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    1. epiclylaterd
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      Via ILFA: http://ilovefranklinave.blogspot.com/2012/04/sandwich-shop-for-franklin.html?m=1

      What I understand from the post is that About Time will become solely an online retailer and a sandwich shop is taking its place

    2. whynot_31
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      Not too long ago, Kevin (the owner of About Time) and I talked about how something like Syd's Sandwiches (located on Nostrand in CH) or City Sub (located on Bergen in PS) would do well on Franklin.

      Such places are a ton of work, but he seems to have the drive.

      ....those of us who don't merely need an appetite, and around $8.

      I suspect many of us will do our part.

      On the way: new Indian place, the Bollywood Bar, a slice pizza place, and The Hummus Station.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    3. whynot_31
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      That should actually read: "those of us who dont have such a drive, merely need $8 and an appetite"

      BTW, Kevin states he is planning to serve both hot and cold sandwiches....perhaps chili in the winter.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    4. samuelcole
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      I will eat 100s of these sandwiches.

    5. xlizellx
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      I read this post right after hiking to Bierkraft for a sandwich..... Excited!

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    7. whynot_31
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      Word has it it will open in Mid June, about the same time as the new Indian restaurant will open on the nearby corner.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    8. whynot_31
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      Friday, June 15th, is the date of the Grand Opening.

      It will likely be open off and on this week, in order to do some trial runs.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    9. whynot_31
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      Bump

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    10. epiclylaterd
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      I have it on good authority that Kevin will be serving PRE-MADE (i.e., not fresh) sandwiches. Which is too bad. Seems like a lost opportunity. If all his first-run customers needle him a bit, perhaps he will renege and not be so cost-conscious.

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    12. epiclylaterd
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      Excitement fizzling out a little bit after that comment!

    13. booklaw
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      Pret a manger sandwiches are also pre-made, and they are both fresh and yummy.

      I don't think "pre-made" and "fresh" are necessarily mutually exclusive... I suppose it depends whether the sandwiches were made a few hours earlier or a few days earlier.

    14. whynot_31
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      If they are pre-made, they have a chance of being good.

      But I don't need to take chances with my sandwiches; City Sub on Bergen St in the Slope is excellent and real competition.

      If I go there and see pre-made sandwiches, I will think to myself "I am not in a hurry" and walk west to the Bagel shop on Vanderbilt, Bergen bagels, or (nirvana): City Sub.

      Syds on Nostrand also should get a mention: They rule the steak and cheese market.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    15. epiclylaterd
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      City Sub is definitely the competition. I'll go out of my way to go there. I think I was hoping tastebuds would be along the same lines. Have to see for myself I guess. Bella Greens has had pre made sandwiches as well and their stuff is pretty good

    16. urbanexplorer
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      Taste Buds is open, anyone have a review?

    17. whynot_31
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      Sure. I just stopped by there for dinner.

      Contrary to the word NTFool received, all of the sandwiches are freshly made to order. One has a choice of various breads, meats, veggies, cheeses, etc.

      I had a turkey sandwich, chips and a fancy soda (ie not made by Pepsi or Coke).

      Bill was around $11, about what I would pay at Dutchboy for a burger and soda.

      Tastebuds is probably better for me.

      I'll be back.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    18. ntfool
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      Hey, look at that! I will make the extremely rare statement that I'm quite please to be wrong about this. I will let the source of my info know that he sucks.

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    19. clayfilms
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      whynot_31 said:
      Sure. I just stopped by there for dinner.

      Contrary to the word NTFool received, all of the sandwiches are freshly made to order. One has a choice of various breads, meats, veggies, cheeses, etc.

      I had a turkey sandwich, chips and a fancy soda (ie not made by Pepsi or Coke).

      Bill was around $11, about what I would pay at Dutchboy for a burger and soda.

      Tastebuds is probably better for me.

      I'll be back.

      how's the bread?

    20. whynot_31
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      lots of choices in the bread. The bread is fresher than a grocery store's, but not as good as fresh baked.

      This is not a hero/sub place.

      ...big guys looking to become even larger will continue to go to City Sub.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    21. mr. met
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      went there and got a ham and gruyere sandwich on wheat bread for 9.75. it was good...but 9.75 for a sandwich on wheat bread? i think i need a bigger sandwich for that price. i'd probably go there every day if the sandwiches were bigger.

    22. clayfilms
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      mr. met said:
      went there and got a ham and gruyere sandwich on wheat bread for 9.75. it was good...but 9.75 for a sandwich on wheat bread? i think i need a bigger sandwich for that price. i'd probably go there every day if the sandwiches were bigger.

      $9.75? You can get a grilled veggie and goat cheese w/ side salad sandwich for cheaper than that in soho.

      i'll stick to syds.

    23. epiclylaterd
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      If it's $9.75 for just the sandwich (no drink, no chips) then I think they're way over estimating what people are willing to pay regularly for a sandwich here. Maybe one day soon, people along Franklin will wanna dish out $9.75, but I don't think it's now. Agreed, definitely cheaper sandwiches in other places that aren't that far. Still will have to check it out soon though.

    24. whynot_31
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      http://mobile.newyork.seriouseats.com/2012/07/a-sandwich-a-day-blt-at-tastebuds.html

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      I went the week it opened, and the wife went last weekend before the 4th. both times-- long (like 20mins +) waits with almostno line, small sandwich, stale baguettes. Not what i'd expect for just shy of $10. I'll give it another shot in a couple of weeks but if that's not good, i can't forsee going back.

    26. xlizellx
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      Sounds like Bella Greens, across the street...

