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The last couple of days I have noticed dead starlings along Eastern Parkway and Plaza Street West. This morning it dawned on me the things were't cold or old, they were hitting the glass. Hang some curtains people!
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Subject: Re: Richard Meier the bird killer
newcolonist » The last couple of days I have noticed dead starlings along Eastern Parkway and Plaza Street West. This morning it dawned on me the things were't cold or old, they were hitting the glass. Hang some curtains people!
Starlings are a non native species. You can go outside with a baseball bat and kill as many as you like. They and the house sparrow (English sparrow) are responsible for the decline of more interesting native species, such as the Eastern Bluebird and Purple Martin to name a couple. Kill them all, let God sort them out! -
the sticker shock did them in first then they hit the glassdestination: roam
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who needs the farmers market when you can get tasty international bird for free... can someone say squab?
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Subject: non-native species
I'd venture most people in Brooklyn today are a non-native species."Restore human legs as a means of travel. Pedestrians rely on food for fuel and need no special parking facilities."
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Subject: Re: Richard Meier the bird killer
modsquad » [quote="newcolonist"]The last couple of days I have noticed dead starlings along Eastern Parkway and Plaza Street West. This morning it dawned on me the things were't cold or old, they were hitting the glass. Hang some curtains people!
Starlings are a non native species. You can go outside with a baseball bat and kill as many as you like. They and the house sparrow (English sparrow) are responsible for the decline of more interesting native species, such as the Eastern Bluebird and Purple Martin to name a couple. Kill them all, let God sort them out![/quote] There. All done sorting. What else do you want me to do?
Why attack God? He may be as miserable as we are.
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The city might monitor clusters of dead bird populations, to look for West Nile Virus or other bird diseases. You could call 311 to find out who to contact if you see large groupings of dead birds (maybe ten or more is my guess). I don't know much about starlings but it could be the cold weather that got them too.
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Karl the Druid » the sticker shock did them in first then they hit the glass
No kidding! My buddy and i went in there for shit's and giggles to see a 1 bedroom on the 2nd floor...when the sales lady asked if we were interested, i asked the price and she gave me some crazy number like 900,000. I was like, i was interested...and now i am going to take that interest and kill it because that # is not in my books! haha Besides, i like where i live now...i don't need some $900,000 tiny ass apartment...id rather go upstate and get a huge house and tons of property for that money...shit, maybe less.“We got a safe in the trunk with money in a stack With dice in the front and Brooklyn's in the back – No Sleep til Brooklyn” -
They should get these: http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/01/21/ot-090121-bird-decals.html?ref=rss
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Karl the Druid » the sticker shock did them in first then they hit the glass
HAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!giggity giggity -
Subject: Re: non-native species
newcolonist » I'd venture most people in Brooklyn today are a non-native species.
Sadly true H"She watched him turn and walk out of the park, and she wondered about him all of the rest of the day, this strange man with the intense look, who stood in the middle of the park, in love with it."
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Subject: Re: non-native species
brooklynboy3 » [quote="newcolonist"]I'd venture most people in Brooklyn today are a non-native species.
Sadly true H[/quote] Why sad? Isn't that what this country is all about? I don't think anyone here is "native".Have character, don't be a character. -
And to some extent the non-natives are responsible for the demise of the natives, so don't pick on the birds!"Restore human legs as a means of travel. Pedestrians rely on food for fuel and need no special parking facilities."
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Subject: Re: non-native species
raisedeyebrow » [quote="brooklynboy3"][quote="newcolonist"]I'd venture most people in Brooklyn today are a non-native species.
Sadly true H[/quote] Why sad? Isn't that what this country is all about? I don't think anyone here is "native".[/quote] Colonizing is not just isolated to this country. Through out history, one group or another has been pushed out, killed or absorbed into the colonizing group. It's what people do. It's only "sad" for the person who gets the short end of the stick.Why attack God? He may be as miserable as we are.
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Subject: Re: non-native species
GOD » [quote="raisedeyebrow"][quote="brooklynboy3"][quote="newcolonist"]I'd venture most people in Brooklyn today are a non-native species.
Sadly true H[/quote] Why sad? Isn't that what this country is all about? I don't think anyone here is "native".[/quote] Colonizing is not just isolated to this country. Through out history, one group or another has been pushed out, killed or absorbed into the colonizing group. It's what people do. It's only "sad" for the person who gets the short end of the stick.[/quote] Yes. However, this is true not only on a scale as significant as when it applies to the lines of culture, race, and species. It also plays a part in more trivial things like where you went to high school or your work place. It is kind of a natural progression of anything. I agree it is sad if the individual is mistreated or if it is the result of negligence.Have character, don't be a character. -
The Meier building is on Plaza Street East, not West.
