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I saw two white women on my block this morning as I left my apartment. One pushing a stroller, the other walking a dog. Amazing!
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Subject: Re: I see white people
Alex » I saw two white women on my block this morning as I left my apartment. One pushing a stroller, the other walking a dog. Amazing!
Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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What block is that?
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Hal » What block is that?
Lincoln/Nostrand -
White people on Nostrand?? Thats unpossible!Brooklyn, bitch! I will cutchyou!
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dan.h » White people on Nostrand?? Thats unpossible!
lol i love that word unpossible i use it on my friends all the time :p.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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There are at least three white couples living on my block.
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We've got two couples that own plus three or four renters. Park between Nostrand and NY. Actually, one of my friends has hypothisised that you'll know the neighborhood is changing not when you see white people, but when you see Asian couples. I've seen two Asian women on Nostrand, one with her child, but no couples yet.
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Subject: Jack Krohn
Last week, while riding the bus down Brooklyn Avenue last Friday, I saw two white twenty-something women get off at Brooklyn and St. John's. I also saw an Asian woman on Park Place near Brooklyn Avenue and a white woman with a young child in Brower Park. -
so, im a white guy and i live on lincoln at nostrand too....And i know of a bunch more in the area...is this really a new revelation...and is it really worth starting a thread about it?
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Nebula, This is all in good fun. Don't take it too seriously.
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this thread is kind of f-d.
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vanilla » this thread is kind of f-d.
No, it's not. -
yay for the white guys whiting out the area :p. all in good jest.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure). -
Back In The Day » We've got two couples that own plus three or four renters. Park between Nostrand and NY. Actually, one of my friends has hypothisised that you'll know the neighborhood is changing not when you see white people, but when you see Asian couples. I've seen two Asian women on Nostrand, one with her child, but no couples yet.
The few times I've walked down Nostrand I've seen Japanese girls ambling along. -
And we see you
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stacey » And we see you
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i see you all Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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Subject: What is the point ?
what exactly is the point of this thread? Who's reporting they see white people? white people are reporting? or others reporting? -
i think white people are reporting :p seeing other white folks hehe.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure). -
armchair_warrior » i think white people are reporting :p seeing other white folks hehe.
This cracker is spying on us -
Alex » [quote="armchair_warrior"]i think white people are reporting :p seeing other white folks hehe.
This cracker is spying on us[/quote] *looks around where the white person at ;).Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure). -
Jack Krohn » Nebula, This is all in good fun. Don't take it too seriously.
Ok, i guess its fun to "report" about other white people in a city...Does it make you guys feel better knowing other whites are moving in, and making the neighborhood better, or more to your liking...this is a pointless, stupid thread, and it makes an issue out of race, even if it is light-hearted..the fact that someone saw a few white people outside on the streets of Brooklyn and felt the need to talk about it in a forum means they obviously think a lot about this...kinda sad...making progress in relations requires a certain amount of color-blindness and just seeing people as neighbors, not this asian, or this white mom, etc... -
Nebula78 » [quote="Jack Krohn"]Nebula, This is all in good fun. Don't take it too seriously.
...making progress in relations requires a certain amount of color-blindness and just seeing people as neighbors, not this asian, or this white mom, etc...[/quote] Actually Nebula I disagree - I happen to think that being able to joke about it helps race/neighbor relations. The atmosphere in this neighborhood has been old tenants vs. new tenants, old guard v. new guard, being able to joke about it helps lighten the tension. I think we are getting way too politically correct and getting to serious with ourselves. For example - Alex and I have quite a few differences of opinion when it comes to certain things - but being able to joke about a separate idea will make me think twice before I condemn any of his opinions. -
Jose » [quote="Back In The Day"]We've got two couples that own plus three or four renters. Park between Nostrand and NY. Actually, one of my friends has hypothisised that you'll know the neighborhood is changing not when you see white people, but when you see Asian couples. I've seen two Asian women on Nostrand, one with her child, but no couples yet.
