SPLIT TOPIC: is stutter racist?

brooklynpotter

MOD NOTE: This is a thread fragment based on some comments posted earlier today by "stutter" (alternately posting as "hificarrot") who insisted on posting "Obama is racist, Brooklynian is Censorship" comments on dozens of threads (existing and new). We'd love to see some intelligent poliical discourse, "liberal vs conservative" or what have you, and if the accusation is out there that Obama is racist, then by all means bring it on, we need to debate that. But in a way that doesn't involve name calling, rudeness, personal attacks, and shrill protests of some alleged violation of free speech. To paraphrase the rules, if your post gets deleted, it's not a First Amendment issue - it's probably an issue about you being a jerk. -DH

your post WAS racist.

perhaps you need to go read the "rules" at the top of the page.

stutter

wow. calling me a racist for being against racism. You are so progressive. Like Obama. Perhaps if I sat in a church and silently accepted racism for 20 years, I would be cool. How much I learn!

Take home point - speak out against racism and be called a racist. word up.

bergenites

stutter, I don't want to engage you, but I fail to see how any intelligent person could construe your post as "speaking out against racism".

brooklynpotter

take home point: read the rules

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3319

stutter

Yeah, the ole "I don't want to engage you but will call you a racist for being against racism." Take home point - sit silenty while those around you are racist but be sure and call names of those who speak out against racism. Yeah, that's the ticket. The ole "Bush is so bad, let's elect a racist who won't be photographed with a Muslim." Yeah! YEAH!

daver

Could somebunny split this thread for "PS food coop", and like "is Obama racist" or "is stutter racist" or whatever?

daver

Yay. Tanks.

The Obama campaign claimed that the two Muslim women asked to move were asked by volunteers, and that there was no such directive sent and that Obama and the campaign don't agree with what was done. They also apologized to the women in question, who accepted said apology and claim to harbor no ill feelings.

You aren't buying this then? Do you really think Obama would have requested them to be moved?

stutter

yes! I have just been proven correct by the moderators here! They are erasing my posts now in which I keep asking if those who deny racism, like brooklynpotter, are racist because of this denial. Censorship means I win! Thank you moderators!

brooklynpotter

troll. see ya

stutter

Daver, you are asking great questions, but half of my replies are being immediately being censored by the moderators. I am not cursing, not calling people names, just expressing while I feel Obama is racist and trying to respond to you. Please know that most of my responses to you are being instantly deleted. Very sad that this site only allows political conversations if you agree with the views of the moderators. So sad.

sterling2000

Someone's got a case of the Mondays...

daver

MOTHERFUCKER. I can't keep up with the deletions, moves, and unmoves. I need faster fingers. Anyway.

brooklynbear wrote: BTW - I have made about 15-16 posts that have been deleted. The comrades here don't like freedom of speech. They don't like being told that racism is bad and thatBush being president doesn't change that fact.

Racism is bad, no matter how much the mods here hate Bush, racism is still wrong. Get over it, now.

Don't make personal attacks and restrict your comments to appropriate threads and I doubt you'll have much trouble. FYI.

bogframe

Just an observation here, but by and large, I find that the people who complain the most about racism tend to be racist themselves.

eggcream

bogframe wrote: Just an observation here, but by and large, I find that the people who complain the most about racism tend to be racist themselves.

Exactly and Mr. Change himself got the ball rolling last week.

Obama says Republicans will use race to stoke fear

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080620/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_race_dc_1

the chipster

Y'know, the republicans LOVE this shit. Just keep bickering amongst yourselves, trying to prove whose got more street cred, while another white man sweeps the election.

carnivore

Eggcream, look at what the article actually says.

Obama says Republicans will use race to stoke fear

By Caren Bohan Fri Jun 20, 7:19 PM ET

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.

"It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy," Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid.

"They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"

He said he was also set for Republicans to say "he's got a feisty wife," in trying to attack his wife Michelle.

"We know the strategy because they've already shown their cards. Ultimately I think the American people recognize that old stuff hasn't moved us forward. That old stuff just divides us," he said.

Obama, born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, has cast himself as a candidate who can bridge divides within the country, including those involving race.

It has been rare for him to bring up the topic during his presidential bid. In March he gave a widely praised speech on the subject after receiving criticism over racially charged comments by his longtime pastor.

Obama, who faces Republican John McCain in the November election, would be the first black U.S. president.

Is there a single thing Obama is quoted as saying in the article that is even the slightest bit inaccurate?

daver

eggcream wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080620/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_race_dc_1

"It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy," Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid.

"They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"

He said he was also set for Republicans to say "he's got a feisty wife," in trying to attack his wife Michelle.

"We know the strategy because they've already shown their cards. Ultimately I think the American people recognize that old stuff hasn't moved us forward. That old stuff just divides us," he said.

Interesting, inviting the specter of race into Park^b^b^b^b the race.

Lamb of God - Redneck

This is a motherfuckin' invitation
The only one you could ever need
This is a motherfuckin' invitation
You try me

Just one time you got a reason
Heard you had nothing to lose
A blind preacher for the pin-eyed congregation
It must be easy to loathe

Oh but I ain't one to call names
Or throw stones in a house of glass
You try me

Short circuiting the elephant in the living room?

filmlover44

Kittens. Think about cute little kittens.

hificarrot

I love Kittens! But I hate racists. I wonder if Obama favors black kittens over white kittens? I wonder if white kittens are the cause of urinary tract kitten infections?

filmlover44

HiFiCarrot wrote: I love Kittens! But I hate racists. I wonder if Obama favors black kittens over white kittens? I wonder if white kittens are the cause of urinary tract kitten infections?

Honey, please go and take your meds. You're frothing at the mouth. You don't like Obama, don't vote for Obama. You are not going to convert people today.