Ok, I know this may be a dead horse, but this post is a mix of help me and rant. I'm awake right now not because of New Year's Eve, but because my neighbor upstairs is blasting techno on his stereo system made too large for apartments of this size and poor insulation between floors. I bought my co-op about 8 months ago, and slowly have come to realize the major noise issues. First it was the upstairs neighbor. I've asked him a few times to turn down the music, which on the most part he's done. Until recently, I also thought TV noise was coming from his apartment, but in fact, it's coming from the neighbor below who has some mega-TV system with speakers that are probably right near the ceiling.
I've been keeping a log of the times I've gone up to talk to the neighbor (after allowable hours) to turn it down, as well as times when it's just the constant beat of techno around 6 pm every night. However, that is nothing compared to tonite.
Yes, it's new year's eve, and therefore, the dilemma. I am highly tolerant of everyday apartment living noises. But this is really too much. It's currently near 2:30 am and the techno is at full blast where the bass has been vibrating my walls, fixtures, and distorted enough that I feel like I'm literally in a dance club and my ears ring each time the song changes (which is not often if you know techno). They are now whoo-hoo'ing and hey-ho'ing. I haven't gone up because well.. it's new year's eve. And wouldn't I look like the spoil sport? I actually opted to relax because I had a whirlwind visit from friends overseas and am exhausted.
What do I do?? Write management? Write the co-op president?? In fact, I just saw a co-op member who tried to bang on their door, but they refused to come to the door. And they just continue to play the music.
HELP! I think this guy is a renter too... I just don't want to get into this horrible situation where he's just going to get vengeful. I just want him to keep the music at a tolerable level. Even at 2:30 am on new year's day. (ok, he had his music from 8 to now at this full blast--it's enough!).
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LastHumanSoldier Guest
Mon Jan 01, 07 3:55 am EST
You wouldn't be near ocean and woodward would you?
I think I live down the hall from this guy.
Guest
Mon Jan 01, 07 4:09 am EST
me too. let's call the cops!
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 4:12 am EST
you need to do things if you are serious about dealing with this situation.
a: call 311 and have them come asap. it's 3 am, i don't care if it's new years eve. if i could tell the police which backyard in one of the houses behind me was having the keg party then i would call them about my own noise issue here.
b: make a formal complaint to your coop board. it is their LEGAL responsibility to make sure your apartment is habitable. trust me when i tell you that i am dealing with a tenant situation above me in a coop building where there are already lawyers involved. it's the coop's job to keep things sane so make them accountable. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 4:28 am EST
well i'm not on ocean and woodward, but out there enough (just past park slope). i know everyone says to call 311, but I am really more concerned about retaliation. call me a wuss, but let's be realistic. he's a big beefy guy who has strange hours. in fact, right now, i think it's one big sex orgy up there (ok, not positive... maybe all that rhythmic noise is the techno ) . i think they can still cover it up by reducing the volume by half.
I've drafted up a letter to management and may be talking to the super (who in the past said he'd put in a word to the tenant if my talking to him didn't help). i plan to also send a copy to the co-op board. i've even considered selling the unit or subletting it later (it would behoove the co op board to want to keep things quieter if everyone did this!) although I really can't afford to and worse, don't want the hassle of moving once again. I would have to rent.
i have a feeling a lot of tenants in this building don't say anything. which is very odd to me. once, there was a big party at a house behind the apt. building (louder than even now), and someone called 311 but the police didn't come out.
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LastHumanSoldier Guest
Mon Jan 01, 07 4:31 am EST
Also be realistic, I have called 311 several times about the party in my building and they honestly don't care, and tomorrrow mornnig when I call
for an update they will tell me that they did send someone.
Something I will patently know is false.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 4:47 am EST
it's now 3:47 and it's loud as ever. i want to cry.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 4:58 am EST
omg.. finally it stopped!!! how considerate of them to let me start sleeping at 4 am.
