Seeking Crown Heights Blogs - Are there Any?

nearnostrand

I was doing a bit a of googling and I would like to know if there are any blogs for Crown Heights that do not have a Jewish bent and/ or specifically crime related bent. Is there one? I would really like to read something else about Crown Heights if possible. I can't seem to find any other blogs by doing a regular search. Please let me know where I should be looking.

wirenut

this one is closed but has some nice info and photos

http://www.thecrownheightser.blogspot.com/

brooklynboy3

Subject: Re: Seeking Crown Heights Blogs - Are there Any?

nearnostrand wrote: I was doing a bit a of googling and I would like to know if there are any blogs for Crown Heights that do not have a Jewish bent and/ or specifically crime related bent. Is there one? I would really like to read something else about Crown Heights if possible. I can't seem to find any other blogs by doing a regular search. Please let me know where I should be looking.

We do have to watch out for those darn Jews...

Would be funny...if were not funny

H

sweet tea

since the biggest CH blogs i've found have been almost exclusively devoted to the lubavitch community, this doesn't seem like a weird question -- nothing wrong with wanting to know what's going on in multiple parts of the community.

perhaps a little benefit of the doubt could be in order?

brooklynboy3

Subject: Benefit of the Doubt?

sweet tea wrote: since the biggest CH blogs i've found have been almost exclusively devoted to the lubavitch community, this doesn't seem like a weird question -- nothing wrong with wanting to know what's going on in multiple parts of the community.

perhaps a little benefit of the doubt could be in order?

Perhaps a bit of "benefit of the doubt" but there are 137 ways to have used more tact to ask this question. It is seldom the content of your question but the style that inspires contempt.

By the way, seeing as we are looking for an even playing field, can you imagine asking the same question substituting "black" for Jewish?

Honestly now, if you moderate and censor posts you need to be even handed and understand all of the angles or you will lose credibility.

H

queencallipygos

Subject: Re: Benefit of the Doubt?

brooklynboy3 wrote: [quote=sweet tea]since the biggest CH blogs i've found have been almost exclusively devoted to the lubavitch community, this doesn't seem like a weird question -- nothing wrong with wanting to know what's going on in multiple parts of the community.

perhaps a little benefit of the doubt could be in order?

Perhaps a bit of "benefit of the doubt" but there are 137 ways to have used more tact to ask this question. It is seldom the content of your question but the style that inspires contempt.

By the way, seeing as we are looking for an even playing field, can you imagine asking the same question substituting "black" for Jewish?

Honestly now, if you moderate and censor posts you need to be even handed and understand all of the angles or you will lose credibility.

H

What about sweet tea's post wasn't tactful?...Please don't take that as an attack, I'm honestly and sincerely baffled.

sweet tea

lord knows i don't always understand all of the angles, though i do try my best.

i believe that part of building the beloved community is trying to assume the best of others, asking for clarification or suggesting more thoughtful constructions rather than jumping to offended conclusions.

this is my position as a human. as a mod, i'm mostly interested in forestalling fights and "censoring" outright name-calling.

brooklynboy3

Subject: Re: Benefit of the Doubt?

queencallipygos wrote: [quote=brooklynboy3][quote=sweet tea]since the biggest CH blogs i've found have been almost exclusively devoted to the lubavitch community, this doesn't seem like a weird question -- nothing wrong with wanting to know what's going on in multiple parts of the community.

perhaps a little benefit of the doubt could be in order?

Perhaps a bit of "benefit of the doubt" but there are 137 ways to have used more tact to ask this question. It is seldom the content of your question but the style that inspires contempt.

By the way, seeing as we are looking for an even playing field, can you imagine asking the same question substituting "black" for Jewish?

Honestly now, if you moderate and censor posts you need to be even handed and understand all of the angles or you will lose credibility.

H

What about sweet tea's post wasn't tactful?...Please don't take that as an attack, I'm honestly and sincerely baffled.

Sweet teas post was perfectly fine. I was making making reference to the original posting.

Sweet Tea has my admiration and respect for having to do a job that is not easy. (Some days, you can't make anyone happy...)

I just believe that the original poster could have asked the question in a host of different ways that did not seem exclusionary. It is all about tact.

H

queencallipygos

Subject: Re: Benefit of the Doubt?

brooklynboy3 wrote: Sweet teas post was perfectly fine. I was making making reference to the original posting.

