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    1. doctorj
      doctorj

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      PS 9's rise-and-rise is a serious force driving the increasing desirability of living in Prospect Heights. They need the community's assistance ASAP. My kids don't go there (yet) but I'm supporting them now because they're such an asset. See below for details.


      Dear neighbors:
      PS 9 is a valuable asset to the Prospect Heights neighborhood, and has just had
      some unexpected news regarding funding that will require immediate, drastic cuts
      unless the neighborhood rallies. Here's URL for the article that was just
      published on the PS 9 website. (Text pasted below) Please pass it around to
      anyone who might be able to help.

      http://www.ps9brooklyn.org/news/2012/06/ps-9-emergency-fundraising-appeal/

      PS 9 Emergency Fundraising Appeal:

      PS 9 has lost $360K in funding

      On Monday, June 19, PS 9 was informed that the school no longer qualifies as a
      high-poverty, Title I school. Instead of 60 percent low-income, we're now at
      59.1 percent (a difference of roughly 5 students not qualifying for free lunch).
      With that news, the school has just lost approximately $360,000 in federal
      funding for the next academic year (2012-2013). Our population is still majority
      low-income, to be sure—we simply do not meet the percentage requirement to
      qualify for the Title I funds.

      Because of this change, another funding program—Fair Student Funding—has kicked
      in to make up $200,000 of this shortfall, but the school is still left with an
      approximate $160,000 deficit.

      Teachers will lose their jobs next week unless we can offset the loss

      According to Principal Sandra D'Avilar, the loss of the Title I funding means 4
      full-time teachers must be laid off, unless the PTO can quickly come up with the
      money to cover the $160,000 shortfall. Principal D'Avilar will need to start
      letting teachers know their jobs have been terminated starting this Monday, June
      25. The PTO is asking PS 9 families as well as local homeowners and business
      owners to donate as much as they are able, before June 25. (If money comes in
      after June 25, the teachers may be able to be re-hired.)

      How you can make a difference today

      Donate! $5, $50, $500, $5000. Whatever you can afford. Donations are fully tax
      deductible (The PTO is a 501(c)3 charity) and qualify for corporate matching
      funds. For info on how to donate online via credit card, go to

      http://www.ps9brooklyn.org/donate/

      Checks can be made out to "PS9 PTO" and dropped in the PTO drop box in the main
      office or mailed to
      PS 9 PTO, 80 Underhill Ave, Room 132A, Brooklyn, NY 11238.

      Where the money will go

      Under Department of Education regulations, the PTO cannot pay classroom
      teachers' salaries, but it CAN pay for many other things, such as cluster
      teachers, professional development programs, arts consultants and intervention
      teachers, as well as school equipment and supplies. Current donations will go
      toward all those expenses, so that Principal D'Avilar can free up the funds
      necessary to retain our full teaching staff.

      Budget cuts in the past few years have taken $500 per student from PS 9, and
      this loss of funding will take another $250 per student. That's $750 less per
      student. The PS 9 and Prospect Heights communities must band together to make up
      this dramatic shortfall and ensure that PS 9 continues to flourish and grow.

      Let's make sure PS 9 stays the neighborhood jewel that it is.

      PS 9 is an incredible school, with a dynamic principal, a progressive
      educational approach, a focus on meeting individual needs and learning styles, a
      commitment to arts enrichment, ongoing professional development for teachers, a
      state of the art new library, a new playground, an outdoor classroom and garden,
      a trout-release project and much, much more. Because of its educational
      excellence and its extremely diverse, friendly community feel, it has become a
      magnet, drawing new families to the Prospect Heights neighborhood. All this,
      with about $450,000 less in fundraising than PS 321 in Park Slope. Let's keep PS
      9 going strong and give it what it needs to grow. A great public school benefits
      all of us–students, parents, Prospect Heights residents and business owners.

      The PS 9 PTO is a 501(c)3 charity. In addition to solving this immediate
      challenge, tax-deductible donations can pay for books, supplies, additional
      teacher's aides, upgrading technology, reinstating valuable programs lost to
      budget cuts, soundproofing the cafeteria and the gym, and more. Please consider
      making as large an immediate donation as you can, as well as setting up an
      ongoing monthly donation to keep our school great—and growing.

      http://www.ps9brooklyn.org/donate/

      The world will little note nor long remember what we say here. -- Abraham Lincoln
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      thelambchop

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      Thanks for posting this. I just did my part. My kids don't go there yet either, but will soon! I am hoping that even people without kids, or with kids at other schools, will donate, since good public schools are good for everyone.

