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      HouseBroken

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      Our street is still not plowed (Lincoln Place bt Nostrand and NY)- it was not plowed at the begining of the storm, during the storm or since the storm ended. Is there anyone we can complain to? Perhaps they forgot!

      People in the block have even started to shovel the street in case of an emergency. I have been all over Brooklyn today and have not seen it this bad. There are also no cars blocking the street so that excuse does not work for our block.

    2. whyfi
      WhyFi

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      Here's an email that I just received...

      Brad » Dear Neighbors,
      I know it's been an extremely frustrating few days for many of you. My staff has been hard at work, trying to help the scores of people who have contacted my office while I’ve been on my way back from out of town.

      From the many of you who have e-mailed or called, I know that the snow (and car and bus) removal seems to be taking much longer than usual. We are still following up with the Department of Sanitation to address some of the major streets in the district (including Henry Street, Prospect Park West, McDonald Ave, and Cortelyou Road in Kensington) and have passed many of your requests about other streets on to them as well.

      Unfortunately, we now hear that it may not be until the end of Wednesday before some streets in our neighborhood are plowed, even for the first time. (FYI-- alternate side parking remains suspended for Wednesday).

      If your street hasn't been plowed or if there is a sidewalk that needs attention, my office has set up an online form at http://www.bradlander.com/snow. You can also e-mail us at lander@council.nyc.gov, or call us at (718) 499-1090.

      You should try 311 first, but I know they have been overwhelmed, and slow to respond. I know that one more web-form is NOT what you need if you’re still stuck on your street – but we will do our best to follow up to requests submitted at http://www.bradlander.com/snow. Of course, if there is an emergency, you should call 911.

      The City Council has set up a hearing to review the City’s response to this storm for January 10th at 1pm. We’ll be asking questions about what happened, why the response seems so inadequate in so many neighborhoods across the city, and what needs to be done for the future. I’ll be eager to hear your stories – however frustrating – as we prepare for that hearing.

      In the meantime, good luck. And thanks so much to all of you who have helped your neighbors get through the storm and dig out afterwards!

      --Brad

      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.
    3. mha
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      There is a plow truck stuck at the corner of St. John's and Franklin Avenue. It sits there diagonally at the corner, and to add mirth to injury, someone built a sizable snowman right in front of the plow. Passersby are snapping pictures of it. It has coffee lids for eyes, a hat, and a carrot nose; it's really something.

      Franklin Avenue has yet to be plowed. I'm quite surprised. I really thought by now that it would be done. Despite the inconvenience, I am going to give the City the benefit of the doubt and presume that circumstances of the storm were too demanding for a cash-strapped city.

      What really bothers me is the amount of snow I've consistently found at every train station I've used. The MTA can't shovel stairwells? There is so much snow around the stairwells. It's just a huge recipe for disaster. If I can watch the news and lay salt in preparation of the storm, what prevents the MTA from doing the same thing? It's insulting. At the Brooklyn Bridge train station - just phlegm distance from City hall, there is so much snow around the stairwell! Calling 311 for what should be a commonsense is crazy. Why must the citizenry kvetch about everything to get anything done? 311 is gradually becoming the equivalent of those traffic buttons that once actually turned green lights red for pedestrians.

    4. bobmarvin
      BobMarvin

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      A snow plow came down my block [Midwood, between Bedford & Rogers] at about 8 this morning, got stuck, backed out, and left a wall of snow blocking the street about 175' east of Bedford.

    5. clayfilms
      CLAYFILMS

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      Lincoln Place bet New York & Nostrand is still not plowed, however we did see a plow come down Union Street last (bet Nostrand and NY) last night

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      TeReKeTe

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      What really bothers me is the amount of snow I've consistently found at every train station I've used. The MTA can't shovel stairwells?

      it's really pretty stunning-- every year, every snowstorm, the buildings by the botanic garden shovel their sidewalks, but the MTA can't get it done in front of the entrance. What exactly do the station attendants who don't sell metrocards do?

    7. brooklynleather
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      Parts of Brooklyn Ave looked plowed as of this morning but Dean street just west of the intersection had a huge wall of plow snow preventing west bound traffic

    8. mha
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      If the MTA was a woman a buddy of mine was dating I would have told him eons ago, "She doesn't love you dude. Drop her, or replace her. She's gonna break your heart. Get rid of her before it's too late."

      I think the MTA's consistent lacking is a structural issue. They likely don't have a system in place that takes care of snow when it falls, because this always happens with them. Or if they do, it's not a very good one.

      I'm inclined to retract my earlier 'presumption of innocence' for the city given a jogging of my memory, and reading what others have to say about the failings of the city. Does anyone recall in days of yore when one would hear the clink-clink-clink of those sanitation truck's chained wheels laying down salt before big storms? Does anyone recall that happening in their neighborhood this year? I don't. I vacillate: maybe this is a symptom of the city's lack of money; maybe the lack of preparation, is because the city could not afford it.

