Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: park slope, north
Fri Dec 08, 06 4:25 pm EST
I live in the north slope - LOVE my block, LOVE my apartment - but I live with 4 people!! I am 26 now, a graphic designer, neat, clean and quiet. I am looking to move to my OWN PLACE (hopefully). Problem being that I can only afford about $1400/month MAX for rent. Are there still any affordable decent studios or 1 BRs in this area for that price or am I S.O.L.?
linusvanpelt Jockin my Mercedes
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Center Slope, between 4th and 5th Avenues
Fri Dec 08, 06 4:33 pm EST
Where in the North Slope? Near 4th Avenue, probably. Near Grand Army Plaza, no way.
zbruno02 Newbie
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: park slope, north
Fri Dec 08, 06 4:43 pm EST
prospect place between 5th and 6th (great location). I like living so close to atlantic center but i'm on a quiet street - would rather not live past 4th in the other direction or as far away from 5th as grand army... i know... it sucks but i got in here right before the rent increase boomed but i'm sick of living with people - i'm not in college anymore - i pay adult rent i want adult living.
BrookFetish Gentrified Chicken Customer
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 858 Location: Underhill
Fri Dec 08, 06 4:49 pm EST
try prospect heights. _________________ ===
Doing just fine, thank you.
sarajean8 Regular
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 128 Location: 7th ave/15th st
Fri Dec 08, 06 5:58 pm EST
i feel your pain. I too am 26 and a graphic artist. I live on 7th ave and just adore the neighborhood and park. I live with one other person, but each year I need to find a new roomie for one reason or another and it's definitely a challenge. i would love to live alone and have a stable situation.
Each year my rent increases and each time I renew the lease I tell myself: " i live in a great neighborhood, great apartment, if I were to get my own place I would be paying a LOT more and would not be able to live where I am now."
you're not alone in this plight. At least while sharing it allows for you to save a bit on bills/rent etc for when you do find your very own place. Good Luck!
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Fri Dec 08, 06 7:04 pm EST
sarajean8 wrote:
i feel your pain. I too am 26 and a graphic artist. I live on 7th ave and just adore the neighborhood and park. I live with one other person, but each year I need to find a new roomie for one reason or another and it's definitely a challenge. i would love to live alone and have a stable situation.
Each year my rent increases and each time I renew the lease I tell myself: " i live in a great neighborhood, great apartment, if I were to get my own place I would be paying a LOT more and would not be able to live where I am now."
you're not alone in this plight. At least while sharing it allows for you to save a bit on bills/rent etc for when you do find your very own place. Good Luck!
well if you pay on time etc.. you should talk to the ll and tell them its better than having a new tenant who might not pay on time or at all!! see if this would stop them from raising rents.
sarajean8 Regular
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 128 Location: 7th ave/15th st
Mon Dec 11, 06 11:40 am EST
armchair_warrior wrote:
well if you pay on time etc.. you should talk to the ll and tell them its better than having a new tenant who might not pay on time or at all!! see if this would stop them from raising rents.
Oh, I tried and got nowhere with my landlord. I'm stuck dealing with the kind of person who does not care about the tenant at ALL, I've hard he is the Godfather of PS landlords. he raised my rent $300 this past year (I researched the increase and found out it may have been a "preferential increase" and when I called and spoke to him in my nicest voice, he kept talking over me, "justifying" the increase due to "oil this and oil that" and then he very quicly said, "If you do not want to pay, I will find someone very quickly to replace you".
Mind you, I have paid ontime every month for almost 3 years now, and I keep the place in top notch condition. I felt so defeated.
TuckPendleton Newbie
Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 44
Mon Dec 11, 06 5:32 pm EST
You can definitely find a studio for 1400 or less, and possibly a 1 bedroom, depending on how far out you want to go...just keep checking CL, the real estate websites, etc. I agree with the above poster to start with PH. Good luck!
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Mon Dec 11, 06 5:43 pm EST
sarajean8 wrote:
armchair_warrior wrote:
well if you pay on time etc.. you should talk to the ll and tell them its better than having a new tenant who might not pay on time or at all!! see if this would stop them from raising rents.