BrooklynJack Ninja
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 962 Location: Windsor Terrace
Mon Jan 01, 07 11:19 am EST
By all means write to the management. That should get to the board but you can also CC them and send registered return receipt care of the management.
If this is a problem tenant and a renter they might want him out just as much and welome something in writing that they can use as ammunition.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 11:44 am EST
tenants/renters are pretty hard to get rid of; nearly impossible if they're rent stabilized.
that said, this is your home. and, again, the coop has a legal obligation to you. take this seriously.
and in the meantime, buy yourself some earplugs. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
Nathan Uber Newbie
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Near Sushi D
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:00 pm EST
Next time,
1. Position your speakers on the top of two ladders aimed up at the floor of their bedroom. (If you're able, shim things up so that the speakers actually touch the ceiling.)
2. Wait until approximately 1/2 hour to 45 minutes after they've turned off music. (give them time to doze off.)
3. Crank up something really loud and UN-techno. I suggest the finale of the 1812 Overture. (Make sure you've got the cannons dialed in for maximum effect.)
Childish, but fun!
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:02 pm EST
Nathan wrote:
Next time,
1. Position your speakers on the top of two ladders aimed up at the floor of their bedroom. (If you're able, shim things up so that the speakers actually touch the ceiling.)
2. Wait until approximately 1/2 hour to 45 minutes after they've turned off music. (give them time to doze off.)
3. Crank up something really loud and UN-techno. I suggest the finale of the 1812 Overture. (Make sure you've got the cannons dialed in for maximum effect.)
Childish, but fun!
if you're looking to incur wrath, this is pretty much the way to do it. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:14 pm EST
Yeah. It's something I'd love to do, but I feel it would give them the feeling of justification to be more obnoxious. I have cranked up my own music before to mask theirs, and it helps, but then it rules out my enjoying dinner or watching a tv show. Unnerves me to no end.
Oh, and as for rent-stabilization, I don't think his apartment is. I believe he rents it from the owner for about 5 yrs now. I'll have to ask the super, but he did tell me he rents.
By the way, just factual information (not anything I have a problem with), but just about 80% of the owners in this apartment are from the same country. So I have fun language barriers as well. I just find it hard to believe no one else complains about this on his floor (he's on the top floor). I dont' know if it's because they just don't collectively like to complain or what, or it's one countryman looking after another.. who knows.
I'd like to handle this in a diplomatic (read: manipulative) way without incurring wrath.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:19 pm EST
bkuser wrote:
I'd like to handle this in a diplomatic (read: manipulative) way without incurring wrath.
there's really no diplomatic way to deal with assholes.
in my last apartment my landlord refused to do anything about a very loud situation above me. i ended up taking the tenant to court: the judge sent us to mediate, she refused to mediate. we went back to court and i was given the option of letting them see my log of incidents and having her fined for each and every one, or having the judge threaten her with that. i chose the latter, not because i'm nice but because it pretty much kept her in check.
keep a log. take it seriously, otherwise you really have nothing to complain about. (this isn't meant to sound snotty, it's just really the way it is) _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
quig Hey You Kids! Get Offa my Stoop!
Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 268 Location: Undahill
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:29 pm EST
A couple of things to check out:
Look the bylaws, offering plan etc. with a fine tooth comb. Most co ops have specific rules about renting out apartments i.e. length of time co ops can be rented. In many cases, co ops will overlook long term rentals, just because they don't want to deal with the hassle of evicting a tenant.
Also, depending on the bylaws they may have to have to have 80% of the floor carpeted.
Remember, the devil is in the details.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:31 pm EST
i have been keeping a log. Although, it wasn't til recently I realized it's mixed now between what I've heard from below and above (music is usually indicating it's from above; tv is from below).
In any case.. do the logs when it's excessively loud even during house rule hours matter??
I was tempted to write the management months ago, but I really wanted to be able to say that a) i waited a while to see if it would remedy itself, b) that I had approached the guy at least twice , and c) that I had talked to the super. The last I still have to do.
