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    1. I was walking around my neighborhood looking for the cheapest window screens I could get when I walked into one of the Bodegas I usually don't frequent, due to distance.
      Now, I have two adorable Siamese babies, that are wiped down with baby wipes and brushed bi-weekly and taken to the vet annually, so my issue is not with having cats.

      The bodega I walked into had a long haired cat that seemed to be shedding inordinately all over the store items, and when it got up to move, I noticed some feces/cat litter stuck to its tail.

      It finally went and sat on the paper towels (good that they were encased in plastic but still).

      My questions Are: I see so many bodega cats, and some of them don't appear to be in the best shape. Is this sanitary to have them in stores? Does the DOH allow this?

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      bohuma

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      Cats (and other companion animals) are illegal in food stores. Apparently the DOH considers a cat evidence of a rodent infestation. This is pretty shaky reasoning as mice usually move out when a cat moves in, and while rats are a match for a single cat they'll move out if more than one cat moves in. If that bodega owner isn't looking after his/her cat properly, there are probably other issues with that bodega and you might be best to avoid it. I generally don't shop in bodegas, but do occasionally buy ice and lottery tickets, neither of which is going to be affected by cats (or rodents for that matter.

      A lot of bodegas keep cats to keep the mice away from the food, most of the time they don't present any problems.

    3. alana
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      Although they are technically illegal to have it is difficult for them to enforce as the owner just claims the cat isnt theirs and will dump the kitty outside.

      Many bodegas dont bother to fix the cat or vet them and as they often go outside they are prone to illnesses like FLK and FIV.

      I would try to make a point to talk to the owner about the kitty to get a sense if they cared for it or not. I have TNR'ed several bodega cats with varying degrees of success as some did not provide any post-op care for the cats and they became ill post surgery but were left to die as they didnt bother to take to a vet so I had to rescue them myself and vet them myself while they just went out and got a new kitten.

      I would politey be nosy to see if the cat is fed, watered and has a litterbox, ask if it is fixed and vaccinated - sometimes they let them get pregnant and sell the kittens.

      If you think the cat is ill you can call the ASPCA on them but again they will just claim the cat isn't theirs and dump it on the street or take it to the ACC to be killed. It is hard to prove the cat is theirs if they claim otherwise and hard to get the A to take it seriously to investigate as laws are so weak. Take pics if you see an ill kitty with time/date stamps on them discretely for your own safety.

      Most bodega owners I have met are open to their cats being fixed and vaccinated through TNR as there is little to no cost to them. I think it's like $5-7 for the FVRCP vaccine and another $10 for flea medicine and if it's a boy a few more bucks for dust free litter to use post surgery. Some have even repaid me for my efforts but I don't bother to ask as fewer kittens being born for me to rescue is payment enough.

    4. Alana said:
      Although they are technically illegal to have it is difficult for them to enforce as the owner just claims the cat isnt theirs and will dump the kitty outside.

      Many bodegas dont bother to fix the cat or vet them and as they often go outside they are prone to illnesses like FLK and FIV.

      I would try to make a point to talk to the owner about the kitty to get a sense if they cared for it or not. I have TNR'ed several bodega cats with varying degrees of success as some did not provide any post-op care for the cats and they became ill post surgery but were left to die as they didnt bother to take to a vet so I had to rescue them myself and vet them myself while they just went out and got a new kitten.

      I would politey be nosy to see if the cat is fed, watered and has a litterbox, ask if it is fixed and vaccinated - sometimes they let them get pregnant and sell the kittens.

      If you think the cat is ill you can call the ASPCA on them but again they will just claim the cat isn't theirs and dump it on the street or take it to the ACC to be killed. It is hard to prove the cat is theirs if they claim otherwise and hard to get the A to take it seriously to investigate as laws are so weak. Take pics if you see an ill kitty with time/date stamps on them discretely for your own safety.

      Most bodega owners I have met are open to their cats being fixed and vaccinated through TNR as there is little to no cost to them. I think it's like $5-7 for the FVRCP vaccine and another $10 for flea medicine and if it's a boy a few more bucks for dust free litter to use post surgery. Some have even repaid me for my efforts but I don't bother to ask as fewer kittens being born for me to rescue is payment enough.

      I am going to go back to that place this Friday and offer to take it to the vet. It looked very sickly and was shedding so much. What bothers me is that pet owners like myself love and TAKE CARE of their cats (or dogs), but it seems that many of these bodega cats are barely kept alive. I have seen a few that were filthy and or badly in need of a check up. I don't mind bodega cats, I just think there needs to be some type of standard of care. I think many of these bodega owners just take cats off the street, and and offer them a bit of food, in exchange for mousing, but offer little or nothing in terms of actual care and upkeep. It seems unsanitary especially around food.

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    5. homeowner
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      I think that some bodega owners think of their cats as little more than barter tenants - i.e. they are given a place to stay in exchange for keeping the mice and bugs at bay. As a result you have some folks who don't do much of anything. Then you have the other end of the spectrum where the owners think of them as store pets and they get lots of food, love and treats. It used to be the same way with dogs many years ago when lots of businesses had guard dogs at night. Now that NYC is relatively safer, you don't see that much at all.

      Offering to help out with the kitty may be a good way of getting them to change the way they think about their cat (and make no mistake that animal is their responsibility). I think the bodega cats are the perfect solution. Cats are relatively clean animals when they are healthy and cared for properly, and they are an environmentally friendly way to keep vermin at bay. I'm much rather have a cat lay on my box of detergent than flies, rats, or roaches crawling on it.

    6. homeowner said:
      I think that some bodega owners think of their cats as little more than barter tenants - i.e. they are given a place to stay in exchange for keeping the mice and bugs at bay. As a result you have some folks who don't do much of anything. Then you have the other end of the spectrum where the owners think of them as store pets and they get lots of food, love and treats. It used to be the same way with dogs many years ago when lots of businesses had guard dogs at night. Now that NYC is relatively safer, you don't see that much at all.

      Offering to help out with the kitty may be a good way of getting them to change the way they think about their cat (and make no mistake that animal is their responsibility). I think the bodega cats are the perfect solution. Cats are relatively clean animals when they are healthy and cared for properly, and they are an environmentally friendly way to keep vermin at bay. I'm much rather have a cat lay on my box of detergent than flies, rats, or roaches crawling on it.

      I agree, except in the last couple of cases where I have seen some awfully neglected and mangy looking cats doing bodega guard duty. I am going to stop by that store today, with some literature on low cost pet care options

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    7. leozoeypiper
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      I have had great luck with bodega owners and letting me take their cat to get vetted. I have found that they won't necessarily do it themselves but they will let you take the cat and will often offer a donation for your efforts once you bring the cat back. It definitely feels good to help these cats out when you can.

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      reader

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      I think the DOH position on bodega cats is shortsighted, any place where food is stored would be better off with a
      non chemical rodent deterrent.


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