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At some point I may be mature enough not to smirk at you writing "climax was in a prime location", but not yet.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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chloeroyale said:
No thrift shop please we have that rosebud operation on franklinTrue. But Rosebud only carries clothing and accessories, right? It'd be great to have a thrift or Goodwill-type shop that also carries housewares, books, board games, etc. Sometimes you just need an extra lamp or old t-shirts for the gym.
Also, the Goodwill on Fulton (bet. Franklin & Classon) is the closest we have for donating stuff--it'd be convenient to have one nearer to the Eastern Pkwy. end of things.
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whynot_31 said:
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At some point I may be mature enough not to smirk at you writing "climax was in a prime location", but not yet.HA! I knew I couldn't get one past you, whynot!
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As per an article published today:
Business owners say that rising commercial rent has played a roll in pushing out long-standing establishments, and even a few of the newer ones that tried to capitalize on the change.
For instance, Climax, a store selling urban clothing at 775 Franklin, is moving to Fulton Mall in Downtown Brooklyn, a popular shopping destination among minorities, which itself is undergoing a radical redevelopment.
“We’re not dead yet,” said Abraham, a twenty-seven-year-old employee, who like several people interviewed for this article preferred not to give his full name. But, he conceded, “business is down. Everything started changing.”
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http://narrative.ly/2013/01/the-ins-and-the-outs/
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Almost two months later, March 5, 2013:
The sign still says Under Renovation, but no carpentry equipment is evident. Likewise, there is no For Lease sign.
This makes me believe that Pulp&Bean again has the news, and that the new tenant will be chosen from a very short list.
Starbucks, are you reading? This corner could be high enough traffic for you. You could kill many of the coffee shops on my coffee shop deathwatch thread in one, quick swoop.
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Hello. Whynot it seems as if coffee shop closings seems somewhat amusing for you and other posters on this site. Do you know that people put lots of hard work, time, and money into these businesses? It seems that the desire to have Starbucks to open has consumed you. Do you not think 5 coffee shops is not enough to choose from? Where was starbucks when there was no coffee option? Why is there a need for them now?? Is it for the bathroom? ? Is it for wifi?? Is there some thing missing that the shops on Franklin or else where are not doing? If so suggest it!
As far as climax goes the spot is not for rent. I think I said this before. The owner is looking to open the space for themselves. -
While I enjoy trying to predict what coffee stops will close over the coming year and what type of stores will replace them, it is not because I have forgotten my years of hard work in food service.
While some may disagree, I see the present mix of businesses as STILL lagging behind the changes in residents, and their preferences. I think a salad-bagel place, or one that sells burritos would be awesome.
Commenting on the local buisness mix seems to be a NYC hobby: http://evgrieve.com/2013/03/7-eleven-fallout-east-village-groups.html
My case may be unique, I haven't had a cup of coffee in over 20 years.
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pulpandbean said:
Hello. Whynot it seems as if coffee shop closings seems somewhat amusing for you and other posters on this site. Do you know that people put lots of hard work, time, and money into these businesses? It seems that the desire to have Starbucks to open has consumed you. Do you not think 5 coffee shops is not enough to choose from? Where was starbucks when there was no coffee option? Why is there a need for them now?? Is it for the bathroom? ? Is it for wifi?? Is there some thing missing that the shops on Franklin or else where are not doing? If so suggest it!
As far as climax goes the spot is not for rent. I think I said this before. The owner is looking to open the space for themselves.hahaha
if you think the coffee places offer everything everyone needs, then don't worry if Starbucks opens. you'll drive Starbucks out of business!
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Starbucks is more for the yuppie type that likes "brands" (and would more likely live in a more-branded neighborhood), rather than the indie/hipster/arty type that more of the young folks here are from (myself included). They prefer indie coffeeshops with "cafe culture", and generally dislike Starbuck's super-dark roast. Notice how few Starbucks there are in the rest of Brownstone Brooklyn, especially compared to Manhattan.
The upside to Starbucks is that its part-time jobs offer health insurance.
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ehgee said:
Starbucks is more for the yuppie type that likes "brands" (and would more likely live in a more-branded neighborhood), rather than the indie/hipster/arty type that more of the young folks here are from (myself included). They prefer indie coffeeshops with "cafe culture", and generally dislike Starbuck's super-dark roast. Notice how few Starbucks there are in the rest of Brownstone Brooklyn, especially compared to Manhattan.The upside to Starbucks is that its part-time jobs offer health insurance.
i hate life
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Over the last 2 years, I perceive the indie/hipster/arty type in the neighborhood as shrinking in number along Franklin. I suspect many are being priced out.
When I talk with those who appear to meet the indie/hipster/arty description that remain, I find they are young lawyers, teachers, bankers, etc. who merely dress differently than I.
It seems they increasingly own in the the neighborhood, not rent: http://e2.ma/message/db6uf/xyhnig
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Even so, the lawyers/teachers/whatever who choose to live here generally have tastes that tend toward indie/hipster/arty.
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That is an interesting idea, but I will withhold my opinion on it until the chain stores arrive.
Then, the residents will be able to choose between the indie/hipster/arty and the bland boring "suburban mall" alternatives they are believed to not prefer, or even despise.
....I suspect many will go to the latter when they think no one is looking, because they are secretly suckers for predictability, and familiarity.
Perhaps "enough" will go to the chains that the arty places go under.
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So, Climax has now been closed since early January.
Over 4 months.
Needless to say, this is a pretty long time to go without a Climax.
Especially for men.
...anyone have any idea what the latest is?
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As one of those lawyer/teacher/whatever types who has lived in the neighborhood for a long time with hipster/arty/indie preferences, I would hate to see a Starbucks go in. It's depressing enough that one is going in on Flatbush.
Climax was always nice because it added some variety to the street. Between Washington and Franklin enough coffee shops and bars/restaurants have gone in.
The Western edge of Crown Heights has a great opportunity right now for building a area with character and it would be a shame to see it become just another replica of Midtown. We already have our mini Parisian feel with trees going up on Eastern Parkway by the museum, why spoil that with the same old crap you can get in Oklahoma.
I'd love to see more shops - the kitchen goods suggestion was great or another clothing store.
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While I love the indie stores, I'm not sure how much money they make.
I have the feeling that some of the indie stores are owned and/or run by people who have some accumulated wealth and therefore don't have to make as much money as the franchise owners and managers.
....some of the franchise folks spend everything they have to get in on a brand that they feel confident will succeed, and don't have the luxury of taking a big risk or helping the world with its problems.
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May 14: Still no activity visible.
this store has been closed for about 5 months.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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