    3. bkchickie
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      thelambchop said:
      I am hoping that even parents without kids, or even kids at other schools, will donate, since good public schools are good for everyone.

      How can you be a parent without kids?

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      el syd

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    5. whynot_31
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      photo: Daily News

      As Dr J quotes above, the school was in danger of losing federal funds:

      On Monday, June 19, PS 9 was informed that the school no longer qualifies as a high-poverty, Title I school. Instead of 60 percent low-income, we're now at 59.1 percent (a difference of roughly 5 students not qualifying for free lunch).
      With that news, the school has just lost approximately $360,000 in federal funding for the next academic year (2012-2013). Our population is still majority low-income, to be sure—we simply do not meet the percentage requirement to qualify for the Title I funds.

      An article in today's Daily News repeats the appeal:

      http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/prospect-heights-public-school-loses-federal-funding-enrollment-drop-poor-students-article-1.1151843

      Gentrification sucks?

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    6. homeowner
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      I'm confused. Wouldn't it just be easier to go recruit 5 more low income students/families to come into a good, safe, up-and-coming school?

    7. whynot_31
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      That might be a good strategy going forward, but I am under the impression that the feds looked at the prior year (2011 - 2012) in order to cut funding for the upcoming year (2012 - 2013).

      Our strategy might be a hard sell to a low income family: If I was low income and committed to my child's education to the degree that I was going to enroll them and transport them everyday to a far away "nice, wealthy, healthy" school, I could probably shoot really high ...higher than PS 9.

      In related news:

      -Given how far Atlantic Yard's definition of "affordable housing" is from how families who qualify for Title I define such things, having more low income folks live locally seems unlikely in the immediate future.

      -This brownstone just sold for $2.3M: http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&listingid=851051

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      thelambchop

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      zoned schools don't have staff for recruiting and even if they did could not legally target low-income kids for recruitment purposes. also, it's the city that sets the percentage cutoffs to receive title I funds, and they do it by borough. schools in staten island get these funds if they have anything over 45% low-income - the cutoff is much higher in brooklyn because brooklyn is poorer overall. how's that for sensible?

      beyond that, i think some of you may have some outdated impressions about ps9 and the realities of the nyc school system. ps9 is a zoned school; no, it's not a rich school because it reflects the diversity of the zone, the DOE's priorities, and the lag-time between neighborhood gentrification and integration of zoned schools, especially when there continue to be "pre-gentrified" alternatives that some families can or will opt for. still, ps9 has become very popular in the neighborhood, and with a terrific principal and very active PTA will only become more so.

      so, whynot, to your point about the attractiveness of ps9 to a low-income family, perhaps the school is not "wealthy," (relative to schools like ps 321, which uniformly have no space for kids who are out of zone, regardless of income) but "nice and healthy" it is for sure.

    9. whynot_31
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      From what I know of PS 9 from my friends who have children, I would not hesitate to send my children there.

      I suspect a child of mine would prefer it to PS 321.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      thelambchop

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      mine too! (which is why we'll be there when the time comes.) and to be clear, i mean no disrespect to ps 321, which from everything i hear must be doing a fabulous job.

    11. stacey
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      thelambchop said:
      mine too! (which is why we'll be there when the time comes.) and to be clear, i mean no disrespect to ps 321, which from everything i hear must be doing a fabulous job.

      My 16 year old son went there from pre k to 5th grade. While it has greatly improved there have always been wonderful, caring teachers there who now, under the fabulous principal Ms. D'Avilar and VP Ms. Smith, have truly shined. I love they way they make you feel included in your child's education as well as the school itself. While I would financially support the PTA, I find them to be very cliquish and I don't have the highest tolerance for b.s., my voice or opinion was never lost. I hope your child does go to PS 9 - I think they as well as you will be very happy.

