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I recently came across the Crownheights Blog thecrownheightser.blogspot.com. This blog seems to indicate that the nabe is one of the best in Brownstone Brooklyn. For you other Heightsers out there, how would you compare Crown Heights With Park Slope and the other Brownstone Nabes?Would you say its equal or better the the Slope or Prospect Heights?
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Subject: Yes
Architectually speaking Crown heights is more diverse and nicer then some of its rival hip neighborhoods. -
Subject: Its coming
Interesting question Heightser: Fist of all "nicer" is not a fair question when it comes to neighborhoods. As to comparing Crown Heights to other neighborhoods, I think its a matter of time till crown Heights evolves, I mean we dont even have a decent coffee lounge here. -
We do have a decent coffee shop.... It's called Saje and it's on Franklin... There is soon to be another on Eastern Parkway and Nostrand... As far as comparing the two neighborhoods, we love Crown Heights but they are very different animans.... you need to visit the two and decide for yourself...
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Subject: Crown Heights Rules
I lived in Crown Heights all my life and I think that is(at least one of the if not) the nicest Neighborhood in Brooklyn. The array of Brownstones. The two Doctors Row (President St. and St Mark. Eastern Parkway -
I don't live in either. but if both places were cost the same. i'll pick park slope hands down!!! its like comparing a crack ho and a high class escort.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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Subject: Crown Heights is Very Diverse
armchair_warrior » I don't live in either. but if both places were cost the same. i'll pick park slope hands down!!! its like comparing a crack ho and a high class escort.
The architecture of Crown heights Trumps any other brooklyn nabe.... and if you knew anything about the history of Crown heights you wouldent call it a crack ho. Crown heights has some of the wealthiest landowners in the city in CrowSO (Crown Heights South) and many upper class black in CroNo (Crown heights North) -
Park Slope has a lower crime rate than Crown Heights (at least according to the precinct stats).
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Jack Krohn » Park Slope has a lower crime rate than Crown Heights (at least according to the precinct stats).
So if "nicer" is defined soley by crime rate, then there ya go, I suppose. The OP needs to clarify the question in order to better settle an "answer"."It's only as boring as you make it."
You're making me want to poke my eyes out with a spoon. Stop that.
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Subject: Re: Crown Heights is Very Diverse
Brooklyn Boy » [quote="armchair_warrior"]I don't live in either. but if both places were cost the same. i'll pick park slope hands down!!! its like comparing a crack ho and a high class escort.
The architecture of Crown heights Trumps any other brooklyn nabe.... and if you knew anything about the history of Crown heights you wouldent call it a crack ho. Crown heights has some of the wealthiest landowners in the city in CrowSO (Crown Heights South) and many upper class black in CroNo (Crown heights North)[/quote] not talking about history. only care about current state of things. park slope has more restaurants less crime. hell a former beauty queen can turn into a crack ho over time!Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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Subject: CROWN HEIGHTS IS A NICER NEIGHBORHOOD THEN PARK SLOPE!
Were taking architect: CROWN HEIGHTS IS A NICER NEIGHBORHOOD THEN PARK SLOPE! -
if you're talking about architecture bed stuy has it hands down as the best! I think the snobs there call it Stuyvesant Heights.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
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Are there any decent super markets in CH that don't feature anything but goya canned products and brown rotting fruit? At least in Park Slope, there were one or two decent key foods. More good restaurants in Park Slope as well, as least as of my last visit a couple of years ago."Tommorow's another god damn day"
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X-brooklynite » Are there any decent super markets in CH that don't feature anything but goya canned products and brown rotting fruit? At least in Park Slope, there were one or two decent key foods. More good restaurants in Park Slope as well, as least as of my last visit a couple of years ago.
I'm at St Johns and Nostrand, there is plenty of decent fruit and food. Even an organic place. Restaurants seem a bit limited, if you are looking for sit down and be served. Mostly take out."It's only as boring as you make it."
You're making me want to poke my eyes out with a spoon. Stop that.
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I think Park Slope's brownstones are better maintained and there's more focus on preservation.
