http://brooklynian.com/forum/the-lounge-random-stuff/you-fing-kiding-me-right-more-than-3k-to-house-homeless-in-a-room en-US Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:56:24 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://brooklynian.com/forum/search.php http://brooklynian.com/forum/the-lounge-random-stuff/you-fing-kiding-me-right-more-than-3k-to-house-homeless-in-a-room#post-764370 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:00:32 +0000 whynot_31 764370@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>So many factors!</p> <p>DHS is so desperate for space.<br /> DHS is doing a sloppy job finding vendors<br /> The Mayor is a lame duck.</p> <p>...these things are all paying a part. Today, the Comptroller ruled that DHS has violated City contracting rules:</p> <p><a href="http://www.nynp.biz/index.php/breaking-news/13814-comptroller-rejects-dhs-contract-for-bronx-shelter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nynp.biz/index.php/breaking-news/13814-comptroller-rejects-dhs-contract-for-bronx-shelter.html</a></p> <p>The gloves are off. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/the-lounge-random-stuff/you-fing-kiding-me-right-more-than-3k-to-house-homeless-in-a-room#post-764327 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:44:35 +0000 whynot_31 764327@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>Actually, this is a case of "who can meet the demand first", far more than "who has friends in procurement at DHS". </p> <p>Asa result of court settlements, there is an established "right to shelter" in NYC.</p> <p>Inflation in the rental market, aggravated by Hurricane Sandy, has caused an explosion in the "shelter homeless" (Note: these folks are different than the people with mental illness and addictions that you see on the subways and on the streets, the "street homeless"). </p> <p>However, court decisions mandate that DHS can only house people in armories in dire emergencies, and for very short periods of time. As dire as the present situation is, it falls short of the standard that would allow the city to use armories.</p> <p>As a result, there is presently a rush to create additional shelter for the "shelter homeless" population:</p> <p>a. NYC is helping non-profits create shelters.</p> <p>b. For profit landlords are desperately creating vacant apartments (as discussed above)</p> <p>c. Non-profits are now placing the people funded by DHS in beds that would have gone to people who were working, but are low income.</p> <p>While everyone is working really hard, guess which option is often the fastest? </p> <p>Answer: b.</p> <p>....this is about very little else. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/the-lounge-random-stuff/you-fing-kiding-me-right-more-than-3k-to-house-homeless-in-a-room#post-764326 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:29:16 +0000 armchair_warrior 764326@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>The powers that be their friends must need money for rentals. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/the-lounge-random-stuff/you-fing-kiding-me-right-more-than-3k-to-house-homeless-in-a-room#post-764320 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:31:49 +0000 whynot_31 764320@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>AW-<br /> Not only that, if you read closely, they are causing landlords to pay people who pay very little rent and are STABLE to vacate their apartments.</p> <p>I can't be the only one who thinks where ever they move to isn't going to be as safe and stable, and those payouts aren't going to last real long.</p> <p>....I'd love to track them and see how many end up in some city's shelter system for the first time EVER, in a few years. </p> http://brooklynian.com/forum/the-lounge-random-stuff/you-fing-kiding-me-right-more-than-3k-to-house-homeless-in-a-room#post-764319 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:28:31 +0000 armchair_warrior 764319@http://brooklynian.com/forum/ <p>I'm sure they could do it for even less have they seen rents in far away corners of NYC? its cheap!!!</p> <p>The city’s Department of Homeless Services pays many times the amount the rooms would usually rent for — spending over $3,000 a month for each threadbare room without a bathroom or kitchen — because of an acute shortage in shelters for homeless men and women. </p> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/nyregion/for-some-landlords-real-money-in-the-homeless.html?ref=nyregion" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/nyregion/for-some-landlords-real-money-in-the-homeless.html?ref=nyregion</a> </p>