http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program en-US Mon, 20 May 2013 08:30:05 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://brooklynian.com/forum/search.php http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-765041 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:46:38 +0000 whynot_31 765041@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>Feb 28, 2013<br /> The City Council seems to agree, "Let's set limits to how much we are going cooperate with the Feds"</p> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/nyregion/new-york-council-expands-restrictions-on-citys-cooperation-in-deportation-cases.html?ref=nyregion&amp;_r=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/nyregion/new-york-council-expands-restrictions-on-citys-cooperation-in-deportation-cases.html?ref=nyregion&amp;_r=0</a></p> <p>It remains to be seen whether the Feds will respond, in part because the restrcitions the City Council wants to implement aren't really different from the guidelines Homeland Security is supposed to be following ALREADY.</p> <p> <a href="http://www.ice.gov/doclib/detention-reform/pdf/detainer-policy.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ice.gov/doclib/detention-reform/pdf/detainer-policy.pdf</a> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-762330 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:15:58 +0000 whynot_31 762330@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>Some time has passed, and some city council members are now trying to find a new way to not participate:</p> <p><blockquote>City Considers Limiting Deportations</p> <p>Two bills set to be proposed in the City Council today would further limit the city's cooperation with federal programs that seek to deport immigrants. The bills are in response to The Secure Communities Act which mandates fingerprints taken at local jails are compared to a Department of Homeland Security database. Anyone who is deemed an illegal immigrant is then marked to be detained. If the City passes these laws it will strengthen its reputation as immigrant-friendly. Gov. Andrew Cuomo symbolically withdrew New York from the program earlier this year. “What we don’t want is New York City’s agencies having to participate in deporting people who present no risk and in fact may be adding a great deal to the City of New York,” Council Speaker Christine Quinn told the Times yesterday in an interview.<br /> </blockquote></p> <p>Source: Gotham Gazette, Dec 13, 2012 </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-754492 Tue, 15 May 2012 09:50:36 +0000 whynot_31 754492@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>whynot_31 <a href="http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-746205">said</a>:</cite><br /> The feds are growing more powerless by the day.</p> </blockquote> <p>It seems the Feds have since ate their Wheaties and/or Spinach. They now have successfully forced the NYC area participate.</p> <p><a href="http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2012/may/14/despite-opposition-ny-joins-feds-secure-communities-program/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2012/may/14/despite-opposition-ny-joins-feds-secure-communities-program/</a> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-746205 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:50:48 +0000 whynot_31 746205@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>The feds are growing more powerless by the day. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-746184 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:01:10 +0000 Boygabriel 746184@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>Awesome.</p> <p>If Obama's not going to lead on this issue, I'm glad our local government will. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-746168 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:53:14 +0000 whynot_31 746168@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>Nov 4, 2011 The City Draws a Line</p> <p><blockquote>With states such as Arizona and Alabama passing immigration laws that go far beyond those of the federal government, the New York City Council weighed in on the issue yesterday and took a decidedly different stand.</p> <p>By an overwhelming majority, the council passed a bill sponsored by Melissa Mark-Viverito of Manhattan that would end the Department of Correction's policy of cooperating with federal efforts to deport undocumented immigrants. The bill, said by supporters to be the first of its kind in the country, will end two decades of cooperation between the city jail system and federal immigration authorities, now called Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE.</p> <p>This bill, Intro 656, Mark-Viverito said shortly before its passage, "sends a strong message we will no longer be complicit in this country's broken immigration system."</p> <p>City Council Speaker Christine Quinn cited another message as well. "When signed by the mayor," she said, "the entire government of New York will send a message the city of New York is supportive of, friendly to and welcoming to immigrants."<br /> Detained and Deported</p> <p>Under the current system, the city gives names of people arrested -- whether or not they are convicted of any crime and regardless of the severity of that crime -- to the federal agency, which then can check whether the person is here legally. If the person is undocumented, ICE can then request that he or she be detained for additional time so ICE can arrange to transfer the immigrant to a federal facility to await deportation proceedings.</p> <p>Of the people detained under this system in 2010, Quinn said, almost half -- 49.5 percent -- had no prior criminal record. She estimated that some 1,000 to 1,500 people deported in 2010 would not have been detained if the measure passed yesterday had been in effect.</p> <p>Overall, according to council, 13,295 people born outside the United States spent time in city jails in fiscal year 2010. ICE took custody of 2,522 of those people for possible deportation.</p> <p>In passing the bill, council member cited what they saw as various abuses of the immigration and deportation system, including detention of people in facilities far from New York and deportation of people who came to the United States with their parents as small children.</p> <p>The bill singles nine categories of people, including possible terrorists, whose names would still be turned over to ICE. In Quinn's eyes, this removes any public safety concerns.<br /> The Administration's Shift</p> <p>The bill now goes on to the mayor, who in a reversal of previous policy, is expected to sign it.