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karl can not compete
with those sterling food reviews
of ole wacky jack
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For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Karl, while your poetry is abysmal second only to your collage art, I can't but help know that your talent is accurately reflected by the following Jim Hanley lyrics (if you disagree, kindly take your Depakote as prescribed):
Dear when you smiled at me, I heard a melody
It haunted me from the start
Something inside of me started a symphony
Zing! Went the strings of my heart'Twas like a breath of spring, I heard a robin sing
About a nest set apart
All nature seemed to be in perfect harmony
Zing! Went the strings of my heartYour eyes made skies seem blue again
What else could I do again
But keep repeating through and through
"I love you, love you"I still recall the thrill, guess I always will
I hope 'twill never depart
Dear, with your lips to mine, a rhapsody devine
Zing! Went the strings of my heart -
a melody,
zing went ole jack krohn's
rhapsody
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get your tickets now
jack krohn in easter parade
at barclay train stop
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When I am older I will tell the story of a mythical place where the Atlantic once met the Pacific, and a righteous battle was fought against an opponent that the warriors knew they could not defeat.
One of the warriors was a Druid.
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Justin Bierber's concert will give us a perfect opportunity to compare and contrast which audience we prefer:
Tween girls,
or Men Who Like Sports.
http://www.barclayscenter.com/
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Don't just ratify. Beliebe.
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That wiley wascle wratner, he merely promised us drunken crowds who would pee on our Brownstones, but we are getting so much more!
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
This is a fascinating conversation but despite anything that was said, there will be little or no jobs created. Perhaps a few low rent jobs and that is better then no jobs but certainly not what was promised.
Were jobs promised? Of course jobs were promised as that is a part of every deal. Pols believe because they are corrupt or they want to believe, or both.
To think that jobs will be created is to lack a fundamental understanding of capitalism which is the need to return value to the shareholders. Nothing else matters. You might disagree with this from a humanistic standpoint, as I do, but the bottom line is that people on the payroll are very expensive. Each dollar saved goes to the bottom line and payroll is the most controllable expense on a P & L as that is B School 101.
Employees today are like fat. You want as little of it as possible and you work those who DO have jobs like dogs. If they do not like it, the can quit and you simply do not replace them. More money to the bottom line. Sorry to have this viewpoint but it is reality.
“When he shall die, take him and cut him out in little stars and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun.” -
I agree. Many people "knew this" all along.
....I suspect even Bertha knew it.
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It looks like dancers are being hired, but I am not sure if they live locally.Even if you're a lady, the odds are slim. 150 will be whittled down to 30, then the dancers compete with former New Jersey Nets dancers, then the number is cut down to 20 after a performance in front of the public on June 13 following a "boot camp" led by Wellington.
http://gothamist.com/2012/06/03/spandex_hoop_dreams_think_you_can_d.php#photo-1
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While no employer is willing to employ those who are unemployable, many people may work for the arena because "These jobs are better than no job."
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
whynot_31 said:
That wiley wascle wratner, he merely promised us drunken crowds who would pee on our Brownstones, but we are getting so much more!Gospel and Al Sharpton will save us!
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Will the people at Sunday's event be protesting Ratner, or those who gave him money?
Were we scammed? Or, did we put irresponsible people in charge of our money?
Or, were we fools who bought into promises that no one could keep?
If those who believed are suckers, are those who didn't believe, merely victims of the suckers?
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
source: curbed
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get one: http://www.misswit.net/atlanticpacific
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Who let the jobs out
(woof woof woof)
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Karl the Druid said:
i don't think jesusevoked emminent domain to rid the residents
while playing three card monte with public funds
BOOM!
"If Elvis is the King of Rock 'n' Roll, then Chuck Berry must be Master of the Universe." -
in the post ... strangely, as our own karl the druid foretold ....
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/nba_deal_is_net_loss_for_klyn_0jQTL97MrYcvmOMqct4TOK
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Nothing strange about Karl's prediction and accuracy. Druids are smart.
On page 2, one can find the latest description of how many jobs the area will get:
http://www.brooklyncb8.org/pdfs/mins/cb%20minutes%20May%202012.pdf
Did the public get what it paid for? Was job creation the motivation of those who spent public money?
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Those who thought that the Red Hook IKEA and Fairway would have a large impact on the area's "most unemployed", have also been disappointed:
Perhaps we are looking at problems that do not have quick fixes, and should be suspicious of those who tell us otherwise....
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Melissa has a job!
Hi whynot_31,
Hope this finds you well.