      All I know is it sucks big time.

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      HouseBroken

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      Still no sign of a plow!!! I am beyond frustrated...

    10. clayfilms
      CLAYFILMS

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      Bloomberg just said in his new conference that the hope is that all of the streets in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island will be plowed by 7am tomorrow morning.

    11. catwalkertexasranger
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      mha wrote that there was a truck stuck at St.John @ Franklin. This is almost true..last night I walked past the truck...Today I watched the driver get in, raise and lower the plow w skill. He drove off wo putting any additional fuel in the vehicle..it was a show probably scripted by the sanataion union...and the asshole ran over the snowman that stood guard over his "nonoperational" truck.

    12. armchair_warrior
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      i suspect its the unions getting back at the city.

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    13. whynot_31
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      Perhaps the guy's shift ended, and he had already worked overtime.

      I can imagine a scenario in which someone's coworkers are all of and he is told to work 16 hours straight. At the end of his 16th hour, he is told to continue working.

      Instead of telling his boss to go to hell, he instead decides to claim his truck is stuck ....and then goes home and goes to bed.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    14. hiscrownheights
      HisCrownHeights

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      HouseBroken: the plow is on the block trying right now. my car is on the side being shoveled in but I know I can get some help.

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    15. bobmarvin
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      Midwood II is now plowed. While walking home from another productive morning @
      K-Dog about an hour ago I saw Midwood I being plowed. It was a very impressive
      operation consisting of a truck with a giant V-shaped blade, a regular snow
      plow, and another truck with a conventional snow plow blade. Hurray!! On top of
      that, my car, on the north side of Midwood II, happened to be next to a low spot
      in the wall of snow thrown up by the plow and I could actually get it out with
      NO digging --of course I put it right back; I'm not desperate; or crazy.

      Oh, also the bus at Bedford and Rutland has finally been removed. On top of
      that, I was able to buy a NY Times and K-Dog once again has bagels. Life is
      good!

    16. mha
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      One weird side consequence to all of this snow is that it had closed down the methadone clinic which resides behind the laundromat at the corner of Franklin and Park Place. I saw a few people make attempts to go there, but turn back because it wasn't open.

    17. mr. met
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      One weird side consequence to all of this snow is that it had closed down the methadone clinic which resides behind the laundromat at the corner of Franklin and Park Place. I saw a few people make attempts to go there, but turn back because it wasn't open.

      they probably robbed some electronics and sold it to Crow Hill Jewelry instead.

    18. mha
      MHA

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      Well, if they did, they would not be able to redeem it at Crow Hill Jewelry. That place had yet to shovel their walkway.

    19. homeowner
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      Yeah, the dialysis place on Sterling has been quiet because it was impossible to get through the block by car until this evening. I assume that their patients might have been part of the 1,300 911 calls that weren't answered.

    20. mha
      MHA

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      Isn't this heartbreaking?

      I assume somewhere the mayor has a map of the city, and on it are all of the hospitals, nursing homes, dialysis centers, methadone clinics, etc. And that in circumstances where inclement weather threatens to disrupt norms the city has plans to ensure that this will not happen, no?

      If they do, then they did not employ them. Major faux pas here.

    21. squindar
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      I assume somewhere the mayor has a map of the city, and on it are all of the hospitals, nursing homes, dialysis centers, methadone clinics, etc

      they have it, and you can too:
      http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/bytes/applbyte.shtml

      look for file "Selected Facilities and Program Sites"

      I've used sarcasm before. It makes me feel really smart.
    22. snowboardqueen
      SnowboardQueen

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      Dec. 2010 in NYC has been a very interesting winter to say the least.

      Wether it's an incompetent, arrogant mayor - a bloated pompous Sanitation Union - angry, rogue sanitation supervisers demanding their workers "to go slow" in retaliation to budget cuts and/or some entity not yet named.., I hope the truth comes out to what were the reasons behind this slow and deadly clean up.

      People should not have died because of political infighting and/or ineffecient planning on anyones part.

      R.I.P. every needless casualty to this non storm of 2010.

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    23. mr. met
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      Wether it's an incompetent, arrogant mayor - a bloated pompous Sanitation Union - angry, rogue sanitation supervisers demanding their workers "to go slow" in retaliation to budget cuts and/or some entity not yet named.., I hope the truth comes out to what were the reasons behind this slow and deadly clean up.

      don't know how arrogance fits in, but add:

      -large numbers of inexperienced workers
      -lack of planning and foresight at all levels
      -cars stuck in the middle of roads pretty much everywhere, so plows couldn't...plow
      -a pretty epic storm

      it was a combination of many factors. i personally don't buy into the widespread union conspiracy theory.

      non storm of 2010

      ?


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