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    1. carnivore
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      http://fort-greene.thelocal.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/the-day-atlantic-terminal-teen-ban/

      Hard to believe... It might make it less agonizing to go there. Although now that I won't go to Target, I have little reason to go there anyway.
    2. booklaw
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      What have I missed about Target? Why won't you shop there now?

      Never mind, I found it:
      Target Boycott Movement Grows Following Donation to Support "Antigay" Candidate
    3. whynot_31
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      Who will work at Target now that they have banned teenagers?
      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    4. whyfi
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      Subject: Re: Teenagers being banned from the Atlantic Mall?

      Carnivore » http://fort-greene.thelocal.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/the-day-atlantic-terminal-teen-ban/

      Hard to believe... It might make it less agonizing to go there. Although now that I won't go to Target, I have little reason to go there anyway.

      What about the new Applebee's?
      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.
    5. trainsmoke deleon
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      If I recall correctly, the reason the older building was designed with such an unpleasant layout was to deter kids from hanging out there. This mall keeps getting more and more awesome.
    6. carnivore
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      Subject: Re: Teenagers being banned from the Atlantic Mall?

      WhyFi » [quote="Carnivore"]http://fort-greene.thelocal.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/the-day-atlantic-terminal-teen-ban/

      Hard to believe... It might make it less agonizing to go there. Although now that I won't go to Target, I have little reason to go there anyway.

      What about the new Applebee's?[/quote]

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    7. xlizellx
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      one of the malls near my parents house has the same rule as well. Certain stores --- Hot Topic, for example --- don't get as much business as they had, but it is certainly less annoying and apparently shop lifting has gone down too. Not to say all teenagers are bad -- but hanging out at the mall for hours on end was something us suburban kids did and it got taken away from us too.
    8. whyfi
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      Subject: Re: Teenagers being banned from the Atlantic Mall?

      Carnivore » ಠ_ಠ

      You're more of a Buffalo Wild Wings kind of guy?

      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.
    9. jack krohn
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      My first reaction was to celebrate, but, despite my cynicism expressed in the about teens, there are many "good kids" and it's unfair to ban them all based on the actions of a few. Oh well, I'll still shot at Target weekly, so, teens or no teens, they have my business.
    10. dewalt_russ
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      After the blog post, the Times decided to go all traditional on the story.

      It took them three reporters to write this damn thing. I can't tell you how many shootings in Queens I've covered where they didn't bother to send anyone.
    11. karl the druid
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    12. armchair_warrior
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      what joke bans ha. i was avoiding bans at toyrus when i was a kid. they didn't allow kids to go in without parents. so if we saw asian folks with kids we just ran ahead of them. security think we are with family. if we had a white friend along. we wait for a white family. lol just walk ahead of them alittle bit.
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    13. whynot_31
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      Ah, the good old days: violence in the Fulton Mall, back before the Atlantic Mall existed. A commercial strip so valuable they left the second floors vacant.
      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    14. modsquad2.0
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      Now, I know all you Brooklynians are the right kind of parents. I'm gonna be perfectly frank. Would ya like to know what kinda conversation goes on while they're loafin' around that Mall? They're tryin' out Bevo, tryin' out cubebs, Tryin' out Tailor Mades like Cigarette Feends! And braggin' all about how they're gonna cover up a tell-tale breath with Sen-Sen. One fine night, they leave the Mall, heading for the dance at the Armory! Libertine men and Scarlet women! And Rag-time, shameless music that'll grab your son and your daughter with the arms of a jungle animal instinct! Mass-staria! Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground!

      Brooklynians, lemme tell you what I mean. Ya got one, two, three, four, five, six pockets in a table. Pockets that mark the difference between a gentlemen and a Bum, with a capital "B," and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool! And all week long your Brooklyn youth'll be frittern away, I say your young men'll be frittern! Frittern away their noontime, suppertime, choretime too! Get the ball in the pocket, Never mind gittin' dandelions pulled or the screen door patched or the beefsteak pounded. Never mind pumpin' any water 'til your parents are caught with the cistern empty on a Saturday night and that's trouble, oh, yes we got lots and lots a' trouble. I'm thinkin' of the kids in the knickerbockers, shirt-tail young ones, peekin' in the pool hall window after school, look, folks!