Ah, that makes more sense.

I'm still not entirely in agreement that there was anything tactless about the way the original post was worded, but that could be a "tomAYto/toMAHto" thing.

And I can even understand the motivation -- I don't believe the OP was asking from a place of "I don't like them Jews", but rather was asking from a place of "while I'm glad to see so much information about the schedules of services at the local synagogue and advice about where I can get Kosher Chinese food, I'm looking for something more generically about the neighborhood." Which makes sense -- I live in Clinton Hill, and if for some reason the only blog I could find about the neighborhood was something maintained by the Admiral Row reclaimation project, I'd probably be asking a similar question.

Eh, it's the Internet. Your mileage may vary.

homeowner

One other thing to note, is that a lot of the conversation on the Jewish websites is in both Hebrew and English. They can sometimes be difficult to comprehend as a result.

hoovesontheturf

we have one here:
www.crownheightscreative.com

jack krohn

Interesting - the old map displayed in the Crown Heightster blog places the border near Franklin Avenue. Further proof that Washington Avenue is not universally considered the gateway to Crown Heights.

nearnostrand

Thank you to those of you who provided blog info.

Excuse me to anyone who thought that my post was biased and insensitive. My phrasing may have been very hurtful to you and possibly quite insulting to your sensitivites - that was not my intention.

Thank you to those of you who were able to read my post for what it was and see that there was nothing racially, ethnically, or otherwise negatively motivated or intended in my phrasing of my question. I appreciate your being able to do more than turn my quest for information (more reading opportunites) into an opportunity to point fingers when there was nothing to point at.

The fact is if you do a google search on Crown Heights, the blogs that turn up are primarily centered around issues facing a certain section of the community and/or are crime related. I asked a question - a very straightfoward question. If I happened to be, let's say, Tunisian, and the only blogs I could come up with in the neighbor hood were about Tunisian issues, but I wanted to know about more than that, see other points of view perhaps than those from a Tunisian bent, would that make me a self-hating Tunisian? No, I'm not Tunisian, or Jewish, but JEESH brooklynboy3, You're killing me - and I don't mean in the Ha! Ha! slapping my knee at the humor kind of way. I mean in the slap my hand to my forehead and shake it back and forth while I sigh kind of way.


If the truth be told, we are all biased against one thing or another. I happen to be biased against people who make quick, negative, and unyeiding assumptions based upon what they read online, having no idea as to the tone or tenor of a persons comments or questions, or the perspective from which the persons questions or comments were made. I'm not being snide, facetious, or anything else. I'm being honest about that bias.

Instead if making a snide remark about me and then going on to bring into question the abilities of a moderator, I think it might have been more helpful to perhaps ask a question about my honest point of view or intentions. That might have actually given a little more insight, but of course that's only if you really wanted to know and truly wished to effect a change in what you decided to see as bias commentary.

Let's accentuate the positive. Looking for and pointing to bias or insensitivity that isn't really there, kind of diminishes the severity of actual bias and insensitivity, making it impossible to have an honest and thought provoking conversation about these issues. Who actually determines what in the the phrasing of language is politically correct - but I suppose, as I have a habit of doing, I digress...

Anyway, I would still love to read more of what's coming out of Crown Heights - other than the stuff I have been regularly treated to and continue to read. Thanks for any more info.

brooklynboy3

nearnostrand wrote: Thank you to those of you who provided blog info.

Excuse me to anyone who thought that my post was biased and insensitive. My phrasing may have been very hurtful to you and possibly quite insulting to your sensitivites - that was not my intention.

Thank you to those of you who were able to read my post for what it was and see that there was nothing racially, ethnically, or otherwise negatively motivated or intended in my phrasing of my question. I appreciate your being able to do more than turn my quest for information (more reading opportunites) into an opportunity to point fingers when there was nothing to point at.

The fact is if you do a google search on Crown Heights, the blogs that turn up are primarily centered around issues facing a certain section of the community and/or are crime related. I asked a question - a very straightfoward question. If I happened to be, let's say, Tunisian, and the only blogs I could come up with in the neighbor hood were about Tunisian issues, but I wanted to know about more than that, see other points of view perhaps than those from a Tunisian bent, would that make me a self-hating Tunisian? No, I'm not Tunisian, or Jewish, but JEESH brooklynboy3, You're killing me - and I don't mean in the Ha! Ha! slapping my knee at the humor kind of way. I mean in the slap my hand to my forehead and shake it back and forth while I sigh kind of way.