But they may very well have the attitude: that level of noise was special just to new year's eve. The fact of the matter is, how much are they going to care that 3-4 times a week, they put on pounding techno around dinner time?? Of course, after last nite, that level seems blissful now.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:43 pm EST
bkuser wrote:
In any case.. do the logs when it's excessively loud even during house rule hours matter??
yes, excessive noise is excessive noise.
you're letting these idiots bully you and you need to stand up and stop it. unless you think they have guns. and if that's the case, sublet or move. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:43 pm EST
quig wrote:
A couple of things to check out:
Look the bylaws, offering plan etc. with a fine tooth comb. Most co ops have specific rules about renting out apartments i.e. length of time co ops can be rented. In many cases, co ops will overlook long term rentals, just because they don't want to deal with the hassle of evicting a tenant.
Also, depending on the bylaws they may have to have to have 80% of the floor carpeted.
Remember, the devil is in the details.
The guy does have carpeting. Goes to show how loud that music is that even that doesn't work. And there is an 80% rule.
Also, as many know, some co ops are more lax than others. I have a feeling many people break most rules in this building and no one does much because they all are doing it. Not sure how management would be. They seem nice enough but not sure how they deal with these things.
A small glimmer of hope is that the board appears to be trying to make changes little by little by selling to people who are more caring of their apartment. This area is changing and more "park slopers" are coming in. Unfortunately, the owners in place all know each other, and when they sell, they seem to sell to another immigrant from their country. (Again, nothing against them... but it does make a slight difference to the general attitude here. Not to mention, most of them are very very heavy smokers.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 12:50 pm EST
ok, here's the deal (at least in my opinion, and bear in mind that i am grumpy and tired):
don't accept excuses. you have ONE problem: loud and inconsiderate neighbors whom the coop board won't deal with. if you go to the board with all these complaints, which stem from this ONE problem, then you may very well get nowhere because it will appear it's too much to deal with.
you're making this harder than it has to be. unless you're living underneath a tenant whose behavior you can't stop/change (like me, but that's another whole story), then hop to it. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Mon Jan 01, 07 1:01 pm EST
brooklynpotter wrote:
ok, here's the deal (at least in my opinion, and bear in mind that i am grumpy and tired):
don't accept excuses. you have ONE problem: loud and inconsiderate neighbors whom the coop board won't deal with. if you go to the board with all these complaints, which stem from this ONE problem, then you may very well get nowhere because it will appear it's too much to deal with.
you're making this harder than it has to be. unless you're living underneath a tenant whose behavior you can't stop/change (like me, but that's another whole story), then hop to it.
I plan to just address the noise complaint. I agree it's too much for all the complaints. I am not yet sure if the co op is unwilling to deal with it. But at least I can get it a record started.
BrooklynJack Ninja
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 962 Location: Windsor Terrace
Mon Jan 01, 07 2:08 pm EST
You might also consider getting a sound pressure meter like one of these;
thanks! good tip on the decibel reader. I seem to see those noise questions a lot in the papers, and it's often in the favor of the noise maker. As they said in the article... they expect that one should be aware it's part of city life. Like I said, i'm more than tolerant about many things. But this was intolerable.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Mon Jan 01, 07 2:53 pm EST
somehow, my psycho upstairsicka got the city DEP guys to come with their decibal meter to measure the sound of my a/c--one of five, i might add, in our airshaft. stupidly, i let them in. stupidly, i turned it on and off for them to read the decibals. my luck, since my a/c was the closest to hers, turning it on again made the meter jump.
(before this, when i refused to move it, she spent one evening shining a bright flashlight in and out of my bedroom window as i was trying to sleep.)
ergo, i had to move the a/c (though i was told by the city that if i didn't want to let the guys in again i didn't have to, and that then there would be no way to prove it. but moving it seemed easier than having to deal with the wrath. that was a mistake. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
Drano Meow Wars Veteran
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1559
Tue Jan 02, 07 10:04 am EST
brooklynpotter wrote:
Nathan wrote:
Next time,
1. Position your speakers on the top of two ladders aimed up at the floor of their bedroom. (If you're able, shim things up so that the speakers actually touch the ceiling.)