</p> <p>In response to criticism of the cooperation earlier this year, the mayor's office maintained helping ICE improved public safety. John Feinblatt, the mayor’s chief policy advisor and criminal justice coordinator, went so far as to write a letter to the Times raising the specter of terrorism. "As our country has learned tragically, when government agencies fail to cooperate and share information, not only is public safety compromised, so is national security," he said.</p> <p>With more than 30 City Council members, including Quinn, supporting a change in the policy, the issue seemed sure to incite a rare public clash between the Bloomberg administration and the council. But in October, the mayor changed his position, indicating he would support a bill limiting the cooperation with ICE. Feinblatt then told the Times that the council bill "strikes the right balance."</p> <p>The Bloomberg administration "truly came around in offering their support," Mark-Viverito said.<br /> The Opposition</p> <p>Some council members, though, have doubts. Four members voted against the bill though only one – Peter Vallone of Queens, who has emerged as a frequent opponent of Quinn's policies in recent months, spoke out against it.</p> <p>"This will make us less safe," Vallone said, faulting the measure for not making a distinction between violent crime on one hand and less serious offenses, including misdemeanors on the other. Under it, he said, a man recently arrested for assaulting a woman would have been released. "With this law," Vallone complained. "this groper would be out on the street groping our women."</p> <p>As the vote drew to a close, Councilmember Lew Fidler weighed what he saw as pros and cons. "The immigrations system in this country is badly broken," he said and so, "in an effort to be compassionate and fair, … we will be endangering public safety."</p> <p>Having said that., Fidler said, he would abstain in protest of federal immigration laws.</blockquote></p> <p>source: <a href="http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/searchlight/20111104/203/3630" rel="nofollow">http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/searchlight/20111104/203/3630</a> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-745316 Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:18:17 +0000 whynot_31 745316@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>A path to citizenship for illegal immigrants is laid?</p> <p><blockquote>the move is part of a larger strategy to lobby Congress to pass a version of the Dream Act, which would give students who completed two years of college or military service a path to citizenship.</blockquote> </p> <p><a href="http://gothamist.com/2011/10/22/albany_expected_to_pass_agenda_that.php" rel="nofollow">http://gothamist.com/2011/10/22/albany_expected_to_pass_agenda_that.php</a> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-739417 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:44:26 +0000 whynot_31 739417@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>The feds have now stated they will revise their policies.</p> <p>Much to the dismay of groups who want deportation for all illegal immigrants, ICE will focus their deportation efforts on persons in the country illegally who commit offenses like violent crime while here.</p> <p>source: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/08/18/deportation.reviews/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/08/18/deportation.reviews/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1</a></p> <p>Immigration may become a major issue in the 2012 race. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-737796 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:55:29 +0000 whynot_31 737796@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>With the city’s assistance, immigration authorities annually detain and deport thousands of inmates charged with a range of offenses, from misdemeanors for theft to felony drug dealing.</p> <p>But now the City Council speaker, Christine C. Quinn, wants to curtail this practice by permitting the jail to cooperate with the federal immigration authorities only in limited circumstances. </blockquote></p> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/02/nyregion/nyc-bill-would-curb-jails-role-in-deportation.html?_r=1&amp;ref=nyregion" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/02/nyregion/nyc-bill-would-curb-jails-role-in-deportation.html?_r=1&amp;ref=nyregion</a> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-734635 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:17:20 +0000 whynot_31 734635@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>It should be interesting, because it will provide the guise of being "non-political". </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-734633 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:03:55 +0000 Boygabriel 734633@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/list-of-state-immigration-laws-blocked-in-federal-court-grows-longer" rel="nofollow">http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/list-of-state-immigration-laws-blocked-in-federal-court-grows-longer</a> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-734601 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:15:07 +0000 Boygabriel 734601@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>The Supreme court seems the ultimate destination </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-734578 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:57:55 +0000 whynot_31 734578@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>The conversation begins? The line is drawn?</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/27/georgia.immigration.lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t1" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/27/georgia.immigration.lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t1</a></p> <p><blockquote>Atlanta (CNN) -- A federal judge issued a preliminary injunction Monday temporarily blocking key provisions of a new Georgia law that aims to crack down on illegal immigration.</p> <p>Most parts of the law, known as HB 87, were scheduled to go into effect Friday.<br /> U.S. District Judge Thomas Thrash Jr.'s ruling blocks enforcement of two of the most controversial sections of the law, while allowing other parts of it to move forward.<br /> "State and local law enforcement officers and officials have no authorization to arrest, detain or prosecute anyone based upon sections 7 and 8 of HB 87 while this injunction remains in effect," Thrash ruled.</p> <p>Those sections allow police to inquire about immigration status when questioning suspects in certain criminal investigations. They also would allow the imposition of prison sentences for people who knowingly transport or harbor illegal immigrants during the commission of a crime.