If the truth be told, we are all biased against one thing or another. I happen to be biased against people who make quick, negative, and unyeiding assumptions based upon what they read online, having no idea as to the tone or tenor of a persons comments or questions, or the perspective from which the persons questions or comments were made. I'm not being snide, facetious, or anything else. I'm being honest about that bias.

Instead if making a snide remark about me and then going on to bring into question the abilities of a moderator, I think it might have been more helpful to perhaps ask a question about my honest point of view or intentions. That might have actually given a little more insight, but of course that's only if you really wanted to know and truly wished to effect a change in what you decided to see as bias commentary.

Let's accentuate the positive. Looking for and pointing to bias or insensitivity that isn't really there, kind of diminishes the severity of actual bias and insensitivity, making it impossible to have an honest and thought provoking conversation about these issues. Who actually determines what in the the phrasing of language is politically correct - but I suppose, as I have a habit of doing, I digress...

Anyway, I would still love to read more of what's coming out of Crown Heights - other than the stuff I have been regularly treated to and continue to read. Thanks for any more info.

Honestly, nothing personal (I do not know so it can't be personal) but I am amazed that you do not see your approach and wording to lack tact and any degree of sensitivity.

As an aside, did not elevate this to a moderator so I have no idea as to where that even comes from or what it means.

You claim to be biased against those who make "quick, negative and unyielding assumptions based upon what is read online." I understand that e-mail is a poor tool for communicating but what is one to utilize to determine meaning and intent if all that exists is the online posting? If this is all we have to go by, perhaps it is even MORE important to utilize a bit of sensitivity in making a post.

If you think I am off base, consider printing 10 of your posts and show them to those who do not know you very well. See if they think it represents the "accentuating the positive" you preach.

H

daver

brooklynboy3 wrote: Honestly, nothing personal (I do not know so it can't be personal) but I am amazed that you do not see your approach and wording to lack tact and any degree of sensitivity.

I didn't see the original post as lacking tact or sensitivity. This isn't due to knowing the poster, but rather due to knowing the subject matter. Having personally searched for blogs and whatnot I knew exactly what he was talking about when I read his initial post, and any other meaning didn't occur to me. I can see how someone who perhaps isn't as familiar with the Crown Heights blog scene, so to speak, might take it a different way. *shrug*

whatchuwant

daver wrote: [quote=brooklynboy3]Honestly, nothing personal (I do not know so it can't be personal) but I am amazed that you do not see your approach and wording to lack tact and any degree of sensitivity.

I didn't see the original post as lacking tact or sensitivity. This isn't due to knowing the poster, but rather due to knowing the subject matter. Having personally searched for blogs and whatnot I knew exactly what he was talking about when I read his initial post, and any other meaning didn't occur to me. I can see how someone who perhaps isn't as familiar with the Crown Heights blog scene, so to speak, might take it a different way. *shrug*

I agree- I personally saw this argument as a bit of a stretch myself. Give it a rest already! Me thinks the heats gettin' to folks.

brooklynboy3

Subject: Agreed

Whatchuwant wrote: [quote=daver][quote=brooklynboy3]Honestly, nothing personal (I do not know so it can't be personal) but I am amazed that you do not see your approach and wording to lack tact and any degree of sensitivity.

I didn't see the original post as lacking tact or sensitivity. This isn't due to knowing the poster, but rather due to knowing the subject matter. Having personally searched for blogs and whatnot I knew exactly what he was talking about when I read his initial post, and any other meaning didn't occur to me. I can see how someone who perhaps isn't as familiar with the Crown Heights blog scene, so to speak, might take it a different way. *shrug*

I agree- I personally saw this argument as a bit of a stretch myself. Give it a rest already! Me thinks the heats gettin' to folks.

You are right.

No sense making a big deal.

Happy summer.

H

allanr

Subject: Blog

http://thecrownheightser.blogspot.com is back in business.They are requesting writers btw.

marla_singer

I'm digging http://www.crownheightscreative.com/. Thanks for posting it!

Right now, she has a post looking for women to be photographed wearing the yellow dress.
http://www.crownheightscreative.com/yellow-dress

I was so intrigued that I replied to her and am going to be photo'd next week! I love participating in art.