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State Loses Final Appeal in Atlantic Yards Fight
http://prospectheights.patch.com/articles/court-requires-new-approval-for-towers-at-atlantic-yards
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Does Ratner and NYS even have enough money to build these skyscrapers? And, even if they do; why would they build them? We have enough empty condo buildings as it is.
"Clamato! Straight Up! No chasah! -
That may be why they want to slow down the construction over 25 years.
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Huge Victory? Um, no.
You know those situations where a boss and an employee hate each other, then the employee is fired, and successfully sues to get his/her lousy job back?
As a result, the employee continues to have the privilege of working at a lousy job for someone whom they hate, and hates them.
I view this court "win" as sort of similar: Some members of the public are pleased FCR might be forced to fulfill their end of the contract in a timely manner, but most wish the public had paid attention in high school and not smoked so much ganja, so we could have had the smarts to stay out of this situation from the start, and known who our real friends are.....
That said, my sincere congrats to DDDB and the various coalition groups.
...while they won't be able to get us the full value of the public money spent, they
might get us more than we would have otherwise.If I have hope, it is that this whole experience will cause us to take some inexpensive classes at the Community College, and they allow us to avoid similar predicaments in the future....
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Idlewild said:
Does Ratner and NYS even have enough money to build these skyscrapers? And, even if they do; why would they build them? We have enough empty condo buildings as it is.He was planning on putting pre-fab buildings on the site. The height of which has never been built or tested.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/nyregion/17yards.html?pagewanted=all -
A more realistic view:
Atlantic Yards faces a small setback
By IAN THOMAS
Jun 27, 2012 3:56 pmForest City Ratner and the Empire State Development Corp. must conduct a new supplemental environmental impact statement of the Atlantic Yards project, as the New York Court of Appeals revealed Tuesday that it would not hear an appeal of lower court rulings.
The developer and the state's development arm opened themselves up to the legal challenge by modifying the plan in 2009.
The plan for the Brooklyn project, which includes the nearly complete Barclays Center and was first unveiled in 2003, was changed when it became clear that it would take far longer than the original estimate of 10 years to complete because of the recession and lawsuits filed by opponents. They successfully argued that the environmental impact should examine the effects on the neighborhood from 25 years of construction.
"We're pleased the court did not hear the appeal," said Jeffrey Baker, a partner at the law firm of Young Sommer, which represents Develop Don't Destroy Brooklyn, a community group that was involved in bringing the original lawsuit back in November 2009. "This is an opportunity for the government to rethink and reformulate this project."
But there is no such requirement, nor any indication that it will change anything.
"While we do not agree with the court's decision, we are prepared to conduct the SEIS on Phase 2 as ordered," said Kenneth Adams, CEO and president of Empire State Development, in a statement referring to the supplemental environmental impact statement. Phase 2 includes towers east of Sixth Avenue and the arena block.
The new study is not expected to delay construction.
"ESD's goal is to keep all phases of the project moving forward to ensure that the community is fully engaged and can receive the benefits of a world-class development that will bring thousands of jobs, affordable housing, open space and community facilities to Brooklyn as soon as possible," Mr. Adams said.
A spokesman for his agency said the study is expected to take up to 18 months to complete and cost around $1.3 million, all of which Forest City Ratner must pay.
A public hearing is a requirement of the impact statement.For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
Needless to say, the public hearing that is mandated will be quite a circus. If FCR is smart, it will be held in a room with a capacity of 100 people, on a Tuesday, when it is raining, and there is a larger news story happening.
For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor. -
There is always a larger news story happening. Aside from Norman Oder, who will probably still be writing about this topic 25 years from now, no one pays attention to this subject anymore. Except to talk about Barbara or The Biebs.
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