</p> <p>"The apparent legislative intent is to create such a climate of hostility, fear, mistrust and insecurity that all illegal aliens will leave Georgia," Thrash wrote.<br /> In his 45-page ruling, Thrash cited a previous court decision that said preliminary injunctions were in the public interest "when civil rights are at stake."</p> <p>Although his ruling was a victory for the plaintiffs, he also tossed out some of their arguments at the state's request, a point stressed by Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens soon after the decision.</p> <p>"I appreciate the speed with which Judge Thrash ruled, given the complexity of the issues. I am pleased with the dismissal of the 4th Amendment, 14th Amendment, 'Right to Travel,' and Georgia constitutional claims by the plaintiffs -- even after this ruling, 21 of the 23 sections of HB 87 will go into effect as planned," he wrote in a statement.<br /> Olens said his office will appeal the judge's ruling regarding sections 7 and 8.</p> <p>The office of Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal, which supports the law, also weighed in on the decision.</p> <p>"Beyond refusing to help with our state's illegal immigration problem, the federal government is determined to be an obstacle. The state of Georgia narrowly tailored its immigration law to conform with existing federal law and court rulings," said Brian Robinson, the governor's deputy chief of staff for communications. "Georgians can rest assured that this battle doesn't end here."</p> <p>The Georgia lawsuit is the latest battle in a nationwide skirmish between state and federal officials over who controls immigration enforcement.</p> <p>Arizona's controversial law aimed at cracking down on illegal immigration catapulted the issue onto the national stage last year, drawing a lawsuit from the U.S. Department of Justice, which argues the law is unconstitutional.</p> <p>In April, a three-judge panel on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the Justice Department and against Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed Arizona's law last year. Brewer announced last month that the state would appeal directly to the U.S. Supreme Court.</blockquote> </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-732205 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:36:01 +0000 whynot_31 732205@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>at a minimum, this may make ICE simply make sure it is only deporting illegal immigrant who are only criminals. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-732182 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:20:36 +0000 Boygabriel 732182@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p><blockquote> it looks like we might have to have a national conversation on this issue.</blockquote></p> <p>!!!!! </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-732166 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:19:28 +0000 whynot_31 732166@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>booklaw <a href="http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-730940">said</a>:</cite><br /> Props to Illinois! May NY not be far behind!<br /> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/us/04raids.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=1&amp;emc=eta1">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/us/04raids.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=1&amp;emc=eta1</a></p> </blockquote> <p>Booklaw-</p> <p>Your wish (and mine) has come true. </p> <p>NY State has informed ICE that it will no longer participate.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/02/nyregion/cuomo-pulls-new-york-from-us-fingerprint-checks.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/02/nyregion/cuomo-pulls-new-york-from-us-fingerprint-checks.html?_r=1</a></p> <p>....gasp, it looks like we might have to have a national conversation on this issue. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-731492 Mon, 23 May 2011 09:14:23 +0000 whynot_31 731492@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>whynot_31 <a href="http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-731203">said</a>:</cite><br /> Illegal immigration doesn't bother me, but randomly deporting illegal immigrants does.</p> <p>Surely we could have a method of sorting that goes beyond being "unlucky"</p> </blockquote> <p>As if on cue, <a href="http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/Albany/20110523/204/3531">this article </a>was published today about whether <strong>NYS </strong>can withdraw from ICE's "Secure Communities" program.</p> <p>As early as this week, Gov. Andrew Cuomo could decide whether New York should withdraw from Secure Communities, a program that has local law enforcement agencies share digital fingerprints of those arrested with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE.</p> <p><blockquote><cite>article&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;</cite>Some members of the legislature along with immigration advocates are pressuring Cuomo to leave the program. They charge Safe Communities has resulted in unnecessary deportations and has made many immigrants reluctant to go to the police. </blockquote></p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-731306 Thu, 19 May 2011 14:30:49 +0000 PragmaticGuy 731306@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <blockquote><p><cite>WhyFi <a href="http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program/page/2#post-731207">said</a>:</cite><br /> Serious question - in other countries, would doctors prescribe 7 pills or would they tell you to change your diet and exercise more? I get the feeling that the health care system in place is in love with the magic pill. </p></blockquote> <p>I do exercise quite a bit and I have changed my diet but still the meds are the only things that really help. But thanks for the thought. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-731260 Thu, 19 May 2011 09:10:20 +0000 Boygabriel 731260@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p><strong>booklaw</strong>, have you read the two big New Yorker articles on our health care system from 2009?</p> <p>Fascinating, IMO</p> <p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/12/14/091214fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/12/14/091214fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all</a></p> <p>I'm definitely going to check out that doc. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/brooklyn-politics/illinois-gov-withdraws-from-federal-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-program#post-731253 Thu, 19 May 2011 00:48:00 +0000 vidro3 731253@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/18/977187/-Fat-Bottomed-Girls!No-Checkup-For-You!?via=siderec">article</a></p> <p>trying again. </p>