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Crown Heights has a greater diversity in terms of the architectural types and periods than PS has. It also has something that is lacking in PS, a significant number of free standing (semi-detached or completely detached) homes. As Erikka points out, there has been a better effort to maintain buildings in PS, but the community continues to push for landmarking and preserving many of the gems in the area. CH also has a larger concentration of architecturally significant public structures (mostly churches). For those of you interested in architecture, the Crown Heights North Association is going to be doing some walking tours of the neighborhood. Don't take my word for it, come out and see the nabe for yourself.
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Key foods on Nostrand ( I think at Lincoln or a block or two more toward Atlantic ) is a good grocery story.. It's not a D'Agastino but it's better than the Mott Foods at Nostrand and St Johns, although that place is fine for hte basics and they now sell the yummy hummus they sell at Fairway!-The more I see of man, the more I like dogs
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Try FoodTown in Restoration Plaza. It's huge. And clean. I can say unequivocally, that while some block in Park Slope are nicer than some in Crown Heights, there is no doubt that some blocks in Crown Heights are nicer than some blocks in Park Slope. 'Nicer' is both vague and subjective. I'm in CH so I'm biased. But try this: Less crime: Park Slope Relative affordability: Crown Heights General Amenities: Park Slope Ease of Parking: Crown Heights Viking ranges: Park Slope Music scene: Crown Heights Sub-zero fridges: Park Slope Architectural quality: Crown Heights
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No. Crown Heights is not nicer than Park Slope, no how, no way.
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I'm with Hal, nicer is subjective. There are definitely some areas in which PS has us beat, but I'll put the housing stock against PS any day. Frankly, I'm glad to see folks giving props to our neighborhood. For those of y'all not aware of what some of the homes in CH look like, take a look at this.
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Hal-- as I am a CH novice (but moving into the neighborhood)... I wonder if you could point me towards a few places to get into the CH music scene you mention. where to go? what to hear? many thanks to anyone who can contribute to my local culturedness...
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Off the top of my head... Saje (Franklin @ Park Place)has bands on the weekends: TIGA plays Fridays at 7PM - hot 'world' music. Tavern on Nostrand (Nostrand near Union) has jazz trios on weekends. Secrets on Nostrand near Prospect has music too. I don't know the schedule. Cafe 400 on Nostrand @ Sterling has live music a few nights a week.
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Subject: Crown heights
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Hal » Off the top of my head... Saje (Franklin @ Park Place)has bands on the weekends: TIGA plays Fridays at 7PM - hot 'world' music. Tavern on Nostrand (Nostrand near Union) has jazz trios on weekends. Secrets on Nostrand near Prospect has music too. I don't know the schedule. Cafe 400 on Nostrand @ Sterling has live music a few nights a week.
Speaking of which I think Cafe 400 is closed. I was coming by a few nights ago and the doors were stickered with DOB notices saying that the building was ordered vacated. There were workmen inside tearing up the ground floor room. This morning there is a big sign outside saying that the Wednesday night show has been moved to another club. Anyone know anything more? -
If by "nicer" you mean very pleasant to walk around in and various amenities (including tons of different restaurants, bars (straight and otherwise) boutiques, coffee shops, quick commute to Manhattan, cleanliness and lower crime), then Park Slope really is better than Crown Heights. If you're talking about architecture, Crown Heights is prettier. I've lived in both. If I could afford Park Slope, I would be there now.
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I'd pick Crown Heights over Park Slope anyday, yes, even if the cost of living was the same. And architectually speaking, I know nothing about architecture, but yes, Bed-Stuy would win hands down. Everytime I am there, especially driving to Bushwick and I get to see alllllll of Bed-stuy, I am always thinking god damn, it is beautiful around here. Some parts of CH I actually don't like the architecture. But I love the hood regardless. I don't need a thousand resturants, I cook my meals myself, and I don't need a thousand trinket stores. Also, about Saje: the Mimetiks play every sunday (or every other?) from around 12-4, while brunch is going on. They also play every Tuesday. And damn, those guys are fuckin GOOD. Definitely recommend checking them out. I don't know how to describe them.. soul, r&b maybe? anyone else heard 'em? they do covers like 'blackbird' and 'hallelujah' but they put a soft soulful kinda spin on everything.