    12. raulism
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      My daughter just started PS9 yesterday- we're very happy to be there for many reasons. My understanding is that schools have no say in who they accept- students in Pre-K were accepted by random lottery. In other years, the individual schools used to have some input, but no more. So I doubt PS9 could let in a few low-income students to get the funding back.

    13. homeowner
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      Lottery's are only used when there are more students than seats. If they have a grade where there is space available, as a zone school I thought they had to take a kid so long as they live in the zone. As for finding low income kids, if they advertised in parts of the zone that have lower-income residents, the odds are they'll get lower income kids. Its the same method that charters use. Hang flyers in the lobby of community centers, in apartment buildings, etc and say "we have space for this number of kids in these grades" and they might just show up.

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      thelambchop

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      stacey, thanks, good to know. it seems like there is bound to be some kind of politics wherever lots of parents are involved, so i'm prepared!

      homeowner - it was my impression that enrollment is rising but that the neighborhood is changing. i haven't seen any suggestion that the school is "losing" zoned low-income kids or that there are significant pockets of low-income families that aren't attending ps9 who would attend based on a flyer...that's the kind of thing a marketing budget might show you, but my impression is that the DOE does not give out that kind of demographic information. it's an interesting idea, though...anyone from the PS9 PTA out there...??

      as a PSA - here's how PS9 enrollment seems to be working this year (DOE seems to change rules constantly, so it seems wise to check with the school):
      pre-k is done initially on a centralized DOE computer system, first priority for admission goes to zoned siblings and then zoned non-siblings, then non-zoned sibs in district, etc. school is not initially involved. there are 50-ish pre-k seats at ps9, lots go to siblings. then the school keeps its own wait list and offers seats from that list sometime in summer.
      k-5: admissions to general ed classes are based on residential zone pretty much how homeowner says. in addition to gen ed, there is a dual language class starting in kindergarten; admissions to that are handled by the school - half spanish-speakers and half non-spanish speakers, testing for spanish speakers and then lottery if there are more applicants than seats. i think non-spanish-speaking kids can only get in at kindergarten, but i'm not sure how it works.

      there is also one so-called "talented and gifted" class in each grade starting with K and the DOE handles the test (sign up in october, test in january) and the admissions, which are not based on zone but based on district and test score. once a kid tests into g&t, they can stay in that class until they leave ps9. spots sometimes open up when people relocate, and admissions for open seats are again done by DOE based on district (not zone) and test score...

      the DOE certainly does not like to make this easy for parents!

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      pnlop

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      thelambchop has done the homework, it is pretty close to what the process is. Both my kids attend PS9, I have been on the PTA, and it is a wonderful school to support. It is more than just a school, it is a community and family. Currently there are still out of zone kids accepted to the school while space is there. It will become tighter with time as the school is growing every year. The budget cuts are drastic, but what is amazing about the school is they do the best they can with what they have, and thanks to many parents and guardians volunteering, it alleviates a lot of the stress on the staff. The neighborhood has been more than generous with donations, and the school is so grateful for all that you do.

      A really great way to give to the school is to help with the teacher's wish lists on Donors Choose. Check back often as requests are posted all through the year. They are taxt deductible.

      http://www.donorschoose.org/donors/search.html?state=NY&community=884:1&school=518

    16. whynot_31
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      https://www.facebook.com/PS9PTO

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    17. maggie
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      I posted earlier about the PS9 Carnival, and we hope to see you all there! In addition to the facebook site, PS9 has a pretty awesome website: ps9brooklyn.org; it's being updated regularly to catch up with the beginning of the school year, but it is a great resource for learning more about the school, including this year's schedule of open houses.

      If you are interested in learning more about families' experiences at PS9, you are also welcome to send a note to AskAPS9Parent@gmail.com. The PTO will connect you up with a veteran PS9 parent who can help you answer your questions about the school!

    18. raulism
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      Last night, the Brooklyn Reform coalition held a mayoral forum. Our local club, Prospect Heights Democrats for Reform asked about the loss of Title I funding for PS9. Here are what the candidates said about our local school:

      http://youtu.be/1sg-ISgTeS8

      Some interesting answers- having a new mayor will definitely change our situation, hopefully for the better.

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      pnlop

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      Thanks raulism for posting the video!


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