Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Wed Jan 03, 07 9:24 pm EST
Hi eveyone,
I'm new to these message boards but not to CH or Brooklyn for that matter. Does anyone know what's going on with the Armory on Pacific and Bedford? I thought I heard plans to turn it into a recreational center. I live on Pacific and Franklin so I can see it in all it's glory.It's a beautiful building, just wondering. _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
homeowner "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 2116 Location: Between a rock and a hard place
Thu Jan 04, 07 12:28 am EST
As far as I know, there are no plans to change it. You may want to call Tish James office and ask. She mentioned several proposals for changing the usage at a community meeting, but it seemed they were more things folks would like to happen not anything that had get been agreed on.
gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Thu Jan 04, 07 8:06 am EST
thanks dude, i will call Tish's office. it would be nice to know whats going on with this building. let me know if you here any thing else. curious to know what this corner will be like in 10 years. i know what it was like 5 years ago. today it's not so bad. _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
Guest
Thu Jan 04, 07 5:32 pm EST
Tish James sucks.
gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Thu Jan 04, 07 7:09 pm EST
What's wrong w/Tish James? School me. _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
anniewilde dropping the H bomb all too often
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 69 Location: Park Slope
Thu Jan 04, 07 11:47 pm EST
Well, she's black for one--and educated--that's dangerous. Although it takes a "guest" to say so, cuz it ain't pc. I am being only slightly facetious. She's probably not perfect, but as far as I know from having met and spoken with her, she seems very leftish/anti Ratner, and pretty cool--but many people on this board say snide things--although from what I can tell, it's never backed up by any evidence other than the obvious-- _________________ Folle dont je suis affolée,
Je te hais autant que je t'aime!
heidikins Newbie
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 48 Location: Dean St.
Fri Jan 05, 07 12:38 am EST
homeowner wrote:
As far as I know, there are no plans to change it. You may want to call Tish James office and ask. She mentioned several proposals for changing the usage at a community meeting, but it seemed they were more things folks would like to happen not anything that had get been agreed on.
About 2 years ago or so my husband attended a Community Board meeting where Roger Green said he was considering a proposal for armories in the district--the one on Bedford/Atlantic or the one in Park Slope on 8th Avenue. He wanted to convert an armory into a community center--place for recreation, events, activities for children/teens. He said he would propose either of the armories, but not both. Obviously we wanted it to be the one in Crown Heights on Atlantic, but I bet he either went with the Park Slope armory or dropped it entirely because I haven't heard anything since. It's a great idea and would be a nice use of space--we need space like this. I also know that Bloomberg's general homelessness policy is to try to phase out large group shelters like this one and focus on permanent housing, but I don't know what the current plans are (if any) for this men's shelter. If you find anything out, please post. thanks
gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Fri Jan 05, 07 12:51 am EST
anniewilde, thanks for being real I appreciate that. I need to go to some of these community meetings and get more informed _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Fri Jan 05, 07 12:58 am EST
heidikins wrote:
homeowner wrote:
As far as I know, there are no plans to change it. You may want to call Tish James office and ask. She mentioned several proposals for changing the usage at a community meeting, but it seemed they were more things folks would like to happen not anything that had get been agreed on.
About 2 years ago or so my husband attended a Community Board meeting where Roger Green said he was considering a proposal for armories in the district--the one on Bedford/Atlantic or the one in Park Slope on 8th Avenue. He wanted to convert an armory into a community center--place for recreation, events, activities for children/teens. He said he would propose either of the armories, but not both. Obviously we wanted it to be the one in Crown Heights on Atlantic, but I bet he either went with the Park Slope armory or dropped it entirely because I haven't heard anything since. It's a great idea and would be a nice use of space--we need space like this. I also know that Bloomberg's general homelessness policy is to try to phase out large group shelters like this one and focus on permanent housing, but I don't know what the current plans are (if any) for this men's shelter. If you find anything out, please post. thanks
I thought I heard something like that...I don't think it will stay a men's shelter forever. If the community puts enough pressure maybe things will change. I'm not thrilled with the idea of a shelter so close to me, but it is what it is, it doesn't consume my daily thoughts—life goes on. So far I havn't experienced anything totally negative. Knock on wood. _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
heidikins Newbie
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 48 Location: Dean St.