2. Wait until approximately 1/2 hour to 45 minutes after they've turned off music. (give them time to doze off.)
3. Crank up something really loud and UN-techno. I suggest the finale of the 1812 Overture. (Make sure you've got the cannons dialed in for maximum effect.)
Childish, but fun!
if you're looking to incur wrath, this is pretty much the way to do it.
I hate to say it, but that attitude is precisely why the assholes of this world get away with as much as they do. Clearly - and perhaps not without reason - these idiots aren't too worried about the OP's wrath even though they are the ones fucking with him/her. Maybe it's time for that to change.
But yeah, if you think you might get shot up, don't do that.
exLofter Guest
Tue Jan 02, 07 10:33 am EST
I had exactly this problem. Tenant renting from owner who was incredibly obnoxious, noisy, and also flooded my place three or four times. I wrote to the board. I called board members. Nothing happened. I hired a lawyer. He wrote to the board. He spoke to the board's lawyer. In every communication we pointed ut that this tenant had stayed longer than the proprietary lease allowed, but still, nothing was done.
My advice: write one letter to board saying that if they don't do something about this situation pronto, that you are hiring lawyer to take them to court for warranty of habitability issues, potentially illegal subletting, harassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress (and anything else you can think of). And then you have to do it.
Good luck.
exLofter Guest
Tue Jan 02, 07 10:38 am EST
Oh, yeah...one more thing. Both me and my lawyer suggested that sound attenuation be installed above me, paid for by the owner of the unit, or, alternatively, by the board. (At one point, though, I offered to pay for half.) This was a big mistake. It gave the board more options to endlessly consider. Cut to the chase. Write that letter and hire a lawyer. Don't get into it with the tenant. Your real beef isn't with him. It's with the board who won't do anything about him.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Tue Jan 02, 07 10:42 am EST
exLofter wrote:
Don't get into it with the tenant. Your real beef isn't with him. It's with the board who won't do anything about him.
though it sounds like bkuser hasn't really pushed the whole thing with the board yet. i don't know how small or large your board is, but i think you can be firmer at first with a larger board in a larger building.
most small boards don't know all the laws regarding the corporation's obligations, and i'd think it best not to come in with guns blazing. plus, if it's a small building you'll be running into these people all the time, so i'd try to keep it as civil as possible in the beginning.
and none of this says you shouldn't do this and do it with gusto. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Tue Jan 02, 07 12:05 pm EST
We're having a similar situation in our building. New tenant moved in a few months ago... had the misfortune of ending up in the apt below our building's resident 200-year old deaf tenant. She listens to the radio at full blast and falls asleep with it on. The poor guy has been going out of his mind trying to get her to wake up... but, she's deaf and can't hear him pounding on her door. The bldg owner installed sound-attenuating tiles on his ceiling, but he says they've done nothing.
He's gotten more aggressive lately, pounding, kicking on the door, shouting "Shut off the goddamn music, you old hag." I'm two floors above and off to the side and I'm frequently amazed by how loud he can pound on her door. Last night, at 1:00 am, I was surprised to find him outside on the fire escape (!) pounding on her window (!!).
I have mixed emotions... I feel really bad for the guy. This woman can't take care of herself and needs to be in an assisted-living facility. The bldg owner can't get her out. The radio is truly loud, although we can't hear it inside our apartment. At the same time, he's making a huge amount of noise and is disrupting sleep for the rest of us. Thoughts?
