I hate that idea! Why can't they just use the building that is there now?
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Oct 07, 08 11:50 am EST
the building that's there now was ruined by a fire 4 years ago and now sits as as dump and eyesore.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Tue Oct 07, 08 11:52 am EST
I know it was ruined by fire, I guess my question should have been. Why not renovate that building instead of tearing down and putting up something new?
I looked at the picture of the building they are talking about putting up and did not care for it nor did I think it fits in with the area.
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Oct 07, 08 12:59 pm EST
the overhwhelming majority of commenters on brownstoner today think the design is nice.
i agree.
since we don't own the building, i think the owner has a right to take advantage of the FAR and build something higher and more profitable. the avenues are meant for taller buildings, and it's where we should be taking advantage of density in this ever-growing city.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Tue Oct 07, 08 1:07 pm EST
belzjm wrote:
the overhwhelming majority of commenters on brownstoner today think the design is nice.
i agree.
Well, good for all of you! I don't care for it.
My problem isn't with the height of the building, it's with the way the front of the building looks (HATE the huge factory like windows). My other problem is with the idea of things being torn down and built anew, I hate when i see that, old building or houses being taken down to put up a newer structure when work could be done on the old building and preserve some history (not to say that this is a particularly historic building, but, I think you get my drift).
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Oct 07, 08 1:21 pm EST
well we will agree to disagree then. no big deal.
i don't know how badly damaged the building was from the fire, but there are many instances where the damage is too bad to repair and the best thing to do is start fresh.
i am all for historic preservation, but that building there now is a shack.
and a burned out shack, no less.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Tue Oct 07, 08 1:47 pm EST
I also honestly thought that the fire was contained more or less to the bottom floors, I had no idea about damage to upper floors.
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Oct 07, 08 2:00 pm EST
it's only a one story building...
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Tue Oct 07, 08 3:46 pm EST
seems fine to me. it's be great to move past that fire and see some life there again.
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Tue Oct 07, 08 3:46 pm EST
seems fine to me. it's be great to move past that fire and see some life there again.
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Oct 07, 08 3:52 pm EST
just curious...why does my screen name say crabby native under it?
i'm not a native, nor do i consider myself crabby about 95% of the time...
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1133 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Tue Oct 07, 08 8:39 pm EST
LongTimeSloper wrote:
My other problem is with the idea of things being torn down and built anew, I hate when i see that, old building or houses being taken down to put up a newer structure when work could be done on the old building and preserve some history (not to say that this is a particularly historic building, but, I think you get my drift).
LTS: this building doesn't appear to have any significant architectural merit... it's just a poorly-maintained one-story taxpayer. I think the design shown is in keeping with the character of the neighborhood while still making a bit of an architectural nod to the present day. I think change is good and I'm happy to see this "missing tooth" on the avenue be built up.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Tue Oct 07, 08 9:27 pm EST
I just really hate the huge windows, to each their own.
the huge windows help to provide sunlight to the space, thus allow it to use less energy.
this is 2008. we need to think about these things now a little bit.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
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Tue Oct 07, 08 10:24 pm EST
belzjm wrote:
the huge windows help to provide sunlight to the space, thus allow it to use less energy.
this is 2008. we need to think about these things now a little bit.
Well, depending on the season. I'd bet they'll have a nice a/c bill come August.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
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Tue Oct 07, 08 10:25 pm EST
raw wrote:
FOUR YEARS!!! Why SO LONG? I wish that wonderful grocery store with good produce and friendly workers would return.
So true. I loved that little market. Good produce, good nuts, nice folks.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
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Tue Oct 07, 08 11:07 pm EST
Yes, they did have good produce.
Zebra Local
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 203
Tue Oct 07, 08 11:27 pm EST
Nobody cried for Mr. Egg Roll.
eggcream Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1261 Location: PS Bklyn
Tue Oct 07, 08 11:39 pm EST
I hate it! I also hate all these new crappy office type buildings squeezed in between brownstones. I think they should renovate these buildings instead of tearing them down.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
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Wed Oct 08, 08 8:46 am EST
eggcream wrote:
I hate it! I also hate all these new crappy office type buildings squeezed in between brownstones. I think they should renovate these buildings instead of tearing them down.
Renovate the one-story building? i think it would be financially unworkable to pay for the reconstruction of a fire damaged, one-story building without the added income from office or residential above.
I hate it! I also hate all these new crappy office type buildings squeezed in between brownstones. I think they should renovate these buildings instead of tearing them down.
I would generally agree, but look at the thing that's there now - you might as well try to preserve an abandoned 7-11.
Dolores Newbie
Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 3
Wed Oct 08, 08 5:24 pm EST
Wow...Is this what I'm missing living in Fl. for the past 21 yrs????
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