The bartender at Lookout Hill just told me it's their last night. I've never eaten there, so I can't vouch for their food, but they have one of the best bourbon selections I've ever seen.
Flexichick Windsor Terrorist
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 9623
Sun Sep 28, 08 7:17 pm EST
eh. Never even THOUGHT about eating there. That place has changed hands so many times since I've lived here (11 years) that I can't even keep count. _________________ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!
henrycurtis Regular
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 66 Location: Park Slope
Sun Sep 28, 08 8:35 pm EST
Well that didn't take long!
raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Sun Sep 28, 08 8:45 pm EST
Flexichick wrote:
eh. Never even THOUGHT about eating there. That place has changed hands so many times since I've lived here (11 years) that I can't even keep count.
Same here. Any restaurant -- Le Bernardin, Peter Luger Steakhouse, Katz's, and even Dunkin' Donuts -- that opens there will die. That location is cursed, haunted, and damned.
Their answering machine message says they are serving dinner starting at 5pm tonight.
Jamzer Lifer
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 911 Location: Park F'ing Slope
Mon Sep 29, 08 9:57 am EST
raw wrote:
Flexichick wrote:
eh. Never even THOUGHT about eating there. That place has changed hands so many times since I've lived here (11 years) that I can't even keep count.
Same here. Any restaurant -- Le Bernardin, Peter Luger Steakhouse, Katz's, and even Dunkin' Donuts -- that opens there will die. That location is cursed, haunted, and damned.
I loved the idea of having that location as a live music venue as the previous business was, but was annoyed with the food and drink purchase requirement to attend musical performances.
I don't buy it that this location is "cursed." This location has just had a string of bad restaurants. Look how well Barrio is doing and everyone said that location was cursed too. I don't know if this corner needs live music or not, but it does need a place that serves good food. The people will come if they serve good food.
anthonycm Dolemite's Inspiration
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 346
Mon Sep 29, 08 11:15 am EST
pastoralia wrote:
Their answering machine message says they are serving dinner starting at 5pm tonight.
Well, I'd be happy to find out that I was given bad info, as I normally don't like any business shut down and people out of work. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
RockerGirl77 numba one in tha hood, g
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 335 Location: 5th St
Mon Sep 29, 08 11:26 am EST
damn that was fast.
thekid Newbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 3
Mon Sep 29, 08 2:01 pm EST
shame. their stuff was pretty good. that pork blt was pretty awesome. they had friendly servers. the prices were pretty alright. i went there on saturday and was told it was to become some sort of mexican beach bar kind of thing. IMHO not really an improvement.
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Mon Sep 29, 08 2:47 pm EST
anyone remember Bibi's, the place that preceded Night and Day there? that must have last, at most, two months.
agreed that it's no curse. every concept has gone in there, at least since i've been in the neighborhood, has been uninteresting, at best. a "Mexican Beach Bar" is not going to be any better unless the food is superb, which the term "Mexican Beach Bar" already scores a couple of points against.
i wish i knew something about running a restaurant, as I'd open up my dream Cuban spot there in a second.
Old Time Brooklyn Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 634
Mon Sep 29, 08 3:04 pm EST
I barely saw more than 1 or 2 tables filled at a time in this joint. Good draft list though.
prezst Regular
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 146
Mon Sep 29, 08 3:21 pm EST
the place isn't necessarily cursed. a dry cleaners did great business there for years before high rents forced it out.
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1355
Mon Sep 29, 08 3:59 pm EST
please stop saying certain locations are cursed. it really makes you sound quite ignorant.
barrio is an excellent example of a location many said was "cursed" and it's now one of the most popular restaurants in park slope. it's about a quality product.
think before you speak, please. we have enough stupidity around us right now without adding this into the mix.
or maybe this location failed because you can see gowanus from the window?
Slopehead Dodging strollers
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 126 Location: lost on Carroll
Mon Sep 29, 08 4:31 pm EST
I just hope it doesn't sit vacant. A good corner spot like really sets the tone for the block.
sweet tea Cooler Ham
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 4960 Location: the jewish
Mon Sep 29, 08 4:33 pm EST
are there non-pork BLTs? really? _________________ Bumping ancient threads with bot-like bullshit
sjknoll Regular
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 179 Location: Kensington
Mon Sep 29, 08 4:47 pm EST
They are closed, just walked buy and the windows are all covered up.
raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Mon Sep 29, 08 8:08 pm EST
J0518 wrote:
agreed that it's no curse. every concept has gone in there, at least since i've been in the neighborhood, has been uninteresting, at best. a "Mexican Beach Bar" is not going to be any better unless the food is superb, which the term "Mexican Beach Bar" already scores a couple of points against.
the place isn't necessarily cursed. a dry cleaners did great business there for years before high rents forced it out.
Yep, used to use them. Then they left and Bibi's started the current string of restaurant failures.
henrycurtis Regular
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 66 Location: Park Slope
Mon Sep 29, 08 9:22 pm EST
Ralph's. I used them too. They had a big Doberman that walked around the store.
prezst Regular
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 146
Mon Sep 29, 08 10:45 pm EST
and the clock outside worked, no less
pitu Fake Buddhist
Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 6489 Location: Utopian Park Slope
Mon Sep 29, 08 11:19 pm EST
Isn't the clock still there?
The only thing that would make that location "cursed" is a prohibitive rent. None of the restaurants in that spot since the laundromat has offered a consistent quality of food that matched their prices.
In this nabe *still the land of take-out and eat out
in this economy, a place with more modest prices would do better . . .
good luck to the next crew
wasn't Lookout Hill a continuation of Biscuit, which was a continuation of Night and Day?
