expect that nonessential/ non-emergency employees will show up.

      however, its worth noting that if you are a city employee you are "supposed" to live in the city and therefore more likely to live in walking distance of your job.

      Walking distance? I'm unsure why they'd assume you could walk to your job...the 5 boroughs are rather large.

      We live in Brooklyn. Our jobs are in Manhattan. But because lower Manhattan is evacuated the offices are relocated to Queens. Meaning a 10 mile walk in a hurricane. Yet Bloomberg said not to go outside. Awesome.

      I get that they'll save money - but my husband is using 2 vacation days here. Meaning we won't be able to see my parents for Christmas. Awesome.

    13. smokin joe
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      optimum e-mail servers seem to be down. still have internet, just no e-mail.

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    14. armchair_warrior
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    15. kenieva
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      I read that some trees went down around the neighborhood. Anybody knows where? Everything is clear on Park Place and Franklin...

    16. kenieva
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      ok, four trees down on Lincoln Place between Franklin and Bedford and a few big trees down on Eastern Parkway between Franklin and Classon.

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      Two big trees and lots of branches down in Brower Park.

    18. I think most of the higher elevations were untouched, with exception of trees. I know there are a couple of down trees in my area too

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    19. epiclylaterd
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      There's free gas being given to the individuals who need it, up to 10 gallons, at the Brooklyn Armory 1579 Bedford Ave. Haven't seen what it looks like over there but just spreading the word for those in a bind.

    20. epiclylaterd
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      Update on this (12:15pm), as expected the line is stretching all the back to the armory on Bedford/Atlantic.

    21. kenieva
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      Right now the lines serpent through the back streets all the way to Wasington and Empire Blvd, and they aren't moving.

    22. whynot_31
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      Crowd Control
      BROOKLYN *CROWD CONTROL* STERLING PL / BEDFORD AVE (77-PCT) PD CALLING A LEVEL-1 MOBILIZATION TO THE SCENE IN REGARDS TO A LARGE CROWD AT THE BP GAS STATION * 11:25:48 (C) [MNS106]
      Sterling Pl Bedford Ave
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      11/3/2012 11:29 a.m.

      Source: Breaking News Network

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    23. whynot_31
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      After waiting 12 hours, they were told there was no gas:

      http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20121104/crown-heights/after-12-hour-wait-residents-turned-away-when-natl-guard-runs-out-of-gas

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    24. newguy88
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      Has anyone taken the subway lately? If so how is it running? Would I'd be better off biking into the village today?

    25. They were local early this morning but running OK.
      Huzzah! The D train runs into manhattan, but I am sure the service is SHITTY as I waited forever just to get from my nabe to good old Park Slope.

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    26. eastbloc
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      I'd place a wager that you're better off biking, now and for the next week or so.

    27. newguy88
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      Thanks Psycho-ologist! On your advice I biked it!

      Eastbloc, I'd bet money your probably right.

    28. homeowner
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      Got gas today at Bedford & Kosciosco. Waited for nearly four hours but was able to top off my tank just in case. According to weather reports, a nor'easter is going to hit us on Wednesday. Time to restock and re-supply.

    29. inpixels
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    30. xlizellx
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      inpixels said:
      @xlizellx

      Mayor Bloomberg Needs to Apologize to City Employees
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jack-cahn/mayor-bloomberg-to-city-employees_b_2067444.html

      Amazing! Took the words right out of my (and so many other people's) mouth(s)

    31. inpixels
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      @xlizellx there may (or may not) have been an economic incentive to have declared "business as usual" work days for city employees during the hurricane. If workers were told to stay home.... then the city would not be able to be reimbursed by the Feds for those employees.

      no one expected city workers to actually show up to work, and ultimately if you didn't you may just get an extra day because of a F EMA reimbursement.

    32. newguy88
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      I'm actually glad Bloomberg had the city workers come in. This is the kinda of emergency that the city should be 100% staffed and ready for. Yeah it was hard on them, I'm not denying that but as a city worker the city's needs come before your own.

    33. whynot_31
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      “Sandy’s Aftermath: How Much Federal Aid Can the City Expect?” http://ow.ly/f7YzM

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      NYC Independent Budget Office
      110 William Street, New York, NY 10038

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    34. inpixels
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      @newguy88 you're missing the key point here:
      Bloomberg asked employees to come in but had no real expectation that they would show up. How was it hard on them? They didn't show up for work. He didn't actually expect them to show up and probably will get compensated by the feds because he asked them to show AND THEY DIDN'T.