Oh, I tried and got nowhere with my landlord. I'm stuck dealing with the kind of person who does not care about the tenant at ALL, I've hard he is the Godfather of PS landlords. he raised my rent $300 this past year (I researched the increase and found out it may have been a "preferential increase" and when I called and spoke to him in my nicest voice, he kept talking over me, "justifying" the increase due to "oil this and oil that" and then he very quicly said, "If you do not want to pay, I will find someone very quickly to replace you".
Mind you, I have paid ontime every month for almost 3 years now, and I keep the place in top notch condition. I felt so defeated.
find a better place screw him next time!
Bklynnewbie Guest
Mon Dec 11, 06 9:18 pm EST
I don't think I have a "steal" by any means, but I rent the 1st Floor of a Brownstone, I guess it's called a floor-through. I am on 7th St. between 6th & 7th for $1500 a month. I found it through a friend. Just be dilligent!
linusvanpelt Jockin my Mercedes
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Center Slope, between 4th and 5th Avenues
Tue Dec 12, 06 10:22 am EST
sarajean8 wrote:
I tried and got nowhere with my landlord. I'm stuck dealing with the kind of person who does not care about the tenant at ALL, I've hard he is the Godfather of PS landlords. he raised my rent $300 this past year (I researched the increase and found out it may have been a "preferential increase" and when I called and spoke to him in my nicest voice, he kept talking over me, "justifying" the increase due to "oil this and oil that" and then he very quicly said, "If you do not want to pay, I will find someone very quickly to replace you".
Mind you, I have paid ontime every month for almost 3 years now, and I keep the place in top notch condition. I felt so defeated.
OK, call me a heartless SOB, but this falls under the heading of what Mr. Chris Rock calls wanting credit for doing s__t you're supposed to do. You're not entitled to a rent cut for keeping your place in shape and paying on time. Just as you are not obligated to tip your landlord at the end of they year for giving you heat and following the tenant laws. You have a business relationship and while there's nothing wrong with asking, there's also nothing wrong with your landlord--like your grocer or anyone else--asking a market rate for you. That does not count as "not caring about the tenant at all." It amazes me how many people think that landlords, unlike any other business, have a moral responsibility to make less money than they can.
That said... a landlord will give you a break for being a good tenant IF it is especially worth his/her while to do it. That is more likely to happen in a small-landlord situation where you rent from the family that lives in the building. (This may be the case with the poster who pays $1500 on 7th Street, which believe me IS a steal--my friends on the block get about $300 more for their floorthrough.)
You may not get a steal initially, but speaking from experience, if the landlord lives in the house and is not a full-time professional landlord, he just wants a good, reliable tenant and no headaches--so once you prove yourself trustworthy, you'll probably get lower-than-market rent increases over time. I haven't raised my own tenants rents in 3 years, because I like them and want them to stay. A professional landlord who doesn't live in the building has no such incentive.
Now, renting in a 2-family house has its own risks if the LL ends up being a jerk (there have been several threads about this situation in this forum). But it's your best route to a deal.
Cabaki Queen of Kings
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 347 Location: south slope
Tue Dec 12, 06 3:50 pm EST
I'm also a 27 yr old designer living in a sweet 2 bed, 2 bath apt on the south slope right by Steinhoff. I know ZBruno mentioned he wants north slope only, but alot of north slopers dont realize there are cheaper apts and a younger, cooler vibe down in the south slope (thats because there arent many high end brownstones past 9th street, so its not as expensive.)
The main problem people have with the south slope is that there are no express trains (just the local F and R trains). I personally would rather pay a few hundred less in rent a month than make a fuss over 10 or 15 extra minutes on the subway each day (but as a native n'yer i'm used to taking the trains so I dont mind anyway). I guess you have to decide whats more important to you - time or money.