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Tue Jan 02, 07 12:26 pm EST
8th and prez., has anyone actually spoken to her? does she know about the problem and just isn't doing anything about it? perhaps the board can offer to buy her those infrared hearing devices for TV? they're pretty cheap.
have you spoken with anyone in her family? her church? does the city have any community outreach for aging? (they do for mental health, btw. this, also, has not deterred my untenable psycho upstairsicka... but i digress)
unfortunately, this should be taken care of by the building owner. and your window-pounding neighbor should go to nolo and find out how to hold rent in escrow for when an apartment in uninhabitable. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Tue Jan 02, 07 12:39 pm EST
Apparently the besieged tenant has spoken to her, as has the bldg owner. She's very, very old and not 100% present. She's definitely not fit to live alone.
I don't know about your infrared device suggestion... she listens to the radio, not tv. Plus, there's no board to buy the device (it's a rental bldg). The owner says he's unable to do anything to get her out, I assume bc she's rent stabilized.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Tue Jan 02, 07 12:43 pm EST
but the owner isn't fulfilling his obligation to give you a habitable place to live. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Tue Jan 02, 07 12:51 pm EST
well, not me, but the tenant who lives beneath the old lady. I'm not sure how the owner's obligation to provide a habitable place to live dovetails with the rights of a rent-stabilized tenant. My guess is that he's in a real bind.
Guest
Tue Jan 02, 07 1:05 pm EST
bk, what are the cross streets of your building, and what is the neighborhood exactly.
exLofter Guest
Tue Jan 02, 07 3:00 pm EST
Perhaps the solution would be to buy a timer for her radio, which would shut it off every night...or how about the gift of a pair of wireless headphones?
Also, to go back to the original poster. I disagree that you should go slowly with the board in trying to resolve this. If you go slowly, so will the board, and the noise will just keep eating away at you until the sound of a pin dropping overhead will make you nuts. Inform the board in no uncertain terms that you do not intend to put up with this. Ask them what they intend to do about it and give them a limited time frame to get back to you with an answer. And, while you're waiting, start looking for an attorney.
There is one and only one revenge: Polka! Play a little Frankie Yankovic REALLY loud. Or Lawrence Welk. I am not sure it would work but it will make you feel way better.
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 608
Tue Jan 02, 07 5:45 pm EST
I have the same problem in the South Slope with a neighbor in the building next door to me. I've done the face to face thing and all I got was a "fuck off" so I called 311 and all I got was a reference number (it'll begin with C1-1). Eventually, one great cop from the 72 was nice enough to come and talk to me and then talk to her. She still plays her music loud but now I can call the 72 Precinct and even if the cop isn't there since I ask for him by name they'll ask what I want and I can tell them that Officer So-and-So helped me out in the past and could you please talk to this crazy chick? Usually they'll send a squad a lot quicker than if it was routed through 311.
My advice: call 311...get reference numbers (five or so) so that when you call 311 you can ask for the Precint's phone number (or google it- or go down there) and present your case.
I mean...it's something...last night the crazy fat bitch was playing her thumping base at 1am...and she has two just as fat kids who were going back to school today! Unfortunately, we live in a society where people are sometimes just inconsiderate fucks.
TakTak Guest
Tue Jan 02, 07 11:45 pm EST
What's up with the people above who have issues with loud parties on New Years Eve?! javascript:emoticon('')We're in New York City here, not New Hampshire. NYE is meant to be partied on and late into the night. If you don't like it, make plans to be somewhere quiet that night. This sort of thinking gives Park Slopers (Carroll Gardeners, Prospect Heighters, etc.) a bad image in other hoods and we aren't really all that uptight, I know, I've lived here for 17 years now.
(And yes, I agree, consistent loud music and tv after 11 or so on weeknights is rude. You should complain about that, starting with the offender and, if that doesn't work, then going to the cops. We have a band rehearsal space outside our bedroom window, where something is going on almost every night. The rule is that they stop amplified sound at 10 on weekdays and by midnight or so on weekends, which the almost always do. This way our cultural vibrancy can thrive, not that I would call some of the sounds coming out of the space either cultural or vibrant, and the rest of us can get some good sleep.)
