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Crown Heights is to Greenpoint
as Prospect Heights is to Williamsburg????
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It's true.
PH was once the domain of so called hipsters and pioneers.
I was so excited when Sepia opened in 2003! I was so excited when Beast opened!
Now, we are no longer young. We were once the buffer between the "real world" and the Slope. CH is now the buffer between PH and the real world.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
And Park Slope is turning in to N.J......at least we in Prospect Heights have a few more years of borderline coolness.....
Proud to be a naturalized citizen of the greatest city on earth. -
If PH becomes NJ, I will not take it sitting down!
Although I can not control the neighborhood's destiny, I will move east so I am not around people my own age and lameness! I will not be in bars with lame, old people!
I will be the lame, old guy among the young people in the cool bar in the cool neighborhood!
(and then come to the sad realization that they are nothing like me.....)
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
That was a happy realization for me.
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I am glad I was never like some of them.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
And it begins...
Prospect Heights compared to.....Williamsburg
"Prospect Heights' Dating Scene 'Chiller' Than Williamsburg"
http://prospectheights.patch.com/articles/prospect-heights-dating-scene-chiller-than-williamsburgbut Chiller? maybe I don't get the hipster language but I thought "chiller" would imply more relaxed -- uh shall we say "care free"
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Am I the only one who believes that PH and CH largely managed to avoid the flannel shirt, PBR demographic?
In 2004, I saw a worrisome group in Soda, but then I didn't see them again until 2008 at Franklin Park.
I haven't really seen them since. Are they still around, but elusive? ....or we're they priced out?
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
PH = PS, sad but true
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It is all about falling love with one moment in time, perhaps even related to a time period in your life and where you lived during that time.
For example, let's assume you wanted to do 2008 over again, and lived in PH in 2008.
It sounds hard, but you could try it by moving to CH, and pricing out someone who wanted to renew their lease.
Ditto, those who presently live in CH and want to live in a neighborhood that presently resembles CH in 2008, must go somewhere.
Slope-ification. Gentrification. Blight. Regardless of what you call it, the cycle goes on. We must re-live 2008.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Brokelyn Chimes in
"Two plausible arguments that Prospect Heights now extends to Franklin Avenue...."
http://www.brokelyn.com/the-happy-hour-guide-to-prospect-heights/ -
It's funny whenever these types of articles suggest the "redistricting," i.e. extending the border to Franklin, because that's based on this fallacy that the demographics of a neighborhood cannot change. Isn't it more ludicrous to change the name of an area to reflect the demographic? Only realtors need to do that, so they can profit off the nervousness of the uninitiated.
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I agree Abe.
I think the transformation occurred when Vanderbilt Ave recognized that the area had aged, and became more about dining than drinking.
In my mind, this happened when The Vanderbilt opened.
The destruction of our two remaing dive bars also completed the process:
A. Freddy's was evicted to make way for AY.
B. Mooney's became Sharlene's. (still divey, but much less so)For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Additional key events that come to mind in the PH to PS transformation:
1. The renovation of the Underhill Playground, and creation of the Friends of the Underhill Playground. The guys drinking 40s haven't been seen since.
2. The renovation of the decrepit Disassociated bodega at Underhill and St Johns.
http://brooklynian.com/forum/prospect-heights/the-former-associated-asscaed-on-underhill
Western CH (aka Crow Hill, ProCro, FauxPro), you are next.....
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
And, now the final humiliation:
A upscale brand, Cole Haan, claims Prospect Heights is the coolest neighborhood in NYC, meaning we are not at all the coolest neighborhood in NYC.
http://www.refinery29.com/cole-haan-winner?page=1
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
You know, when people complain about neighborhood boundaries shifting, I just remember how Park Slope used to stop at 9th Street.
I'm hopeful that western Crown Heights can be its own thing (Crow Hill is a great name, but isn't that supposed to start at Franklin? Pro-Cro can't get a break) - but I won't be surprised if the wave sweeps PH's name into the area as well as people who were priced off of Vanderbilt.
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When a neighborhood becomes too wealthy and narcissistic for its own good, it often develops a crazy culture.
In Park Slope this culture can be seen in some of the members of the Co-op and many of those raising children.
I think the Artisan Mayo store is a sure sign of such craziness developing in PH.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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