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    1. brooklynbound
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      Did anyone hear about the Bloods initiation that's supposed to take place today? They are supposed to kill 31 women. Is it real or a hoax?
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    2. windowdressing
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      Ugh...I've been hearing about this for days from my high school students in Brownsville. Such bullshit. Gangs are real, yes, but this is bullshit--and incredibly offensive. Not to mention the reason that there are so few girls in my classes today.
    3. brooklynbound
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      Same here. A lot of females did not show.
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    4. mamacita
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      Yeah, the school called me and asked if I could let my student intern go home early.
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    5. quig
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    6. stacey
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      I do not know about Bloods but this type of story has been circulating since I was young but with different gang names
    7. cool the kid
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      I just heard from a dude

      His mom called him (she is a cop) and told him to tell everyone to be careful as gang initiation are taking place in the hood tonight
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    8. quig
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      Unless I hear it from KWAC (or any other authority), it's tripe.
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      I've also heard from a very reliable source that we should all be careful tonight...
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      Made the NY times but no concrete confirmaiotn, just confirmation of the existence of rumors:

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4D91531F93BA15753C1A961958260
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      This is the same urban myth that's been circulating since the 80s. Seriously, I remember this from middle school in KANSAS.
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      I heard that there have been several face slashings in Prospect Heights, Crown Heights and Downtown Brooklyn. One of the guys I work with has a brother who is a cop in Brooklyn he said that there have been several slashings and gang disputes that have resulted in arrests. He said be aware of your surroundings....
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      Lo Kee » Made the NY times but no concrete confirmaiotn, just confirmation of the existence of rumors:

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4D91531F93BA15753C1A961958260

      That article is from 1997.
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      homeowner » [quote="Lo Kee"]Made the NY times but no concrete confirmaiotn, just confirmation of the existence of rumors:

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4D91531F93BA15753C1A961958260

      That article is from 1997.[/quote]

      Oh, that's funny.
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      homeowner » [quote="Lo Kee"]Made the NY times but no concrete confirmaiotn, just confirmation of the existence of rumors:

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4D91531F93BA15753C1A961958260

      That article is from 1997.[/quote]

      Well I think we put that one to bed.
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      poshspice » This is the same urban myth that's been circulating since the 80s. Seriously, I remember this from middle school in KANSAS.

      You're not in KANSAS anymore. Be carefull tonight and every night.
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      I just heard more reports of "mischief" becareful folks...
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      This is relevant to this year, but not too close to PH:

      http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/10/extra_police_protection_around.html
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      Lo Kee » This is relevant to this year, but not too close to PH:

      http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/10/extra_police_protection_around.html

      I think that "Mischief Night" is the night before Halloween, and yeah, it's always been a big prank night. It's called "Cabbage Night" where I'm from.

      No matter what night it is, you should ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings. That's just plain common sense in NYC or anywhere.
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      The night before Halloween was considered "Devil's Night" in Detroit. Pranks and burning down places was what stupid people use to do back when I was growing up. It was a real problem at that time cuz some people would actually go set an abandoned home , building , or whatever on fire. They had a curfew for anyone under the age of 18. We couldn't be outside after 6 or 7pm. They had cops patrolling the areas. Finally the Mayor , no not that one , the good one --> Mayor Archer changed it to "Angels Night". They ask residents to go to the police stations and volunteer to help patrol the neighborhoods. They give you an orange flashing light to put on your car for a 3 days. Things got much better after that.
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      BKChickie »  It's called "Cabbage Night" where I'm from.

      Oh my god, you're the only other person who I've heard all it that here. Maybe we're from the same hometown.
    22. brooklynlager
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      trick or treat?
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      brooklynlager » trick or treat?

      Oo, oo, oo! Trick, please! Preferably a back-flip or a head-spin. I love that stuff!
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      Subject: Re: Gang Initiation - 31 Women - Hoax or not?

      Brooklynbound » Did anyone hear about the Bloods initiation that's supposed to take place today? They are supposed to kill 31 women. Is it real or a hoax?

      I am sorry to inform you that it is indeed real my friend. Keep your women inside and lock you doors!!!
    26. jeffrey
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      There was some idle trash-talking about it (met with others calling it total b.s.) lately on the following site mentioned in a prior gangs-related thread:

      http://thehoodup.com/board/viewforum.php?f=22

      Here's Police Commissioner Ray Kelly knocking it down to just rumors, mentioning that there's been no specific evidence to support a credible, specific alert other than the usual heightened activity that occurs around Halloween.