      Had Bloomberg said to the employees to stay home then for certain the city would not be reimbursed by the Feds for those employees that were asked to stay home.

    35. xlizellx
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      newguy88 said:
      I'm actually glad Bloomberg had the city workers come in. This is the kinda of emergency that the city should be 100% staffed and ready for. Yeah it was hard on them, I'm not denying that but as a city worker the city's needs come before your own.

      Wait, seriously? You needed education coaches for (closed) public schools sitting in offices? You needed attorneys for commissions and groups sitting in offices when the people they spend their days working for/with are home safely? You needed secretaries for office buildings to not answer phones since no one was calling? I'm not talking about cops, fire fighters, EMTs, sanitation....I'm talking about the Taxi Commissioner, the DOE Network Leaders, the office manager for the Commission for the Arts... Those people came into work.

      Courts? Closed. Classrooms? Closed. But the workers who support such important places? Sitting in offices after a downright dangerous commute. Yup...makes sense....

    36. superclam
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      xlizellx: Well said. That's exactly what I was thinking, but you said it better than me.
      I took a job with the city. It's a job. The city pays me to do that job, not a general "city employee" job. Like any job, it has pros and cons. I took no vow or signed no contract that I would be out in a hurricane to serve the city, when I have no training or experience to do so.

    37. newguy88
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      xlizellx said:
      Wait, seriously? You needed education coaches for (closed) public schools sitting in offices? You needed attorneys for commissions and groups sitting in offices when the people they spend their days working for/with are home safely? You needed secretaries for office buildings to not answer phones since no one was calling? I'm not talking about cops, fire fighters, EMTs, sanitation....I'm talking about the Taxi Commissioner, the DOE Network Leaders, the office manager for the Commission for the Arts... Those people came into work.

      Courts? Closed. Classrooms? Closed. But the workers who support such important places? Sitting in offices after a downright dangerous commute. Yup...makes sense....

      I respectfully disagree.

    38. alana
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      Is there anyone who can confirm for me if the US mail service is working (as well as it ever did) again to areas in South Brooklyn who were hit by Sandy?

    39. inpixels
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      Hey @newguy88 , you should apply for a big wig position at the MTA...sounds like you would fit right in

      Dozens of MTA workers, stranded in Coney Avenue terminal, faced death as Hurricane Sandy waters rushed in Workers describe scenes of pure chaos — and incredible bravery — after Coney Island Creek overflowed and caused chest-high flooding

      "The water's getting high. We have to start getting out of here," the supervisor said.

      Landro, 51, said he was stunned to hear the response.

      "Stay there," the higher-up instructed. "Hold your post and secure your area."...

      They were rescued by two other transit workers navigating the waters in a raft...

      http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mta-workers-trapped-flood-sandy-article-1.1200933?pgno=1#ixzz2C9A4c5Zo

    40. inpixels
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      No, its not like things could have been dangerous

      Called to Work During Superstorm Sandy, Tribeca Parking Attendant Drowned - “I said, what on earth are you doing here? And he said, I was called in to come.”
      http://www.thenation.com/article/171228/called-work-during-super-storm-sandy-tribeca-parking-attendant-drowned

      Or the government actually knew what they were/are doing

      OccupySandy feeds FEMA workers: Government incompetence at its peek http://rt.com/usa/news/fema-workers-occupy-sandy-720/

      business as usual, now go to work civil servants!

    41. whynot_31
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      xlizellx said:
      Wait, seriously? You needed education coaches for (closed) public schools sitting in offices? You needed attorneys for commissions and groups sitting in offices when the people they spend their days working for/with are home safely? You needed secretaries for office buildings to not answer phones since no one was calling? I'm not talking about cops, fire fighters, EMTs, sanitation....I'm talking about the Taxi Commissioner, the DOE Network Leaders, the office manager for the Commission for the Arts... Those people came into work.

      Courts? Closed. Classrooms? Closed. But the workers who support such important places? Sitting in offices after a downright dangerous commute. Yup...makes sense....

      The city has been fighting unions over whether city workers who did not show up during the 2010 blizzard can be docked pay or personal time.

      The city won.

      As the article points out, this may set precedence for the city winning a similar case brought against it by employees who did not show up (I.E. arrive at a check-in center) during Sandy.

      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/no_how_blow_to_workers_9ba9rKSfRhHiNn1npLjNcN

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

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