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thanks for the suggestions on music, to those who answered... look forward to checking some of these places out! (once I unpack...)
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My Crown Heights block is quiet. In fact, my impression is that Park Slope is busy. Please don't misunderstand though. I like Park Slope. However, I think a lot of people make judgements about Crown Heights without intimate experience. Too bad for them. Great for us. The longer CH goes 'undiscovered', the better.
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I like walking around Crown Heights and actually have people nod and say hello or good morning.
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same here
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rickyrae » I like walking around Crown Heights and actually have people nod and say hello or good morning.
that happens in the Slope too ya know- that kind of thing depends on who you are more than what nabe you're in -
rickyrae » I like walking around Crown Heights and actually have people nod and say hello or good morning.
It's always good to make eye contact and say something nice. Better safe than sorry. -
I wish my block were a lot nicer and less noisy. I mean, would it kill the building owners to get some trees? Other than that, I dig Crown Heights! Especially since I am single and childless. I'd feel like a freak if I lived in Park Slope.
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i love sub zeroI am an identity thief.
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what do you recommend to eat at saje? I've been once and was not impressed. Is Saje CH or PH anyway?
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Not to be a wise guy, but I'm thinking the people from the Slope wouldn't even entertain this? CH has great streets and buildings and folks, the roti is also some of the best on the planet!
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gormand » what do you recommend to eat at saje? I've been once and was not impressed. Is Saje CH or PH anyway?
1. jerk eel. not only does it sound dirty, it's also delicious! 2. CH, unless you're a broker.Bumping ancient threads with bot-like bullshit -
2. CH, unless you're a broker. ...or Jack Krohn, who's not a broker (but many other things). [Insert joke here]
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daver » [quote="X-brooklynite"]Are there any decent super markets in CH that don't feature anything but goya canned products and brown rotting fruit? At least in Park Slope, there were one or two decent key foods. More good restaurants in Park Slope as well, as least as of my last visit a couple of years ago.
I'm at St Johns and Nostrand, there is plenty of decent fruit and food. Even an organic place. Restaurants seem a bit limited, if you are looking for sit down and be served. Mostly take out.[/quote] The Associated on Nostrand and Empire is not bad at all. It's clean and has a great selection of food and offers organic produce. About two stores down from that is an amazing organic vegan store. The mom and pop fruit and vegetable place on Nostrand between Union and E. Parkway has a very good selection of products from the Caribbean and Asia as well as a great assortment of fruits and vegetables. There's another one on the other side of the Parkway, Nostrand (can't remember the cross street, think it's Lincoln), and they have a good variety as well. -
gormand » what do you recommend to eat at saje? I've been once and was not impressed. Is Saje CH or PH anyway?
just curious, what were you not impressed with? mmm... the paninis are good, my favorite is the mozzerella. i haven't really had dinner there, so i can't reccomend anything specific. but brunch on saturdays & sundays, the french toast is amazing, as are the pancakes, omlettes are really good as well. and it's CH. also, if they ever have plaintain dumpling soup when you are there, have that. -
The place looks great, but the service is terrible and the table next to ours remained dirty the entire time we were there. The place looks great to be a wi fi hot spot and a coffee spot. It improves Franklin ave's curb appeal for sure.
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Hands down CH rules over park slope
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heightster, STOP spamming the board with ads for your blog. I deleted your ad posts. Also, we do know the first 3 posts in this thread are yours. If your blog is all-that, then prove it... spend less time spamming, and more time letting us know what's going on in CH! ... END ...Brooklynian on Twitter: http://twitter.com/brooklynian
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Clinton Hill wins but Park slope by the park (8th and 7th ave) is better than Crown Heights but past 6th ave its not nearly as nice.
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clinton hill sucks vs ph :P. and sure got nothing compare to ps.Fight white guilt and injustice by smoking tax free guilt free Reservation Smokes or go gamble in a Native Casino.
I like to stick it to The Man, The Man happens to be Liberal in NYC(power Structure).
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