      And the Gothamist newsmap thingy ain't exactly lighting up either, if that means anything.

      So I'm gonna go with the usual old hoax explanation here unless matters indicate otherwise. And watch my back.
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    27. king without a crown
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      Well the night is just about over, it was pretty uneventful by me. There were no gang/slashing warnings given to the Police Dept that I know of. The first I heard of this, was when Mom called and asked me if I knew anything about. Throughout the City there was plenty of mayhem, but we can chalk that up to just typical Halloween stuff in NYC.
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      Bendy Broad » [quote="BKChickie"] It's called "Cabbage Night" where I'm from.

      Oh my god, you're the only other person who I've heard all it that here. Maybe we're from the same hometown.[/quote]

      I'm from W Mass.
    30. xlizellx
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      1 - same rumor went around in my PA hometown when i was a kid.

      2 - i was at dinner last night and a young woman came to our table to tell us her grandma had just called and said 2 people had been cut on the subway train right in front of her ... she said if we were staying in brooklyn to take the bus or walk. weird

      3 - i teach elementary school and we had to have males escort our kids to their blocks because of GROWN MEN throwing eggs off of roof tops at LITTLE CHILDREN. i HATE halloween.
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      I'm from W Mass.

      Hey, me too. Where in W Mass?
    32. bkchickie
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      here4now » 

      I'm from W Mass.

      Hey, me too. Where in W Mass?

      I PM'd you my childhood wearabouts.
    33. dda
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      ahhh, but it was also "cabbage night" where i grew up, in jersey.
    34. bkchickie
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      Yes, for some crazy reason NJ and parts of Mass use this name.
    35. quig
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      "cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ
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      false! i'm from central jersey and it was always called mischief night. i've never heard the words "cabbage night" before in my life.
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      yourlittleshark » false! i'm from central jersey and it was always called mischief night. i've never heard the words "cabbage night" before in my life.

      Not sure about the rest of Jersey, but certain towns in Bergen County called it Cabbage Night when I was growing up. Was never clear on why it was called that. It was called that when my father and uncle were growing upt there too, and they had no idea what the origin of the name was either.
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      Spoke with a cop friend. Works in the 67. Said there has been alot of face slashing since thursday. Just a heads up.
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      Subject: Gang initiations?

      My son works in Times Square and he said that the week of Halloween two people were stabbed and paralyzed in front of one of the restaurants in Times Square. The police were there and they told the staff to get cabs home and stay out of the subways that evening. So my son and his friends split a cab ride home that night. I'm just saying this event really happened. He loves the city and I've never heard him sound so shaken up over anything there before.

      He was told that the weeks of Halloween and Easter are gang initiation times. It sounds like it's not common knowledge and kept quiet so as not to scare tourists away. As his mom who visits him from Michigan, and who loves NYC, I can tell you I will not be booking travel plans to the city around Halloween or Easter. We've gone several times, walked and subwayed everywhere, been out late and never had any problem... but this was scary news and I know he was shook up from it.

      He has been traveling to NYC since he was 16 on his own, tagging along with older friends. He gets teased about being from Detroit there, when he asks if certain neighborhoods are safe. Like nothing could be worse than Detroit! LOL! (But he was a suburban boy here -- not urban -- big difference!) However in NYC he's lived everywhere from the upper west side to Harlem to Washington Heights... and loves it all!

      Why wouldn't he love it when he can go see La Traviata at the Met for $26 student rate and get Orchestra pit! And see a different opera the next night! This amazed me! More than one opera at a time running concurrently in the same house??? -- Can you tell I'm from Podunk - Detroit? Four operas is our whole season for the year... you get that in a month! NYC - what a city!!! I love it and I'm jealous of you all... but do take care and be safe!

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    40. quig
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      hysterween |hiˈstewēn; |

      noun

      exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion or excitement, esp. among a group of people who think they are going to be attacked by other people who don’t look like them : I can get a seat on the Lex during rush hour since people are so scared of hysterween.

      Which restaurant? When? What time? No reporting what-so-ever? Specifics or I'm calling bull.