      Right here in Brooklyn.
    15. jack krohn
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      Do you have health insurance? If so, all plans offer coverage for substance-abuse treatment, you Jack Kerouac wannabe.
    16. mamacita
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      modsquad2.0 » Now, I know all you Brooklynians are the right kind of parents. I'm gonna be perfectly frank. Would ya like to know what kinda conversation goes on while they're loafin' around that Mall? They're tryin' out Bevo, tryin' out cubebs, Tryin' out Tailor Mades like Cigarette Feends! And braggin' all about how they're gonna cover up a tell-tale breath with Sen-Sen. One fine night, they leave the Mall, heading for the dance at the Armory! Libertine men and Scarlet women! And Rag-time, shameless music that'll grab your son and your daughter with the arms of a jungle animal instinct! Mass-staria! Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground!

      Brooklynians, lemme tell you what I mean. Ya got one, two, three, four, five, six pockets in a table. Pockets that mark the difference between a gentlemen and a Bum, with a capital "B," and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool! And all week long your Brooklyn youth'll be frittern away, I say your young men'll be frittern! Frittern away their noontime, suppertime, choretime too! Get the ball in the pocket, Never mind gittin' dandelions pulled or the screen door patched or the beefsteak pounded. Never mind pumpin' any water 'til your parents are caught with the cistern empty on a Saturday night and that's trouble, oh, yes we got lots and lots a' trouble. I'm thinkin' of the kids in the knickerbockers, shirt-tail young ones, peekin' in the pool hall window after school, look, folks!

      Right here in Brooklyn.

      LOL!! Thanks MS!

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    17. karl the druid
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      Jack Krohn » Do you have health insurance? If so, all plans offer coverage for substance-abuse treatment, you Jack Kerouac wannabe.

      tch tch tch, jack with the master in... something

      the pop culture reference (above)

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    18. sweet tea
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      don't want a bunch of teenagers milling around? don't build a freakin' mall. sheesh.
      Bumping ancient threads with bot-like bullshit
    19. christina
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      Instead of banning teenagers can they not focus on restocking the shelves at Target? Keeping stuff off the floor? Opening another register maybe?
    20. modsquad2.0
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      Christina » Instead of banning teenagers can they not focus on restocking the shelves at Target? Keeping stuff off the floor? Opening another register maybe?

      This is why I love Park Sloppers.
    21. christina
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      Because we're so sloppy?
    22. karl the druid
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    23. modsquad2.0
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      Christina » Because we're so sloppy?

      Well yes, and the ability to cut through the bullshit like a cordless electric knife and get to the real meat of the matter. Aren't we all angry teenagers inside, bristling at the understocked Target shelves and long lines at the registers?
    24. raulism
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      Here are the rules posted at Atlantic Center. Be sure not to swear!

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/28363759@N08/5008025609/

      The reason that the new Atlantic Center rules are so ironic is that Ratner claimed his Environmental Impact Statement that the crime in the area was due to Pacific Street between Flatbush & 6th. His official documents say that Atlantic Center was safe, and that the only way to fight the blight of crime was to confiscate the property of individuals south of Atlantic.
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      sweet tea » don't want a bunch of teenagers milling around? don't build a freakin' mall. sheesh.

      Truer words have never been spoken, er, written. It's kinda sad. You'd think that in a place like Brooklyn the kids would find a more interesting place to hang out. We only hung out in malls because there was no place better to go.

      ETA: I don't go to AT/AC all that often, and when I do it's an in-and-out kind of thing. I don't like malls, I especially don't like that one, and therefore I don't linger any longer than I have to. Is the teenager loitering that big of a problem?