TerraCRG has been extremely active in the immediate area surrounding the Barclays Center. We are currently marketing 6 properties and already sold 3 properties within 5 blocks of the Barclays Center. The most notable of these sales was Triangle Sports Building across the street from the Barclays Center that sold for a record of $911/SF. Below are the properties we’re currently marketing in the area (for sale and for lease):
32 Fifth Avenue: The 5,760 SF corner building has over 110 ft of total frontage facing the Barclay’s Center which is 1 short block away. Zoning allows for a total buildable of approximately 8,799 SF including approximately 5,800 SF that can be allocated for commercial/retail use. Asking Price $4.5M. Setup:
http://www.terracrg.com/setups/32-34_Fifth_Avenue.pdf75 St Marks Avenue: The 3,720 SF building is three stories and is 3 blocks from the Barclays Center. It consists of two residential units that are in need of a total gut renovation, and a ground floor retail space with 15 ft of frontage and a basement with high ceilings and will be delivered vacant. Asking Price $1.895M. Setup: http://www.terracrg.com/setups/75_St_Marks_Avenue.pdf
448 Dean Street : The 1,800 SF retail space is 1 block from the Barclays Center and offers an entire two story building with 22' of frontage on Dean Street. Call for Lease pricing. Setup: http://www.terracrg.com/setups/448_Dean_Street.pdf
450 Dean Street: The 2,250 SF retail space is 1 block from the Barclays Center and is 25’ wide with 2,250 usable SF with an available 850 SF possible extension. Call for Lease pricing. Setup: http://www.terracrg.com/setups/450_Dean_Street.pdf
TOREN Commercial Condo Units: The 11,077 SF ground floor commercial space plus 97 accessory parking space garage are 5 blocks from the Barclays Center located in the TOREN condominium building. The retail space is currently occupied by Metropolitan City Market; the only full service grocery store serving the immediate area, which consists of more than 3,500 units. The current lease extends to 2025. The 21,780 SF parking garage is currently operated by Imperial Parking Systems and can be delivered without the operator. Surrounding residential development, coupled with the recent opening of the Barclay’s Center, is causing an increase in the demand for garaged parking units in the area. Asking Price $9M.Setup:
http://www.terracrg.com/setups/Toren_Commercial_Condos.pdf265-269 Fourth Ave: The site is zoned R8A/C2-4/EC with a 6.02 FAR allowing for a total buildable of 63,454 SF. The property has a slightly irregular footprint of 100 ft x 100 ft. There is an existing 14-unit multifamily building on the corner lot, and a 3,964 SF industrial building on the two remaining lots. The industrial building will be delivered vacant. The multifamily building will be delivered as is. The properties are currently owned by two separate owners. Asking Price $9M. Setup:
http://www.terracrg.com/setups/Fourth_Avenue_Assemblage.pdfWe would be happy to talk sit down and discuss these properties and others as the Brooklyn market continues to evolve around the Barclays Center. Please feel free to contact me or any member of my team at any time to discuss.
Melissa DiBella
VP, Sales & Marketing
TerraCRG | Commercial Realty Group
592 Pacific Street, Suite B, Brooklyn, NY 11217
Office: 718-768-6888
Fax: 646-253-7750
Email: mdibella@terracrg.comFor better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Arena jobs:
http://www.brooklynbarclayscenterjobs.com/
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Despite high rates of unemployment among those with low skills sets, the arena is finding it difficult to maintain a workforce:
http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2012/11/more-hiring-at-barclays-center.html
As time goes on, the arena may develop a core group of "happy" employees, and turnover will fall.
However, the arena may decide that the mere passage of time and the "weeding out" that naturally happens when launching a new venture isn't going to be enough; the managers may experiement with increasing wages and benefits.
Or, they may simply decide that turnover is an inherent part of these entry level positions and that it isn't important to have longevity because new employees can be quickly found and trained.
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Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that the jobs created are crap jobs. Walmart jobs.
These are not jobs you can really live on. Not jobs you can raise a family on and pay the rent on and save for a house on. These are just crap jobs that are numbing to those who have to either take them, or starve.
You do not get a piece of the American Dream on these jobs. You simply tire out. If you get a moment, read the book called "Nickeled and Dimed In America. It is eye opening.
“When he shall die, take him and cut him out in little stars and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun.” -
Yes, we are in a situation where a legal, on the books, crap job is (hopefully) better than no job, or one that is illegal and/or off the books.
The questions are, "how much should we be willing to pay an employer who promises to create such jobs?"
"should we believe such promises are not exaggerated?"
"would the jobs have been created without a gov subsidy?"
"did we get as much as we could with the public resources we committed, and the taxes that we have exempted this entity from for decades?"
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Whynot does such a good job standing that I don't have to post about AY very often, but here's the newest link about how the 17,000 jobs Bruce promised are pure myth:
After hundreds of millions of dollars of our tax subsidies to AY, we deserve more. Here's Norman Oder's comments on the DNAinfo article:
Norman Oder » The 2000 arena jobs, including 105 full-time jobs, are the equivalent of 1240 full-time equivalent (FTE) jobs, officials said last year.
My coverage:
http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2012/04/how-many-full-time-jobs-at-barclays.htmlMy calculation: the average part-timer works less than 24 hours a week.
So, if they earn $11/hour, that's less than $264 a week. If $12/hour, it's less than $288 a week. If $13/hour, it's less than $312 a week.
However welcome the jobs are to people who need work, that compensation won't pay for independent housing and health insurance.
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Yes, I saw that article.
However, I can't say I fault AY for building and operating their arena (and the future housing) in the most cost efficient manner.
That is not where I place the blame, that is merely where I go to see shows.
My choices seem to be: pay twice (capital plus ticket) and get to see something, or pay only once (capital) and simply get to walk by.
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If Ratner is providing a job for every $375,000 spent, he's doing a lot better than Obama.
Ratner for president!
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eastbloc said:
If Ratner is providing a job for every $375,000 spent, he's doing a lot better than Obama.Ratner for president!
Not trying to be cute here but tell me, how do you define a "job?"
“When he shall die, take him and cut him out in little stars and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun.”
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