      No offence, but the adage "if it bleeds. It leads," is still the mantra for the newspapers in this town. If the post got a whiff of the "bloods" "mafia" "purple gang" or (insert faceless ethically-based gang i.e. "them") they would pull out the 98 point type and splash it on the front page.

      It's not that I doubt that crime happens. I'm not buying the fear.
    41. bkchickie
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      Paula » My son works in Times Square and he said that the week of Halloween two people were stabbed and paralyzed in front of one of the restaurants in Times Square.

      Paula, if this had actually happened in the way that your son described it, the news would have been all over it--even in a big place like NYC. Before I'm going to get worried about this, I need specifics: restaurants, locations, dates.

      I'm not saying that something didn't happen, I'm just thinking that maybe the cop exaggerated a bit. It's been my experience that police at a crime scene generally aren't too forthcoming with information. Maybe this cop was just telling a story for the tourists to take home to Iowa....
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      I think it was the Saturday or Sunday before Halloween. Around 47th street hmmm... the cop was there for a disturbance not related to the stabbings... maybe that's their way of cutting crime down... having people avoid subways as a preventative measure? Lot's of weird stuff was going on in the area that week bad vibes... I thought it was odd that both stabbings resulted in paralysis. Maybe it was slashings instead? Still bad obviously, but as a dancer the paralysis thing really hit his hot button! He's lived in the city now for 3 years and never been worried about anything before!
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      My students in The BX were talking about this this past week. They said that Bloods were supposed to slash the face of or rape 30 women on Halloween. They said they knew of a few girls who got their faces cut. Seems like if 30 girls really got their faces cut, it would have made the news. Whether or not there is any truth to this does not change the fact that gangs are entirely lame.
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      I was going to reply with a dispute to the stabbing claim - I work on west 47th and didn't hear anything about it.. However, a quick search came up with this article - maybe this is what they were talking about. From the Post. Another one mentions that the kid stabbed outside of the theater was partially paralyzed as a result. Also, a third article says that four people were stabbed (all at a Saw V screening).

      Then I was going to say that it's crazy that Easter is a more violent time than usual -- but then I found this.

      who knew?

      For what it's worth I've lived here my entire life and never been stabbed (I just knocked on wood) and, NY used to be much more violent than it is now. If it makes you feel more comfortable not to travel during certain times then do your thing, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. The NY metro area has almost 19 million people - the odds are very much in your favor.
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      "For what it's worth I've lived here my entire life and never been stabbed (I just knocked on wood) and, NY used to be much more violent than it is now. If it makes you feel more comfortable not to travel during certain times then do your thing, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. The NY metro area has almost 19 million people - the odds are very much in your favor."

      Hey Jarvis, and all you New Yorkers... I admire and love your attitudes on this! You've helped me "re-frame" this event and put it into context... I guess out of 19 million people... the odds are that I'm not going to be "the one" and neither is my son.

      When my son was younger he was a boy soprano in the Opera here... that put us in Detroit in some lovely neighborhoods to go to the costume warehouse back then-- these awful little back alleys with manhole covers stolen and burnt out houses. (now costumes are conveniently and safely kept together in the main opera house!) I would do what I had to do and never projected fear to my kids... just that you had to be aware of your surroundings and watch yourself. If you do that you can go anywhere. I refuse to live in fear of being attacked and that was how I raised my kids.

      I guess here in Detroit though we can go home to the suburbs... and feel safer. Ultimately, as the other part of the quote in my signature states: "Security is mostly a superstition"... so we just trust and live our lives.
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    46. brooklynpotter
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      quig » "cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ

      me too, bergen county.

      (i've heard people from passaic county call it "goosey night")
      what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
    47. rtraindweller
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      quig » "cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ

      Yea I always thought it was a Bergen County thing to cause my friends from Morris County call it Mischief Night.
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      brooklynpotter » [quote="quig"]"cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ

      me too, bergen county.

      (i've heard people from passaic county call it "goosey night")[/quote]

      goosey night? haven't heard that one. gonna consult my passaic amigos on that one.
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      rtraindweller » [quote="brooklynpotter"][quote="quig"]"cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ

      me too, bergen county.

      (i've heard people from passaic county call it "goosey night")[/quote]

      goosey night? haven't heard that one. gonna consult my passaic amigos on that one.[/quote]

      Perhaps it harkens back to Passaic antiquity...

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