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Subject: dead birds
This is not a natural phenomenon. The birds were poisoned to cull the amount of starlings. Last week in Jersey, they were literally dropping from the sky like rocks and dead before landing. It was some horrible government idea and it seems to take between 9-24 hours to kill them after they eat the poison. One woman found 150 dead birds on her lawn and the town and state says it up to her to remove them (even though they killed them.) Our ever forward thinking government at work. I'll see if I can find the info to fill in the blanks as to what they used and the actual reason for it. The ridiculous thing is they say it only kills the starlings. Not your cat or other wildlife that might eat it afterwards. Idiots.
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Subject: dead birds
OK. I found the article about culling the starlings. These are European Starlings that the govenment said have become too invasive, pushing other birds from their nests when breeding and eating grain at farms. When they relieve themselves in the area of the grain, it makes it inedible for the farm animals, costing more for the farmer to replace the compromised grain and spreading diseases. They didn't elaborate on what diseases. It seems that in it's infinite wisdom, the USDA decided to use a pesticide called DRC-1339 on the birds in Jersey down by Princeton. They swear it is inert once consumed by the birds and is metabolized. I'm sure. What they didn't take into consideration was that birds don't always roost where they eat. So the birds ate grain at a farm in that area and flew in all directions home. Without cluing anyone into what they did, birds started falling from the sky across central New Jersey and, apparantly, Brooklyn as well. Naturally, people were alarmed at the results since the USDA also forgot to tell anyone, including Franklin Township where they did the poisoning. And they did it on a Friday, so no one was around to pick up the phone when they started ringing off of the hooks over the weekend. Now they're giving a "Whoops!" kind of reaction to all who are appalled at their stupidity. And they are offering to help pick up the thousands of birds they killed in the process. But how do they know that only starlings were effected?? Once again, our government at work and at it's worst... -
Dakotas way, can you post a link to this article? Starlings are a pest, responsible for pushing native birds out of NYC ever since they were artificially introduced in Green Wood Cemetery back in the 1800's. Starling "murmurations" have been responsible for plane crashes at Stewart Air Base in Newburgh and I think at Login in Boston. Go look at the empty Purple Martin house in Gramercy Square. Starlings and house sparrows, both British interlopers, are responsible for the the Martin's demise. "The only good Starling is a dead Starling".
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modsquad » Dakotas way, can you post a link to this article? Starlings are a pest, responsible for pushing native birds out of NYC ever since they were artificially introduced in Green Wood Cemetery back in the 1800's. Starling "murmurations" have been responsible for plane crashes at Stewart Air Base in Newburgh and I think at Login in Boston. Go look at the empty Purple Martin house in Gramercy Square. Starlings and house sparrows, both British interlopers, are responsible for the the Martin's demise. "The only good Starling is a dead Starling".
Ahem Brother.
Why attack God? He may be as miserable as we are.
- Erik Satie -
GOD » Ahem Brother.
Fuck Dog! are you dyslexic 2? -
modsquad » [quote="GOD"] Ahem Brother.
Fuck Dog! are you dyslexic 2?[/quote] Just clearing my throat.
Why attack God? He may be as miserable as we are.
- Erik Satie -
Subject: dead starlings
I would post the article, but unfortunately I'm not that savvy. But with that said, I did see something on the Comcast home page that addressed this issue, so it may be on other websites. I'm not saying the birds weren't an ongoing problem. Just that the USDA should have thought ahead when they poisoned them not knowing where they were going to drop dead (like straight out of the sky) and telling anyone in the area they were going to do the culling and the impending results so people wouldn't panic. -
Starlings make great pets! If only we could popularize them as pets, we could watch the population plummet. A well cared for pet starling is much prettier than the dirty greasy-looking street bird. They do have this annoying and painful habit of sticking their beaks into your ear canal and opening up as if to catch a worm, but if you can keep them away from your ears then everything's cool. You have to catch them when they are brown fledglings with dark beaks and tame them. I dream of having one but bird catchers are strongly discouraged in city parks. Mozart had one and taught it to sing snippets of his piano concertos. Starlings are excellent mimics.
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As for the Meier building, wait until spring when the warblers, etc start coming up from the tropics. You're going to find tiny colourful yellow bodies at the foot of that building, especially if you get up early before maintenance cleans them up, lol And I thought the big building at Underhill and Eastern Parkway was a bird killer. I have photographed ovenbirds, red eyed vireos and seen northern parulas killed there, among others. Foggy nights are especially deadly for migrating birds.
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I don't buy this native vs. non-native argument. It's not a reason to kill a species. And also it's true, "we" are non-native. As for glass buildings, yeah, you would think, esp. that one so near the park, there would be some thought given to this!!
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