Fri Jan 05, 07 1:04 am EST
gingerolive wrote:
heidikins wrote:
homeowner wrote:
As far as I know, there are no plans to change it. You may want to call Tish James office and ask. She mentioned several proposals for changing the usage at a community meeting, but it seemed they were more things folks would like to happen not anything that had get been agreed on.
About 2 years ago or so my husband attended a Community Board meeting where Roger Green said he was considering a proposal for armories in the district--the one on Bedford/Atlantic or the one in Park Slope on 8th Avenue. He wanted to convert an armory into a community center--place for recreation, events, activities for children/teens. He said he would propose either of the armories, but not both. Obviously we wanted it to be the one in Crown Heights on Atlantic, but I bet he either went with the Park Slope armory or dropped it entirely because I haven't heard anything since. It's a great idea and would be a nice use of space--we need space like this. I also know that Bloomberg's general homelessness policy is to try to phase out large group shelters like this one and focus on permanent housing, but I don't know what the current plans are (if any) for this men's shelter. If you find anything out, please post. thanks
I thought I heard something like that...I don't think it will stay a men's shelter forever. If the community puts enough pressure maybe things will change. I'm not thrilled with the idea of a shelter so close to me, but it is what it is, it doesn't consume my daily thoughts—life goes on. So far I havn't experienced anything totally negative. Knock on wood.
yup, you said it. been here 7 years, around the corner and no incidents/problems. knock knock.
X-brooklynite Regular
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 76 Location: the west coast
Fri Jan 05, 07 1:14 am EST
The Gotham Girls Roller Derby League has been looking for a new home and the Armory looks like it could be a big enough place for future bouts.
heidikins Newbie
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 48 Location: Dean St.
Fri Jan 05, 07 1:17 am EST
X-brooklynite wrote:
The Gotham Girls Roller Derby League has been looking for a new home and the Armory looks like it could be a big enough place for future bouts.
Sign 'em up!
gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Fri Jan 05, 07 8:38 am EST
Just curious, but has anyone seen inside the armory? It looks massive from the outside. They've done a ton of work to the building. It wasn't lookin' too pretty before. _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
Guest
Fri Jan 05, 07 12:58 pm EST
It’s an amazing building inside and out. I, a long time ago, have been to a few community events including a concert there 25 years ago "Steele Pulse" I believe. The men’s shelter is what it has been for what I believe to be the better part of the last twenty years. Which isn’t at all a negative. It functions very well, and offers great services for the homeless and is one of the few lasting such resources in its ability and scale. The community’s involvement in the facilitation of programs that create bridges and services for the homeless is what is needed. But in terms of the Armory being a plus or a minus for the neighborhood, I must say that its existence is a good thing and a necessity. This (Crown Heights” is and has always been a community. Community in the, "really explore the meaning of the word" sense.
--King I
gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Fri Jan 05, 07 3:08 pm EST
Anonymous wrote:
It’s an amazing building inside and out. I, a long time ago, have been to a few community events including a concert there 25 years ago "Steele Pulse" I believe. The men’s shelter is what it has been for what I believe to be the better part of the last twenty years. Which isn’t at all a negative. It functions very well, and offers great services for the homeless and is one of the few lasting such resources in its ability and scale. The community’s involvement in the facilitation of programs that create bridges and services for the homeless is what is needed. But in terms of the Armory being a plus or a minus for the neighborhood, I must say that its existence is a good thing and a necessity. This (Crown Heights” is and has always been a community. Community in the, "really explore the meaning of the word" sense.
--King I
thanks for the food for thought "guest". you sound like your really in touch with the nabe. i guess your right...if it wasn't for the shelter, then some of the homeless would be on the street. we never know if any one of us could some day be in a sinilar situation. i'm just grateful to have a roof over my head. _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Wed Jan 10, 07 11:50 am EST
would be nice to see something else than a homeless shelter.
and those rich white folks who want that homeless shelter to stay. well they can host it in their area! or hell host a homeless person in their homes. _________________ Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away.
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gingerolive Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Franklin Avenue
Wed Jan 10, 07 12:05 pm EST
armchair_warrior wrote:
would be nice to see something else than a homeless shelter.
and those rich white folks who want that homeless shelter to stay. well they can host it in their area! or hell host a homeless person in their homes.
ooh this is gonna get ugly! _________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." —Albert Einstein
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