But I would definitely suggest checking out the south slope - its quite happening right now! AND I have an awesome roommmate I found on craigslist who's the best, which makes my rent half price
Cabaki Queen of Kings
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 347 Location: south slope
Tue Dec 12, 06 4:00 pm EST
Oh, and I forgot to mention, I see alot of 2 bedrooms going for 1600-1800 down here....i pass by about 5 real estate agencies on the way home and i see lots of cheap apts....
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Tue Dec 12, 06 4:10 pm EST
i live in gowanus -- 3rd ave.
1 BR for $975/mo.
the atlantic/pacific trains are 3 blocks away
i found this apt by walking through the hood and talking to people _________________ I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that! -- Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Cabaki Queen of Kings
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 347 Location: south slope
Tue Dec 12, 06 4:21 pm EST
Gowanus seems a bit isloated and deserted to me, not near any of the park slope amenities.
As a (small) woman, I wouldnt feel safe walking around there alone, but thats me....
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Tue Dec 12, 06 4:55 pm EST
that's what i would have thought before moving in
3rd avenue is 2 short blocks away from 5th ave
close to flatbush farm, miriam's, peperoncino, the chocolate room, convivium osteria, etc...
and all the other nearby haunts, bogotabistro, key food, los pollitos, kiku, etc...
and 1 block away is mule cafe and cherry tree and 4th ave pub
and BAM is 4 short blocks the other way
BabsAnne Drama Queen
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 10 Location: President Street, btw PPW and 8th Ave.
Tue Dec 12, 06 5:44 pm EST
Cabaki, I agree with you. I just moved to Park Slope after three years in Bay Ridge (I LOVE BAY RIDGE and miss is alot, but left due to the over 1 hour commute at night). I pay 1650 for a TEENY one bedroom in the North Slope. I have to say, in a few years, after i slightly forget how much moving suck, I want to move more to the south slope. For one reason and one reason only.....THE PEOPLE ARE NICER. _________________ The messiah hath not cometh in the form of your child.
Cabaki Queen of Kings
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 347 Location: south slope
Tue Dec 12, 06 6:56 pm EST
quijibo wrote:
that's what i would have thought before moving in
3rd avenue is 2 short blocks away from 5th ave
close to flatbush farm, miriam's, peperoncino, the chocolate room, convivium osteria, etc...
and all the other nearby haunts, bogotabistro, key food, los pollitos, kiku, etc...
and 1 block away is mule cafe and cherry tree and 4th ave pub
and BAM is 4 short blocks the other way
True...maybe Im thinking of the area on gowanus closer to center slope, where its further from the train and little sketchy, where our happy hour was? Sorry, I'm a south slope girl
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Tue Dec 12, 06 6:59 pm EST
the area around sheep station is a little sketchy
--give it a couple of years tho' _________________ I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that! -- Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Cabaki Queen of Kings
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 347 Location: south slope
Tue Dec 12, 06 7:02 pm EST
OK, I will....maybe it'll be better in 10 years when i have kids in a nice brownstone on the south slope that I'll pay $10 million for.
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Tue Dec 12, 06 7:11 pm EST
south slope 10 years -- $10 million?
maybe realllllly south, like over by the cemetery gates
probs more like $100 gatrillion dollars in 10 years.... _________________ I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that! -- Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Cabaki Queen of Kings
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 347 Location: south slope
Tue Dec 12, 06 7:16 pm EST
Probaby when its suddenly "cool" to live in East New York (ive heard whispers already that its the cheap new place, now that Bed Stuy has been snapped up...)
Courtine Guest
Tue Dec 19, 06 1:09 pm EST
Back in November, I moved into a decent one bedroom on Garfield between Sixth and Seventh Aves. and I got it for under $1300. Found it on Craigslist, just pays to keep looking!
cat Insider
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 340
Tue Dec 26, 06 10:07 am EST
I disagree that being a landlord should be only about making money. But that is the society we live in. It should be about creating a space for people to live and also being able to live (not expecting them to give the places away although , you know what? some of them are rich enough that they could give artist or activist subsidies...). these landlords are making so much money for the most part -- but there is not an environment created where they believe they should do something for the community. (the community, despite all the glamourous shops and high end restaurants, does get hurt by the gentrification. if you care about community.) the environment is to make as much money as possible. we are so ingrained with that mindset that it is hard to think otherwise but in a different type society people would be thought of first before the $$.
cat.