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Tue Jan 02, 07 11:48 pm EST
i think that for those of us who are tortured on a daily basis by the crazy loud people who disrupt our lives, night's like new years make it even worse because the nature of the night gives those rude people an 'excuse" to be even ruder. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
bkuser Newbie
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
Wed Jan 03, 07 11:30 am EST
Ok, now that it's quiet... I'm calm.
Guest: I am actually very close to Ditmas Park, but I posted on Park Slope because I thought I'd get a better range of responses.
As for the legal wranglings, I am very hesitant to go that route. I have researched much about noise complaints and often, it's a long and unsatisfactory experience. I would prefer to deal one on one first. The neighbor HAS been responsive in the past. He hasn't been a jerk about it. It felt good to write the letter, but I haven't sent it (I know, some of you will feel this is not the right route). As right as it would be, it might very well make me look like the uptight tenant. After NYE, he's been quiet as a mouse. I continue to keep a log. Also, I feel glad at least someone witnessed it. I think going full out with lawyer threats is a bit much. Co ops are not all the same, and I think this one is a bit more lax than many. Which is good, and bad in my opinion.
I have no problem with where the majority of the owners are from and don't want it to be misconstrued that I'm anti-them. Just mentioned it because it gives an idea of the demographics of the owners. These are not Park Slope gentrifiers from Manhattan.
Oh, and I have played music to cover theirs, which helps. But honestly, I think that will make them think it's OK to put theirs as loud or even louder. Plus, it didn't do much good.
Taktak: I agree that it's NYE. That's why I've rethought sending the letter. I am also extremely tolerant to a large degree of putting up with the music and noises all other hours. I am hoping this extremity of music level on NYE is an isolated event. Drunk, rowdy, dancing. All good. But when you know a neighbor tries to knock on your door at 2 am I think it's only considerate to turn it down a bit (I'm not saying you have to turn it off) rather than keep it up at the same volume til 4 am. It seemed more of an F-U message rather than being neighborly.
if you feel you have a decent enough relationship with the guy upstairs, and you feel comfortable enough with it, have you ever considered inviting him downstairs to hear for himself what a racket he's making? i had a similar situation once with a next door neighbor. i never actually had to complain to them about the noise, cuz i found an excuse to invite the wife inside my place during the worst of it. not only was the gal shocked & horrified at the level of sound coming thru the walls, but from then on they made every effort to be silent. i'm not suggesting it's the same thing, but maybe this dude doesn't realize just how MUCH noise he's making, and hearing it for himself may influence his decision on how well to behave. again, like i said you'd have to be comfortable with the notion of inviting him in, but maybe it'll do the trick.
no matter what route you take, good luck with it! _________________ Get your paws off my canned chicken
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Wed Jan 03, 07 9:27 pm EST
well, here on crazy street it's very likely i will be calling the police on the woman upstairs
i know exactly what she is watching on tv. because it's that loud. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
Liz Guest
Thu Jan 04, 07 1:37 am EST
You can boil cabbage/sauerkraut late at night.
I heard that the smell is very repulsive.
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Thu Jan 04, 07 1:44 am EST
lol. it is repulsive, but i don't know that she would be bothered by it.
you know what freaks me out? we watch a whole lot of the same TV shows. (and i know this how? because i can hear her tv). _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
.. Guest
Sun Jan 14, 07 11:06 am EST
You can try screaming outside of their door and bang a hammer
against an object (metal bowl).
My husband did that the other day since our wonderful upstairs neighbor
was blasting their music in the morning.
They shut off their music.
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) . i think they can still cover it up by reducing the volume by half.
')We're in New York City here, not New Hampshire. NYE is meant to be partied on and late into the night. If you don't like it, make plans to be somewhere quiet that night. This sort of thinking gives Park Slopers (Carroll Gardeners, Prospect Heighters, etc.) a bad image in other hoods and we aren't really all that uptight, I know, I've lived here for 17 years now.