The few times I've walked down Nostrand I've seen Japanese girls ambling along.[/quote] You can't have an invasion with out asian. (joke) -
I've also been seeing fewer rotweilers and pit bulls and more tiny, cute, fuzzy dogs...not to be biased against any one dog breed "The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time."
--- Richard Nixon -
What's great is that we can all have an opinion that feels right for us. just don't push it on others and we can all get along. to be politically correct consciously is an act of denial, we are different and should embrace that. our environments/experiences teach us to want and value different things and seldom the twain shall meet... change is necessary, good for some and bad for others - but as Earth Wind and Fire says. "That's The Way of The World"
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I've lived here since I was born (in 1983) and white people moving in is something to talk about because (a) they weren't here until 10 years ago (b) lots of my friends don't live here anymore - they can't afford to, because white people keep moving in and jacking up the rent.
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Subject: crackers
listen, seeing white people is one thing, but make sure they don't come in with any knitting stores or organic co-ops. because then it's park slope all over again and that shit ain't right. -
Anonymous » (b) lots of my friends don't live here anymore - they can't afford to, because white people keep moving in and jacking up the rent.
Hmm, I don't live in Crown Heights anymore, but one of the attractions of that area to the young people who move there is affordability - CH is cheaper than Park Slope, than Prospect Heights, certainly more than Manhattan. The trend in NYC in general is higher and higher rents, which pushes people moving out own their own for the first time further and further from Manhattan. In a decade or so, I imagine we'll be complaining about how gentrified Sheepshead Bay has become. I mean I realize IHBT and all, but whatever.--mggp -
I don't think it's fair to label Nebula as just P.C. for the sake of being P.C. She's got a point. This is a stupid thread. Who's shutting down discourse? Nebula who thinks this thread is stupid and expresses that? Or the rest of you who jump on her, dropping the P.C. bomb? I can accept that a few of you might just be posting about white people to say, "Huh, isn't that interesting, white people this far east!" But you would be lying to yourself a little bit (at least some of you) if you didn't admit that part of you is thinking, "White people? Great! The kind of shops we like can't be far behind." Your issue may not be race; it may be class. But you are thinking that once white people come the money and stores can't be far behind. And thinking like that is race-based. I don't mean to admonish anyone. I'm the first to admit I find myself thinking that way too sometimes, but when I do, I feel pretty down about it. I try not to revel in it. Maybe a few of you were just saying, "Hey, you don't see that everyday." Maybe I'm projecting some of my own issues. But I think Nebula had a valid point and wasn't just spouting P.C. nonsense.
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Subject: funnny
I lived on Union betw. Nostrand and New York from 2003 until recently. People would consider me Asian. While there, black people responded to me with "Oh, do you have a store?" when I told them I lived in Crown Heights. As if that was the only reason I'd be in the neighborhood. I wasn't offended. I thought it was pretty funny. -
"...white people keep moving in and jacking up the rent." White people don't jack up rents, landlords (who are of all stripes) do. Place blame where blame is due.
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Guest » I don't think it's fair to label Nebula as just P.C. for the sake of being P.C. She's got a point. This is a stupid thread. Who's shutting down discourse? Nebula who thinks this thread is stupid and expresses that? Or the rest of you who jump on her, dropping the P.C. bomb? I can accept that a few of you might just be posting about white people to say, "Huh, isn't that interesting, white people this far east!" But you would be lying to yourself a little bit (at least some of you) if you didn't admit that part of you is thinking, "White people? Great! The kind of shops we like can't be far behind." Your issue may not be race; it may be class. But you are thinking that once white people come the money and stores can't be far behind. And thinking like that is race-based. I don't mean to admonish anyone. I'm the first to admit I find myself thinking that way too sometimes, but when I do, I feel pretty down about it. I try not to revel in it. Maybe a few of you were just saying, "Hey, you don't see that everyday." Maybe I'm projecting some of my own issues. But I think Nebula had a valid point and wasn't just spouting P.C. nonsense.
