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    1. homeowner
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      Hey folks, I just saw this on the news, and am re-posting it here in case anyone knows these folks or can help the owner whose dog was injured.

      On November 5th, around 5 pm my dog (italian greyhound) was injured by another dog named Nola or Noa (brown pit pull mix) in prospect park dog run close by Boat House. My dog's leg was broken in two places as the other dog run into my dog. My dog may further require a surgery that will cost $3000 which I am unable to afford. I may have to put my dog to sleep. The owners of Nola (or Noa) did not offer any help to get my dog to the vet. They simply walked away from the situation. It was a long hair blond lady in her early thirties with her boyfriend. Anyone with the information, please call me at 917-288-1164. There is a USD reward for any information.

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    2. opossumqueen
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      This thing is a little odd to me. Obviously we don't know exactly what happend, but as a dog owner, I pretty much feel that we are accepting a fair amount of risk by letting our dogs run off-leash with lots of dogs, many that we don't know. If a dog was blood thirsty aggressive and the owner let it near another dog, I would definitely think they are responsible for any vet bills, but dogs run into each other constantly at off leash. All the time. If my dog hurt another dog (even in play they sometimes tear ears or get bad cuts), I would offer to pay or pay part of the bill, but when I got a dog I decided (consciously) that I was taking on any potential emergency vet visits.

      What's really weird about this story is that they first posted it as a "run-in" injury (which sounds right with a broken leg) but have since changed it to "attack" or other vague terms in some reports. I also find it odd that they say they can't afford the vet bills but are offering a cash reward for info on the owners of the other dog.

      Based on the various reports here's what I could imagine happening. First, both owners are breaking the law by having their dog's off leash at that time and it's pretty darn dark by then (even before DST) so the owners of the other dog may not have even known something happened. I've never seen a dog really injured by these collisions, but I've also never seen it happen to a dog with more delicate than average bones (I assume this is part of why whippet and greyhound owners tend to keep their dogs away from big dogs. Many I know have had multiple broken legs from mild injuries). They may not haven even known it was broken immediately and let the dog keep playing (dogs are tough). The owners of the other dog may know what happened but they may also have no clue the dog was injured and that there are now posters around the park looking for them.

      I've seen some people saying that any dog that causes injury to another is the responsible one for any bills, but there are lots of shades of grey here. I've seen a dog start a fight but end up with the worse injuries. Is the dog (and owner) that was just defending itself really at fault?

      It's a horrible situation for the owner this injured dog to be in, but I hope they aren't pinning all their plans on finding and getting the other owner to pay all of these bills. And hopefully they will consider pet insurance in the future.

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      First, both owners are breaking the law by having their dog's off leash at that time

      You need to have your dog on leash in the dog run? But yeah this reeks of someone looking for a handout.

    4. winstonsmith
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      Yea, this whole "off leash " thing works great.

      If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.

      http://poop-slope.blogspot.com/
    5. whyfi
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      ....AND now the CL ad is gone. Yeah, too shady. I can only believe that this wouldn't have gotten *any* traction if not for the fact that the other dog was a pit mix.

      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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    7. whyfi
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      winstonsmith said:
      http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/11/italian-greyhound-tali-attacked-by-pit-bull-mix-in-prospect-park-owner-needs-help/

      Yup. Sickening. Guarantee that your vet bills are payed by turning it in to a story about a villain attacking your poor, defenseless pup.

      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.
    8. whynot_31
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      People give even more money to such causes as we get closer to Christmas.

      ...if the dog was owned by a 6 year old girl, who cried on camera, it might make all of the chanels and really bring in the $.

      Hopefully the dog gets it's vet bill taken care of...

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      SlopeDuder said:

      First, both owners are breaking the law by having their dog's off leash at that time

      You need to have your dog on leash in the dog run? But yeah this reeks of someone looking for a handout.

      They say dog run but there is no dog run in Prospect Park. There are off-leash hours in specific meadows and they were not there during legal off-leash hours so the dogs were supposed to be on leash.

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      The Nethermead, where they were, used to have off-leash hours in the evening but that was [sadly] ended years ago. Lots of people still go there, though, so there will be a handful of dogs playing off-leash many evenings. Personally I don't care that they do it, but if it went to court I wonder how a judge would view the case seeing that the dogs were not supposed to be off-leash to start with.

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      what, dog owners not abiding by rules like curbing their nasty dogs?! no,i don't believe it.

    12. whynot_31
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      I believe it.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      Jesus Christ with this thread... speculate much?

      Excellent job crucifying the victim here ladies and gents. Bravo!!

    14. winstonsmith
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      The "Victim" lets her dog run wild in a public place.

      If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.

      http://poop-slope.blogspot.com/
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      Delicious Rice said:
      Jesus Christ with this thread... speculate much?

      It takes speculation to conclude that the "victim," is a victim.

      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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      No.. I more meant the 14 or so other statements that begin with phrases like "i imagine, i assume, i would think, it's most likely...

      You know, just the general vibe of everyone chiming in with gentle assertions based on zero fact.

    17. winstonsmith
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      The fact is that there is not place in Prospect Park that you can legally let your dog run loose at 5pm.

      If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.

      http://poop-slope.blogspot.com/
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      winstonsmith said:
      The "Victim" lets her dog run wild in a public place.

      I knows. Dogs need to run. Unless this person lives on 3 acres of open field in Park Slope then you kinda have to let the dog 'run wild' in 'public'.

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      MW11215

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      this is speculation, but it's speculation based on the set of facts contained in the first posting. none of it seems to mischaracterize those facts . . . i imagine/assume you just don't agree with their conclusions.

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      Delicious Rice said:
      I knows. Dogs need to run. Unless this person lives on 3 acres of open field in Park Slope then you kinda have to let the dog 'run wild' in 'public'.

      No, you don't "kind of have to" let the dog run loose, and this is what happens when people do.

      If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.

      http://poop-slope.blogspot.com/
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      No, you don't "kind of have to" let the dog run loose, and this is what happens when people do.

      You also don't 'have to' own a dog... but if you do, you're a selfish dick if you don't let them 'run wild' a few times a week.

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      Delicious Rice said:

      No, you don't "kind of have to" let the dog run loose, and this is what happens when people do.

      You also don't 'have to' own a dog... but if you do, you're a selfish dick if you don't let them 'run wild' a few times a week.

      There are appropriate and legal places to do that.

      If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.

      http://poop-slope.blogspot.com/
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      There are appropriate and legal places to do that.

      Really? Where?

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      Delicious Rice said:

      There are appropriate and legal places to do that.

      Really? Where?

      There "off leash" hours in Prospect Park
      http://www.fidobrooklyn.org/offleash/offleashwinter.html

      there are also 24/7 dog runs spread out all over the place.

      If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.

      http://poop-slope.blogspot.com/
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      Delicious Rice said:
      No.. I more meant the 14 or so other statements that begin with phrases like "i imagine, i assume, i would think, it's most likely...

      You know, just the general vibe of everyone chiming in with gentle assertions based on zero fact.

      You know, just like people do on every other site on the internet. And in person.

      Be careful you're not spending too much time here DR, when there's the rest of the world to correct.

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      Today's thread has been brought to us by the word Epistemology, and the number 4.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.

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