Landmark Pub knows that people say disparaging things about it behind its back. "Its better days are behind it." "That place is a wreck." "The owner's crazy."
Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 1185 Location: No Man's/Woman's Land
Mon Apr 09, 07 2:03 pm EST
_________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
sprite Order of Merlin, First Class
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 366 Location: Prospect Heights
Mon Apr 09, 07 2:54 pm EST
I'm confused; why would she sue the city and not the owner? Surely the owner is liable for the damage done to her car. _________________ What is essential is invisible to the eye. —Antoine de Saint Exupéry
Oiseau Wacky Tobacconist
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 660 Location: Who wants to know?
Mon Apr 09, 07 2:54 pm EST
I went in there once. I have heard the owner is crazy. Anyone want to squat in it?
dw438 "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 496
Mon Apr 09, 07 4:47 pm EST
Too bad the article had the wrong street address.
187 7th Ave aka 495 2nd Street is the location for the Building in question.
The Dept. of Buildings website is a goldmine for the building's violations.
... one reason why the woman is suing the city. the city is responsible for building safety ... the city sure knew about the problems ... and has much deeper pockets than the building owner, who will probably cry insanity or something similar.
The Chipster Irregular
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 672
Mon Apr 09, 07 9:16 pm EST
Frivolous lawsuits. How satisfying.
Although someone could have DIED from that--why the hell must you sue the city?!! What is her point exactly...sue your way towards preservation or prosperity? _________________ Ask a burning question, get a burning answer.
Drano Meow Wars Veteran
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1559
Mon Apr 09, 07 10:45 pm EST
The Chipster wrote:
Frivolous lawsuits. How satisfying.
Although someone could have DIED from that--why the hell must you sue the city?!! What is her point exactly...sue your way towards preservation or prosperity?
I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, it kind of seems as absurd as trying to sue the NYPD if you've been mugged. Too, I despise litigious culture. On the other hand, this particular mugger has been in one spot, rotting away for the better part of twenty years. Obviously, there have been complaints to DHCR or whoever, and the condition of the building is plain to see. That shit should be condemned.
I figure if the plaintiff is looking for the cost of her roof back, plus reasonable damages and fees, ok. But yeah, this shouldn't be any $10m get-rich-quick lawsuit.
Jamzer Lifer
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 911 Location: Park F'ing Slope
Tue Apr 10, 07 9:34 am EST
it is one thing if she wants to sue the city to recover the cost of fixing her car. My guess is that she will add on "pain and suffering" and try to collect millions. Its too bad.
Rose Ninja
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 911 Location: South Slope
Tue Apr 10, 07 10:03 am EST
Don't worry, no one is getting millions for pain & suffering. There is no money to be collected here except for the damage to the car. Also, the city will add the building owner as a co-defendant, if she's not already named in the lawsuit. The lawsuit is useful if it gets someone in the government to pay attention to this building and take appropriate action before someone is injured.
The Chipster Irregular
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 672
Tue Apr 10, 07 2:58 pm EST
Guess I just don't understand these things. Ever. That crazy lady and her daughters ought to pay--and even if it's excessive; so is their selling price. _________________ Ask a burning question, get a burning answer.
Oiseau Wacky Tobacconist
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 660 Location: Who wants to know?
Tue Apr 10, 07 3:46 pm EST
The Chipster wrote:
so is their selling price.
Someone should make her an offer she can't refuse
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Tue Apr 10, 07 7:53 pm EST
Rose wrote:
Don't worry, no one is getting millions for pain & suffering. There is no money to be collected here except for the damage to the car. Also, the city will add the building owner as a co-defendant, if she's not already named in the lawsuit. The lawsuit is useful if it gets someone in the government to pay attention to this building and take appropriate action before someone is injured.
Yeah, eventhough it may be harder to prove that the city is jointly or severally liable in this case, it will be more likely that she will collect from the city if she wins. Sadly, even if you win a civil suit, it can be pretty damn hard to collect the money you won. You always see those news stories about contractors who don't finish a job, are ordered by the court to pay back money, and then just never pay the court settlement. I haven't been involved in a civil suit, but I can't even imagine the pain in the ass it must be to collect.
ljnd "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 416
Tue Apr 10, 07 9:14 pm EST
It is. I've been in that situation and I am still waiting...three years later....Short of getting the US Marshals after this miscreant, there's nothing to be done.
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Wed Apr 11, 07 10:21 am EST
ljnd wrote:
It is. I've been in that situation and I am still waiting...three years later....Short of getting the US Marshals after this miscreant, there's nothing to be done.
Ugh. That's what happens when you get older. You find out this country works...sorta. Like having a constant bad hangnail.
dw438 "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 496
Thu Apr 12, 07 11:56 am EST
See this from the Times ...
New York City wants to strengthen its hand against recalcitrant landlords by giving itself broad new powers to overhaul entire building systems — like heating, electrical or plumbing — in long-troubled properties, and to force landlords to pay for the work.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/nyregion/12housing.html
BigGuy Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 1039 Location: Lincoln Pl, Wash & Underhill
Fri Apr 13, 07 7:49 am EST
Sh'e probably trying to put pressure on the city to do something, via the lawsuit. _________________ When the experts are agreed, the opposite opinion cannot be regarded as certain.
-Bertrand Russell
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