      Also, I don't know too much about retail, but it would seem to me that AT/AC would be prime retail territory for some upscale chains. There has got to be a huge concentration of professional women, with the incomes to match, living and working in the vicinity of AT/AC. Why haven't stores like Ann Taylor, Talbots, Banana Republic, etc. picked up on this?
    26. whynot_31
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      When I lived in the 'burbs, we smoked weed and had sex in the woods.

      Youth centers and malls just can't compete.
      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    27. drano
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      whynot_31 » Ah, the good old days: violence in the Fulton Mall, back before the Atlantic Mall existed. A commercial strip so valuable they left the second floors vacant.

      Oooohh, yeah. I see they dynamited that dirt mall that used to have the Toys "R" Us in it...that place made Atlantic Center/terminal look like Saks on Fifth.
    28. whynot_31
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      No, not the Alby Mall (or whatever it was called).

      ....the actual pedestrian mall that still runs from Flatbush to Boroum (sp?) Place.

      It used to be super violent on the regular....

      http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1998/05/19/1998-05-19_8_shot_at_fulton_mall____gun.html
      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    29. trainsmoke deleon
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      =D> to modsquad2.0. Nailed it.

      Also re: Albee Square Mall, some say it was violent but others say it was the doo-doo-def.

    30. goodprospect
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      I went to Atlantic Center Mall yesterday at about 5PM with my kids, who were hungry and wanted to eat at Subway.....I was bracing myself for the usual rowdy, slightly unpleasant experience there and in the mall in general but surprise - it was busy but not overly crowded and as pleasant a dining and Target shopping experience as it could be.....when I saw that we did not have to carefully walk around crowds of hyped-up teenagers, I remembered this thread. I find it a positive change......
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    31. drano
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      GoodProspect » I went to Atlantic Center Mall yesterday at about 5PM with my kids, who were hungry and wanted to eat at Subway.....I was bracing myself for the usual rowdy, slightly unpleasant experience there and in the mall in general but surprise - it was busy but not overly crowded and as pleasant a dining and Target shopping experience as it could be.....when I saw that we did not have to carefully walk around crowds of hyped-up teenagers, I remembered this thread. I find it a positive change......

      Atlantic Center, where roving gangs aren't a problem anymore!
    32. carmen
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      whynot_31 » When I lived in the 'burbs, we smoked weed and had sex in the woods.

      Youth centers and malls just can't compete.

      replace "woods" with "beach" and you have my teenage years.

      Kids these days with their loitering! They need to get back to good, ol'fashioned fun...like trying to find places to do it.
      whoa hey whoa hey whoa
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      Carmen » [quote="whynot_31"]When I lived in the 'burbs, we smoked weed and had sex in the woods. .

      replace "woods" with "beach" and you have my teenage years.[/quote]

      Hmm, wonder why they didn't name a cocktail after Whynot's teen years.
    34. whynot_31
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      I presume it is because "Sex in the Woods" with Whynot was not as figuratively and literally excellent as "Sex on the Beach" with Carmen.

      ....but Carmen and I may need get our high school partners together to engage in proper braggadatio.

      Carmen, Facebook leads me to believe that my old partners seem to doing pretty well. How are yours doing?
      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
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      I've never seen crowds of teens hanging out there.
    36. goodprospect
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      Stella, you've obviously never been there on a weekday between 4 and 6PM, then.....
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    37. whynot_31
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      New school year. New arena. Same problems. New Rules.

      For better or worse, the change on Nostrand is going to make the change on Franklin look minor.
    38. bkchickie
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      whynot_31 said:
      New school year. New arena. Same problems. New Rules

      Regarding the rule for proper clothing, that might knock out the entire Victoria's Secret location, no?

      And how will a Hooters fit into this?

    39. god
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      BKChickie

      And how will a Hooters fit into this?

      2 large round holes.

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    40. smokin joe
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      hypocritical much?

      no alcohol, except what they sell in their bars. no groups of four or more unless they're cops. no unacceptable conduct, but then there's the chuck e cheese.

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