    27. eastbloc
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      It wasn't a bad sandwich, but it will be an infrequent choice for us unless the bread gets better. That's the most important part of a sandwich like theirs, and it was neither fresh nor particularly tasty.

      The other ingredients were all good, but without the bread to tie it all together it just doesn't leave you with a craving to do it again.

    28. whynot_31
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      Everyone seems to agree, Tastebuds is presently falling short of the established neighborhood favorites (i.e. the A List): Syds on Nostrand, and City Sub on Bergen.

      Which brings us to the B list. My next two favorites are Ye Old Bagel Shop on Vanderbilt, and Bergen Bagels on Bergen.

      Of course, I factor several things into my choices: proximity, price, good air conditioning, size, etc.

      From my apt, Tastebuds (on Franklin) and Ye Old Bagel shop (on Vanderbilt) are about equally far away, equally good, and about the same price. Ye Old bagel Shop is larger, and has more drink selections.

      As a result, I can't say that Tastebuds has added to my lunch choices, and suspect I will only eat there when already on Franklin.

      Unlike the A List, Tastebuds is not a "destination" I will walk to when in the mood, because of (as of yet) they have nothing I CRAVE.

      Note: Numerous bodega type stores also compete in the B list category, but I do not discuss them because they lack seating.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    29. eastbloc
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      Well, they did just get started. There's a lot of potential there. Maybe they'll hit their stride.

    30. whynot_31
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      Yes, but until then, I will eat there only when on already Franklin.

      Needless to say, lots of people are already on Franklin ....as a result, they may do well despite not being a "destination" .

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      They seem to have worked some of the bugs and now serve breakfast sandwiches, in addition to lunch.

      IMO, he should do a better job of defining what food is NOT served (low quality meats, cheeses and breads) so people will known he has high end products and service.

      As I walk by, it seems like word is getting out. He recently created this image for marketing breakfast:

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    32. homeowner
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      BTW, is CitySub still open? I've gone by a couple of times in the last month on the weekends and its been shuttered. MY SO said that it was also closed one weekday during the holiday week.

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      Walked by yesterday at 9:30 am, saw the picture above of the biscuit sandwich on the door. Too bad they were closed.

    34. the invisible lines
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      I noticed the same. Odd choice to advertise breakfast sandwiches on your front window and not be open for breakfast . . .

    35. whynot_31
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      Invisibile-
      Are hours posted?

      Homeowner-
      I haven't heard about City Sub closing. It has a lot of fans, and I suspect I would have heard. Maybe it was just closed for vacation?

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    36. whynot_31
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      Tastebud's biscuits got a mention here:

      http://brooklynbased.net/email/2013/01/five-meals-for-5-or-less/

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    37. whynot_31
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      This upcoming event leads me to believe he is trying to position his store as being a better quality, fancier, "healthier", option than a lot of businesses in the area.

      He also seems to be catering to the folks who are into the "farm to table" thing:

      press release » TasteBuds Announces a Tasting Event Hosted by Farmer & Founder of Niman Ranch Pork, Paul Willis

      Paul Willis will greet customers of Brooklyn’s hottest sandwich shop, share stories, and some new Niman Ranch products. Everyone is welcome!

      TasteBuds.
      President’s Day Event
      12 noon to 3:00 PM
      Monday, February 18, 2013

      736A Sterling Place
      Brooklyn, NY 11238

      BROOKLYN, N.Y. February 18, 2013. Dedicated to using only the highest quality ingredients in their signature sandwiches, TasteBuds opened its doors in June of 2012 with an array of Niman Ranch products, including Jamon Royale Applewood Smoked Ham, Applewood Smoked Bacon, and their peerless all-beef Fearless Franks—all becoming instant hits with customers.

      Behind these excellent products is an excellent farmer who raises hogs to exacting standards of humane, antibiotic-free animal husbandry. Paul Willis developed those standards on his own farm in rural Iowa (where he still raises pigs on pasture today) and with them founded Niman Ranch Pork, a network of small independent family farms raising hogs—sustainably & naturally--under the Niman banner.

      TasteBuds is honored to have an extraordinary farmer visit our extraordinary Crown Heights neighborhood to host TasteBuds and Niman Ranch President’s Day Tasting Event. Everyone is welcome!

      TasteBuds Sandwich Shop is located in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, 736A Franklin Ave. (Between Sterling Pl. and Park Pl.) Open 7 days a week, 8 am to 5 pm, Monday through Friday; 10 am – 6 pm, Saturday; 11 am – 6 pm Sunday, serving hot homemade biscuits, farm-fresh eggs, sandwiches, sides, and breakfast all day.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    38. ilovefranklinave
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      A nice write-up and slideshow from DNA Info. While I did not make it into the slideshow, my (much better looking) sandwich did.

      http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130218/crown-heights/crown-heights-taste-buds-serves-prime-cuts-for-presidents-day

    39. whynot_31
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      For his business plan to work, he really needs to get the message out to those who are into the "Farm to Table" thing, yet are not vegetarian.

      While there are a lot of Farm To Table places around, they make most of their money off of dinner and alcohol. At present, this place isn't open for dinner, and isn't serving fare people identify with dinner. As a result, he is trying to attract people for breakfast and lunch. These are meals that:

      - are more often eaten alone (low return)
      - do not feature high priced entrees (low return)
      - don't really lend themselves to high profit drinking. (low return)
      - are often eaten near work. Many of us work in Manhattan. (limited market)

      A very tough niche market.

      As stated above, his low volume store means that he is going to have to find a very committed base.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    40. mr. met
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      plus the food is overpriced and not that good...


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