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I read about the Prime 6 debate yesterday on brownstoner and could empathize with the people at the meeting who were voicing concerns over the use of their backyard. I wouldn't want a bar's backyard open till 11p every night of the week if they operated next to me either. Now I see on FIPS that one person has taken the initiative to create a petition to have the Prime 6 owners create an indie music venue. Check out the petition here Some of the reasoning behind her objections are going to rile up a lot of people. Interested to hear people's thoughts.
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It's now getting picked up by gawker... This is def not good for the neighborhoods reputation.
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I think the "signatures" at the bottom of the petition say it all. It's incredibly racist and stupid and nothing less than what we've all come to expect from Park Slope. Let's all hope that the petition is just a sick joke.
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What is there to discuss? It's a racist ploy to keep large groups of black people from hanging around her 'hood. She fabricates false justifications for her cause, like her invisible statistic linking rap/hip hop fans to be predisposed to higher crime rates. But we're supposed to take her "facts" at face value, because her African American colleagues agree!
Maybe if she really desired efficacy as business consultant and/or curator for the neighborhood's culture, she could have had someone edit the rough draft of this petition for ethnocentric yuppie entitlement, and thus reach a broader, diverse and more accepting crowd.
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I agree with Prospectheightsyo -- I hate that people who know where I live are asking my opinion on this - like it's actually something worthy of discussing. Racism at its finest - disguised as facts for the betterment of the community.
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The petition doesn't answer the question for me of why a hip-hop club is undesirable, but an indie music venue is not.
And, what qualifies as "indie" music for the author of this petition? Couldn't a hip-hop artist be "indie" simply by virtue of being unsigned?
Finally, the author of this petition loses a lot of credibility with me by stating that he or she remained silent during a public meeting at which he or she could have expressed these views directly to her neighbors, but has no problem writing an anonymous petition to be circulated on the internet. If you feel this strongly about something, then it is your obligation to speak up when you are invited to do so (e.g. at a public meeting.)
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And notice how she's completely vanished since posting the petition. People need to remember that what you post online never goes away!
And yeah, now everyone on Gawker has another reason to rip on Park Slope.
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The petition doesn't answer the question for me of why a hip-hop club is undesirable, but an indie music venue is not.
Well... indie music venues are normally filled with under 25 year old rich white kids drinking PBRs. Hip hop clubs are filled with urban elements pounding courvoisier and itching for gun play.
It's apples and oranges... ninja bikes and fixies.
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North Flatbush Avenue BID Urges the Public to
Hold Off on Judgement Regarding Prime6 RestaurantAn open letter to the community from Regina F. Cahill, President of the North Flatbush Avenue BID as it appeared in the Park Slope Patch, Sunday, March 6th at 6am.
"The North Flatbush Avenue District Management Association (the BID; Business Improvement District in the vernacular) was incorporated in 1982 and became operational in January 1986.
The BID is a successor to various groups that organized beginning in 1973 to promote the health and vitality of Flatbush Avenue through changing times. The BID was the natural successor to the North Flatbush Avenue Betterment Committee a Local Development Corporation (LDC) that succeeded the Triangle Parks Committee dating back to 1973.
Since the 1970's each of these organizations has had a Board of Directors comprised of property owners, merchants and residents. One should note that as a legislatively authorized BID, we are obligated to follow a formula of Board membership as assuring representation for all constituents; merchants, property owners and residents. The authorizing legislative authority requires that at all times; the Board have a majority of property owners since it is they who are responsible for payment of the "special assessment" on Flatbush Avenue properties that funds the BID's activities.
Many of the current Board members have been involved since the early 1980's. As rule, the Board has always considered the impact of the BID's activities on the "mom and pop" shops which we consider the heart and soul of the commercial street. It is important to note that although the North Flatbush Avenue BID was one of the first in the city we continue to operate with one of the smallest annual budgets.
We support business and residents alike and pride ourselves as having a rational and fair approach to neighborhood issues.Only recently has Flatbush Avenue enjoyed consistently positive attention; only since the homes on the surrounding residential blocks passed $1 million in value;only since development downtown has improved the foot traffic and increased interest from new types of businesses moving into the District.
Last fall, I celebrated my thirty-fifth anniversary of living on Flatbush Avenue. My two twenty-something children learned to walk on Flatbush Avenue in the days when there was no foot traffic and merchants were hungry for customers. I cannot tell you how many merchants were unsuccessful and closed for lack of business and others who were just ahead of the times. Now Flatbush Avenue is moving into the next era. The BID is working on a new pedestrian friendly streetscape designed to be traffic calming as well as enhancing the triangle parks. I encourage the community to visit our website to learn more of our activities.
We know that some of our neighbors are concerned about new developments, particularly Prime 6 being built at the corner of Flatbush and Sixth Avenues, but I ask you to reserve judgment on Prime 6.
We know it will be a bar restaurant, we know it may attract a new customer base but we also know that there are measures and regulations that we can employ to encourage new business to succeed while preserving our quality of life. New York State Assemblywoman Joan Millman has proposed just such controls with A 11288 which calls for restrictions on use of backyards for cafes and hours of operation.
The BID is committed to working together, to encourage the enforcement of the existing regulations and to create guidelines for existing and new businesses that will allow for business growth while preserving the peaceful enjoyment of our homes. We welcome all new businesses and residents upon their arrival provided they operate within the law and continue to be good neighbors. Additionally, we must recognize that we each have a personal responsibility to be a good neighbor and that it must start with facts, communication and understanding that there are such things as private property rights; local, state and federal regulations that often apply to our actions and there are entities and agencies to enforce existing rules and regulations.
The BID has a history of welcoming, educating, and advocating for our members and the community while promoting the fair enforcement these "codes of conduct." I urge our neighbors to trust the process and understand that civility will prevail.
Regina F. Cahill, President
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
DanielJ said:
And notice how she's completely vanished since posting the petition. People need to remember that what you post online never goes away!And yeah, now everyone on Gawker has another reason to rip on Park Slope.
I mean, she is a PSer is she not?
If the problem was with noise, she should have just gone that route.
IDK, something tells me this is a brilliant piece of satire
[Mamacita said:
I <3 CTK
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This woman does not exist. It was a spoof. The petition was equal parts racist and Park Slope hate baiting. You were punked along with many others. -
I love this. I would love to make a career out of Slope-baiting performance art petitions. For example, if you see a petition that accuses the pink building on Garfield of being a racist outrage because the owner covered up the natural, beautiful brown stone with the color of a white supremacist's skin, you'll know it's me. I'll be going under the pen name E.Z. Lulz.
Next up: A petition to unionize Co-Op members so they can engage in collective bargaining for more dignified make-work jobs, shorter hours, and better-looking reflective vests.
i blame such comments on boredom and drinkng, this is why we need more green spaces
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For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
toned down
http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2012/01/slopes-prime-6-is-now-woodland-opening-sunday/#disqus_thread
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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