I never labled Nebula or dropped a PC bomb on her. I made a general statement about how we, all people as a whole, have become too politically correct. I was merely stating my opinion as Nubula stated his/hers. -
And we made Gawker yet again: • We always thought an influx of gays was what signaled true gentrification. To some, though, the signifier is apparently whitey. To each his own stereotype, we guess. [The Daily Heights]
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Funny you mention that. Theres seems to be a disproportionate number of gay couples living in the Jewish hospital.Brooklyn, bitch! I will cutchyou!
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dan.h » Funny you mention that. Theres seems to be a disproportionate number of gay couples living in the Jewish hospital.
any of the gay folks single and female or are they all couples? i could make many an excuse to walk past the jewish hospital...
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look for me: i'm the new white gay guy in the hood!
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bornslippy » look for me: i'm the new white gay guy in the hood!
*looks for white guy. hehe you be easy to spot ;), like looking for water in a ocean :).Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure). -
I'm white. I live here. I love it here. I just ate doubles for lunch. I'm hoping for a bagel store to open one day. That's not because I'm white and want the neighborhood to change, but because I love eating fresh, hot bagels on a weekend morning. Also, a video store would be nice. Does this make me racist, or just a happy neighbor who wants to support local businesses instead of joining Netflix?
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Hi cowgirly ... walk up nostrand, there is a bagel shop on the other side of eastern parkway. Not the best bagels but they're edible.
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Hey Alex, thanks! I do like that cafe, but you know what I mean.... a shop that bakes 'em fresh, when you order they're still hot in the basket... until then the cafe will do just fine!
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Subject: white folks in crown heights
this is so sad. no white people don't drive up rent prices, land lords do, but white people -or any people- who come to a community without any regard to who is already there suck too.(think Columbus) -
Subject: Re: white folks in crown heights
guest » this is so sad. no white people don't drive up rent prices, land lords do, but white people -or any people- who come to a community without any regard to who is already there suck too.(think Columbus)
What do you mean by 'without any regard'? And what would you propose?...not that there's anything wrong with that. -
landlords don't drive up prices, the market does. This is basic supply and demand.
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Subject: Re: white folks in crown heights
guest » this is so sad. no white people don't drive up rent prices, land lords do, but white people -or any people- who come to a community without any regard to who is already there suck too.(think Columbus)
landlords dont drive up prices. its what people are willing to pay for rent for a certain area.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure). -
i feel for the folks who talk about how their childhood friends have been forced out of theneighborhood by rising prices... but isn't that how things work? i can't afford to live where i grew up either - my family moved to park slope in the 60's. don't we all have mixed feelings (at best) about what's happened to the neighborhoods where we grew up?
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I too feel for some people who have been forced out due to increased rents and changing communities, however, I always encouraged and "begged" folks to buy when prices were much cheaper in the 90's. I grew up in Crown Heights North and my family had the foresight to buy investment property in the 70's during the time of wide spread abandonment. Yeah... I see beige, brown, bronze, chocolate, vanilla, cream and mocca hued folks too
So much for I see white folks.
Hey, anyone interested in a lovely garden apartment in a brownstone undergoing restoration? -
Subject: vacancy
Niecie » Hey, anyone interested in a lovely garden apartment in a brownstone undergoing restoration?
i am if it comes with access to the garden... details and asking rent please. -mike i'm a gay puerto rican, greek/sicilian jew! -
Pretty much white mom with stroller & Native American gene pool along and European husband, so what does that make us? We moved to the area recently and were the first crackers on the block and all the home-owning neighbors have been very welcoming but also we've experienced teenagers calling to their friends "HEY!! come look at this! check this out! What are they doing here, when I was walking down the street with the baby & my grandmother. We've experienced some harassment from teenagers making rude remarks but teenagers are like that. I think it is more then white folks moving in, it homeowners who intend to live in their their properties and maintain the upkeep that increases the property values and the quality of life in the neighborhoods regardless of skin color. The rents are very affordable in this area and the homes are on the verge of affordable. We were forced out of Williamsburg due to rising costs and the yuppie invasion after the same happening in the East Village. This is a great area for families and one of the few places left in NYC, where a middle income family can afford property. We could never afford to buy and worked like dogs to save for a down payment I confess white folks spotting along with Asian Spotting as well as anyone with a small child or people playing music outdoors.
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