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http://fort-greene.blogs.nytimes.com/ whaddya think?Bumping ancient threads with bot-like bullshit
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First rule of blogging: Don't post a dorky picture of yourself
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I'm kinda interested to see where this will go considering how many blogs there are covering the same area nowadays. But they're giving Desserts by Michael Allen some shine, so yay for them.
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probably i am a mean person, but i have to admit that i found some humor here: http://fort-greene.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/urban-spring-is-over/Bumping ancient threads with bot-like bullshit
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I asked my existential question: Which is better? Charmin Ultra Soft or Ultra Strong. They wouldn't post it. I stand corrected
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heh. saw your post, MS. made me smile, it did. i don't post on the times much at all, but they did censor the time i suggested that this photo resembled boobs more than eggs: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/geometries-the-eggs-in-brooklyn/?scp=3&sq=eggs%20photo%20queens&st=cse (they did run the same comment once i used snootier wording, though.)Bumping ancient threads with bot-like bullshit
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You know the beauty of the internet is that it decentralizes information. Most topics on neighborhood blogs are from the bottom up. I can't help thinking that no matter what gets discussed on these Times blogs there is a criteria somewhere in midtown that must be adhered to in the long run. I suspect that focus groups for individual neighborhoods will help "seed" the threads. I find it kind of scary, I hope it doesn't work.
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Given that the FG?CH?Bed-stuy board on Brooklynian is pretty dead, why are you hoping the NYTimes blog fails? Most of the topics here are boring or peter out pretty quickly. I hope it is successful, and more active than this site.
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It seems that the blog is VERY open to and, in fact, actively wants to recruit, neighborhood folks who want to write, interview, draw, make videos, or whatever they want for the blog. I'm interested to see how it grows. I already know several people who have reached out to the blog editor and are set up with planned guest posts of their own.
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I suppose the difference is the Times thing is news based, Brooklynian for the most part is opinion based. What can you say about free hot chocolate. I can say I don't give a flying fuck about it. I suspect the Times thing will remove the post, here an Brooklynian, a day argument will erupt about the pros and cons of free hot chocolate. It seems, somehow, more relevant, more adult. Look at the way you have to submit "stories". "IMHO" allows the reader to submit ideas for the "editor's" consideration. That IMHO virtually denies my freedom of speech.
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Modsquad -- Andy from the Local here. We welcome discussions of the pros and cons of free hot chocolate as long as they obey the Times blogs' pretty reasonable rules of discourse -- no curse words, no yelling at each other, that kind of thing. We will be posting those guidelines soon. Keep coming back!
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modsquad » Look at the way you have to submit "stories". "IMHO" allows the reader to submit ideas for the "editor's" consideration. That IMHO virtually denies my freedom of speech.
modsquad, i'm not sure you understand the difference between a blog and a message board. on a message board, like this one, you can start topics at your own free will (though they are monitored by mods). a blog is the property of the blogger. we can chime in and submit content for consideration, but he/she has the ultimate say. basically, a message board is the neighborhood park where you can do whatever you want within reason. and a blog is your neighbor's apartment where you have to follow the owner's rules however wacky they may be. /internet education 101earth goddess! -
Well OK I stand corrected. Send me a bill LeffertsGirl. I still am suspicious of a blog and/or message board that does not start from the ground up. The NY Times is motivated because it needs to increase readership to make money. Most bloggers start their blog and/or message board because they have something to say or want to connect to their neighbors, rarely do any of these people make money. Brooklyn is interesting because of the diversity of it's neighborhoods and the local blogs tend to reflect that. I presume if the "Local" is successful it's "model" will be applied to other neighborhoods, maybe tweaking the graphics a little.
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I hear what you're saying modsquad. Given the low barriers to entry where anyone can show up and create a blog for free, though...I'm thinking it's less a case of a big publication trying to corner or otherwise just monetize the market in some cynical and banal manner, and more a case of a reeling and perhaps dying industry (newspapers) and The Old Gray Lady herself looking for new ways to adapt for demand changes they see in the market ahead of them. At this point, with 1) the likes of CraigsList and eBay having eaten their Classifieds lunch and 2) significant percentages of the under-30 set (who will only grow in age and scale) that have moved away from buying print media and stick to online sources for their news and info and 3) significant percentages of the entire audience that have expressed huge interest in online access, feedback and hyper-local content (i.e. blog explosion) and 4) recent years of print advertising marketplace contracton due to factors 1-3 above and an economy that's causing other cutbacks and contractions across the boards ...there is a huge imperative for print media companies either to adapt to the road ahead and change their model to and offerings or risk losing it all and shutting down (like a few local papers like the SF Chronicle or Denver's 150-year-old Rocky Mountain News have just announced). Perhaps this will be just yet another voice adding to the chorus of various neighborhoods, which I suppose just offers the readers more choice in the end. And it may also provide work for local writers who want to cover their own (or nearby, in this case) neighborhoods availing themselves the online audiences of the larger papers, instead of starting from scratch with no following on their own blog. So why not, I say. Give it a go. As to your valid concern about mass-producing this model for other neighborhoods by perhaps merely changing out a header graphic... If you think about it, all these blogs and boards out there may come across as templated in some sense, from one gaze or another. Name me one that doesn't and I will show you a raft of comments on it decrying it as otherwise. Just like your average magazine rack, as a matter of fact.
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In fact isn't Brooklynian a series of (now I know the difference) message boards for very disparate neighborhoods? I guess no one strongly agrees or disagrees with my comment that this particular message boring doesn't seem all that active or intriguing. Perhaps there are too many flowers growing around here for any to grow very large. (Help me with that metaphor).
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http://englishrussia.com/images/toilet_fun/1.jpg Professor Jeffrey changing out a model's header graphic. Image on the not-safe-for work border, so click it yourself if you're just dying to see - modsquad, please stop posting pictures with questionable content thx The Management
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Ay Dios mio. Ha.i extend my battery life by turning down the brightness
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The NYT blogging is not new. The NYT blogging FG/CH is.
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http://fort-greene.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/the-battle-of-the-locals-on-video-now/ Roundtable discussion between brooklyn paper, the local nytimes blog and brownstoner. Thought this would fit in this thread.
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