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belzjm

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:11 am EST     Reply with quote

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archiv.....1_7th_avenue.php#comments

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LongTimeSloper

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:26 am EST     Reply with quote

I hate that idea! Why can't they just use the building that is there now?

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:50 am EST     Reply with quote

the building that's there now was ruined by a fire 4 years ago and now sits as as dump and eyesore.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:52 am EST     Reply with quote

I know it was ruined by fire, I guess my question should have been. Why not renovate that building instead of tearing down and putting up something new?

I looked at the picture of the building they are talking about putting up and did not care for it nor did I think it fits in with the area.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 12:59 pm EST     Reply with quote

the overhwhelming majority of commenters on brownstoner today think the design is nice.

i agree.

since we don't own the building, i think the owner has a right to take advantage of the FAR and build something higher and more profitable. the avenues are meant for taller buildings, and it's where we should be taking advantage of density in this ever-growing city.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 1:07 pm EST     Reply with quote

belzjm wrote:
the overhwhelming majority of commenters on brownstoner today think the design is nice.

i agree.


Well, good for all of you! I don't care for it.

My problem isn't with the height of the building, it's with the way the front of the building looks (HATE the huge factory like windows). My other problem is with the idea of things being torn down and built anew, I hate when i see that, old building or houses being taken down to put up a newer structure when work could be done on the old building and preserve some history (not to say that this is a particularly historic building, but, I think you get my drift).

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belzjm

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 1:21 pm EST     Reply with quote

well we will agree to disagree then. no big deal.

i don't know how badly damaged the building was from the fire, but there are many instances where the damage is too bad to repair and the best thing to do is start fresh.

i am all for historic preservation, but that building there now is a shack.

and a burned out shack, no less.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 1:47 pm EST     Reply with quote

I also honestly thought that the fire was contained more or less to the bottom floors, I had no idea about damage to upper floors.

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belzjm

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 2:00 pm EST     Reply with quote

it's only a one story building...

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 3:46 pm EST     Reply with quote

seems fine to me. it's be great to move past that fire and see some life there again.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 3:46 pm EST     Reply with quote

seems fine to me. it's be great to move past that fire and see some life there again.

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belzjm

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 3:52 pm EST     Reply with quote

just curious...why does my screen name say crabby native under it?

i'm not a native, nor do i consider myself crabby about 95% of the time...

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 8:39 pm EST     Reply with quote

LongTimeSloper wrote:
My other problem is with the idea of things being torn down and built anew, I hate when i see that, old building or houses being taken down to put up a newer structure when work could be done on the old building and preserve some history (not to say that this is a particularly historic building, but, I think you get my drift).


LTS: this building doesn't appear to have any significant architectural merit... it's just a poorly-maintained one-story taxpayer. I think the design shown is in keeping with the character of the neighborhood while still making a bit of an architectural nod to the present day. I think change is good and I'm happy to see this "missing tooth" on the avenue be built up.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 9:27 pm EST     Reply with quote

I just really hate the huge windows, to each their own.

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FOUR YEARS!!! Why SO LONG? I wish that wonderful grocery store with good produce and friendly workers would return.
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belzjm

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 9:42 pm EST     Reply with quote

the huge windows help to provide sunlight to the space, thus allow it to use less energy.

this is 2008. we need to think about these things now a little bit.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 10:24 pm EST     Reply with quote

belzjm wrote:
the huge windows help to provide sunlight to the space, thus allow it to use less energy.

this is 2008. we need to think about these things now a little bit.


Well, depending on the season. I'd bet they'll have a nice a/c bill come August.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 10:25 pm EST     Reply with quote

raw wrote:
FOUR YEARS!!! Why SO LONG? I wish that wonderful grocery store with good produce and friendly workers would return.


So true. I loved that little market. Good produce, good nuts, nice folks.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:07 pm EST     Reply with quote

Yes, they did have good produce.

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:27 pm EST     Reply with quote

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Post Tue Oct 07, 08 11:39 pm EST     Reply with quote

I hate it! I also hate all these new crappy office type buildings squeezed in between brownstones. I think they should renovate these buildings instead of tearing them down.

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Post Wed Oct 08, 08 8:46 am EST     Reply with quote

eggcream wrote:
I hate it! I also hate all these new crappy office type buildings squeezed in between brownstones. I think they should renovate these buildings instead of tearing them down.


Renovate the one-story building? i think it would be financially unworkable to pay for the reconstruction of a fire damaged, one-story building without the added income from office or residential above.

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Post Wed Oct 08, 08 10:13 am EST     Reply with quote

I don't care what it looks like, I'm just excited that Park Slope is finally going to get a Signage store.
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Post Wed Oct 08, 08 2:20 pm EST     Reply with quote

eggcream wrote:
I hate it! I also hate all these new crappy office type buildings squeezed in between brownstones. I think they should renovate these buildings instead of tearing them down.


I would generally agree, but look at the thing that's there now - you might as well try to preserve an abandoned 7-11.

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Post Wed Oct 08, 08 5:24 pm EST     Reply with quote

Wow...Is this what I'm missing living in Fl. for the past 21 yrs???? Rolling Eyes

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