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Tue Dec 26, 06 5:17 pm EST
quijibo wrote:
south slope 10 years -- $10 million?
maybe realllllly south, like over by the cemetery gates
probs more like $100 gatrillion dollars in 10 years....
Cycles, people, cycles. These things go in cycles. Don't worry, Park Slope will be cheap and uncool again. Just wait it out.
Of course, this may take 10+ years and a major economic crash...
cat Insider
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 340
Wed Dec 27, 06 1:50 pm EST
caaahyoko wrote:
quijibo wrote:
south slope 10 years -- $10 million?
maybe realllllly south, like over by the cemetery gates
probs more like $100 gatrillion dollars in 10 years....
Cycles, people, cycles. These things go in cycles. Don't worry, Park Slope will be cheap and uncool again. Just wait it out.
Of course, this may take 10+ years and a major economic crash...
true!
doctorj Abstruse Goose
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 2510 Location: Underbilt btwn Carwash and Parking Pl.
Wed Dec 27, 06 3:17 pm EST
caaahyoko wrote:
Cycles, people, cycles. These things go in cycles. Don't worry, Park Slope will be cheap and uncool again. Just wait it out.
It's a pity we're more likely to go through expensive and uncool than cheap and cool to get there though. _________________ The world will little note nor long remember what we say here. -- Abraham Lincoln
dead Newbie
Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 4
Thu Dec 28, 06 10:07 pm EST
I live in a building on Carroll Street 1bdrm and I pay 1400. Rent hasnt increased in 2 years. Im looking to move out to a 1 1/2 or 2bdrm in the hood. Hopefully paying 1700-1800. Ive been searching and found a few...anyway i dont plan on moving until august but ill visit this board and let you know and maybe you can jump on my old place.
Guest
Fri Dec 29, 06 10:28 am EST
My suggestion is to be friendly and get to know old-timers on block. If they are like me - don't really care about getting top rent - just want clean, quiet, responsible, non-complaining tenant. Rarely is there vacancy but you might luck out. (My tenants pay $950 and $1300 for floor throughs
but won't be moving at that rent).
Guest
Fri Dec 29, 06 1:05 pm EST
quijibo wrote:
3rd avenue is 2 short blocks away from 5th ave
If those are short blocks I am really curious what you consider long.
MichaelKeys MotherSucker
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 900 Location: South of the Slope
Sat Dec 30, 06 9:21 pm EST
As has been mentioned above, it all depends on how far from the North Slope you are willing to go. There are deals to be had south of 9th St: 3 friends of mine are, respectively, paying $1100--with a 4% annual increase--for their own individual 1 BR apts on a safe, quiet block (15th btwn 3rd & 4th) close to the F and the R. And the landlord--not the best, but certainly quite far from the worst--does NOT live on the premises. (Always a plus in my book.)
Meanwhile, in the North Slope: my old roommate and his wife landed a HUGE 1BR w/tiny outdoor patio earlier this year for $1600. (Their bedroom alone is the size of the average studio apt. Or slightly bigger. Seriously.) Of course they moved from a matchbox in Brooklyn Heights where they paid $1400, so they had learned their lesson.
Basically, it comes down to deciding what's most important to you and doing the legwork. You'd be surprised what's out there. _________________ "If Elvis is the King of Rock 'n' Roll, then Chuck Berry must be Master of the Universe."
MichaelKeys MotherSucker
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 900 Location: South of the Slope
Sat Dec 30, 06 9:31 pm EST
Cabaki wrote:
Probaby when its suddenly "cool" to live in East New York (ive heard whispers already that its the cheap new place, now that Bed Stuy has been snapped up...)
Once the South Bronx started getting referred to as "SoBro" by the realtors I had a feeling East NY was next...after all, those were--arguably--the 2 worst 'hoods in the city, so... _________________ "If Elvis is the King of Rock 'n' Roll, then Chuck Berry must be Master of the Universe."
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