Zebra Regular
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 199
Mon Sep 29, 08 11:28 pm EST
pitu wrote:
wasn't Lookout Hill a continuation of Biscuit, which was a continuation of Night and Day?
That's right, which means it wasn't anyone's "dream." Just a kind of strategic venture by some people who apparently have a lot of money to give to interior decorators.
henrycurtis Regular
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 66 Location: Park Slope
Tue Sep 30, 08 11:22 am EST
I say bring some Washington Mutual ATMs.
Mamacita Stuck in the middle with you
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 7603
Tue Sep 30, 08 11:27 am EST
I vote for having a Dim Sum place there! _________________ (\__/)
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new2hood ...but not so much
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 774
Tue Sep 30, 08 11:40 am EST
Ooooh, oooooh, I second the dim sum idea!!!!!!
Flexichick Windsor Terrorist
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 9623
Tue Sep 30, 08 11:41 am EST
Dim sum = yum yum
I still want one of those salad places where I can say "sun dried tomatoes, artichocke hearts, grilled chicken, blue cheese crumbles, croutons and balsamic vinagrette, please" _________________ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1355
Tue Sep 30, 08 12:45 pm EST
I'm with you on that Flexichick. A place like Chop Chop on Smith Street would be great!!
I'm pushing for one up on 7th avenue at Berkeley Place where Diane Kane just vacated. It's the perfect little spot.
And by pushing, I mean dreaming...
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 608
Tue Sep 30, 08 2:19 pm EST
Dim Sum, Greek, Bahn Mi sandwich, or how about a Mooncake Diner outlet...they're expanding.
But, from what a poster above said it's going to be a Mexican Beach theme? Whatever the hell that is. Guess we'll have to wait until they close to get something actually good.
triebensee Regular
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 76 Location: Park Slope
Tue Sep 30, 08 7:35 pm EST
cuban chinese please, we don't have any cuban chinese in park slope _________________ www.hellgateharmonie.com
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Wed Oct 01, 08 10:57 am EST
triebensee wrote:
cuban chinese please, we don't have any cuban chinese in park slope
there's a dying breed. i remember those quite well as a kid in Jersey.
i think La Caridad 79 on 79th and Broadway, in Manhattan, is a real Cuban-Chinese place, with that awesome place on Columbus in the 80's (the name escapes me) being more of a south-american/Chinese place.
i don't know if you'll ever see a new Cuban-Chinese place open again, though.
We need a place that will serve me vaca frita in the Slope. real vaca frita. Victor's does it pretty well, Cuba on Thompson St. does it well, and Havana Alma de Cuba does it ok. Add the right little gimmicks and themes to the place (old guy rolling cigars, live music) and, damn, you're going to have one busy place in the Slope.
Zebra Regular
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 199
Wed Oct 01, 08 11:28 am EST
Vaca frita, yum... Hey, J0518, have you tried the vaca frita at Cafecito on Avenue C & 10th St.? My favorite.
Never really understood why no one can get it together to offer good Cuban food in NYC. Victor's is way too expensive & too touristy. Every other place I've tried has its own deficiencies. You can usually tell just from the rice & beans that they're not getting it right. Then you get improper marinading. Even the coffee is typically wrong - real Cuban restaurants don't give you sugar on the side; the coffee should be super-sweet to start with.
turtle95 think about it first
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 269 Location: South Slope-formerly of Windsor Terrace
Wed Oct 01, 08 12:06 pm EST
I've never had any issues with the Cuban food at Rincon Criollo, 40-09 Junction Blvd in Queens (1/2 block south of the 7 Train & Roosevelt Ave). I've eaten there with people born and raised in Cuba and they swear by it. I could eat a plate of rice there and be happy (but their vaca frita, chicken bits and other fried meats are delicious too).
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Wed Oct 01, 08 2:15 pm EST
Zebra wrote:
Vaca frita, yum... Hey, J0518, have you tried the vaca frita at Cafecito on Avenue C & 10th St.? My favorite.
Never really understood why no one can get it together to offer good Cuban food in NYC. Victor's is way too expensive & too touristy. Every other place I've tried has its own deficiencies. You can usually tell just from the rice & beans that they're not getting it right. Then you get improper marinading. Even the coffee is typically wrong - real Cuban restaurants don't give you sugar on the side; the coffee should be super-sweet to start with.
the issue, to me, is simple: there aren't that many Cubans in NYC, and too many non-Cubans tried to cash in when Cuban themed things were cool.
I've been to Cafecito twice. got served yellow rice and black beans the first time, which is usually sign #1 that there ain't any Cubans running the operation. i talked to the owner, though, and he was a pretty nice guy, and of Cuban descent, if i remember correctly. i think i remember the food being ok the second time i was there.
you're right on every single point, though. no one, other than the two village spots, and the overpriced Victor's, gets it right.
i haven't tried Rincon Criollo, but i did try El Sitio in Woodside once and liked it.
i'd like to see something along the lines of Cuba or Havana Alma de Cuba in the neighborhood. I think it'd do really well, and wouldn't interefere with Bogota's business, since they're off doing something completely different.
I will say that one of the best places I've EVER been to is right across the bridge....Azucar in Edgewater and Jersey City. As good as the best Miami spots.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Wed Oct 01, 08 2:26 pm EST
How about some good old fashioned Red Hook huaraches?
Flexichick Windsor Terrorist
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 9623
Wed Oct 01, 08 2:45 pm EST
<---Cuban _________________ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!
wonderroom Regular
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 84 Location: st.marks btw carlton and flatbush
Wed Oct 01, 08 3:02 pm EST
i'm cuban too....
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Wed Oct 01, 08 4:40 pm EST
would that actually make FOUR of us on here, or are you all kidding?
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