i am mad at bagel factory

jamzer

Do people think this place has good bagels? My brother likes the bagels, but I think they suck.

brooklynpotter

this is the place on 5th ave in south south slope.bagel factory (NOTE: edited to change name of bagel store)

jamzer

brooklynpotter wrote: this is the place on 5th ave in south south slope. if the name isn't bael world i will cut my head off

The one on 5th Ave near JJ Byrne park (soon to be renamed George Washington Park I believe). Yes - it is called Bagel World.

brooklynpotter

uh oh. i need a mod.

brooklynpotter

it's the place on 17th/5th. if it has a different name, i want to go through the entire thread and change it.

longtimesloper

brooklynpotter wrote: it's the place on 17th/5th. if it has a different name, i want to go through the entire thread and change it.

Ok, this entire time I thought you were talking about the place on 5th Avenue and 4th Street across from JJ Byrne park-that place is called Bagel World. Gee, I have been hating the wrong bagel place for an entire day now

brooklynpotter

(NOTE: edited to change name of bagel store)

again, i'm trying to find the name of the place (found:bagelfactory)) and i'm going to go through the entire thread and change it. the whole thread. and if i were catholic, i'd go to confession. and if you want me to go to bagel world and apologize to the owners in person, i will do so.

longtimesloper

The owner of BagelWorld is kind of cute, you might want to drop by and meet him anyway if you are single gal

brooklynpotter

that's sweet, but i'm taken. by a fellow brooklynian no less

longtimesloper

^^oh? Now I am curious

brooklynpotter

:-)

whatchuwant

We should set up a new section of Brooklynian strictly for hook-ups!

Cause BP and her man aren't the only ones....

caaahyoko

Ohhhhh, you're talking about Bagel Factory. The one with the red benches outside, right?

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-bagel-factory-brooklyn

toadette

brooklynpotter wrote: the texture would be different if it were just whole wheat. which would be leaden unless they added other flours or extra gluten. (in the weeks since i've read a whole lot about baking and whole wheat flour. 100% whole wheat would be a hockey puck. if i'd known that then i would have called the guy on it.)

So does this mean you're going to stop searching for whole wheat bagels or are you just going to shop for them at Sport Prospect now?

transplant

Ohhhhhh, yeah, the whole time I was defending Bagel World, on 5th and 4th St...not that it changes my argument, but I would have conceded the point a lot easier if I wasn't motivated by loyalty to my favorite breakfast spot

brooklynpotter

caaahyoko wrote: Ohhhhh, you're talking about Bagel Factory. The one with the red benches outside, right?

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-bagel-factory-brooklyn

yes! going to change posts right now

brooklynpotter

ok, i changed the title and all my posts.

whynot_31

you seem to be atoning well.

bkchickie

brooklynpotter wrote: totally disagree. all of my sarcasm aside, you should be able to ask the people there what the ingredients in your food are.

more so, i specifically asked for the owner, asked if he was the one who made the whole wheat bagels, asked if the flour was only whole wheat, and then told him i needed to know because i am allergic to white flour. (again, i have a small intolerance/sensitivity. anyone with issues like this will tell you that unless you tell food prep people that you're deathly allergic--the same goes for people on this board, as i've noticed--they don't take you seriously.)

the owner lied to me, pure and simple. it wasn't some counter guy or bus boy, it was the owner who told me he made the bagels himself. i don't think that's acceptable.

He probably used the white flour, but I have seen (and have bought) white whole-wheat flour. It's from a white grain. You can use it as you would normal white flour (although I would not attempt any complicated baking with it) with only a small difference in weight and texture.

Still, if I would not be surprised at all to find white flour in bagels. As someone with a food allergy, I have found that some people either tell you what they think that you want to hear, or make up an answer on the spot to an ingredients inquiry. It's only when they are pressed "Gee, how do you make your bagels with ONLY whole-wheat flour? How do you keep them from becoming too dense?" that you can tell.

brooklynpotter

i think we should call arnold diaz and get a bagel and have it tested. or maybe i'm just bored at work.

redmenace

brooklynpotter wrote: i think we should call arnold diaz and get a bagel and have it tested. or maybe i'm just bored at work.

No offense, but in light of the economy and the fact that some of us just lost jobs and a whole bunch of life savings, complaining about a sub par bagel seems petty.

violet

redmenace wrote: No offense, but in light of the economy and the fact that some of us just lost jobs and a whole bunch of life savings, complaining about a sub par bagel seems petty.

Redmenace - I'm sorry for your losses.
I almost cried at work the other day over what is going on in the world.
And it's hard for me not to be constantly worrying about finances and whether I'll have a job next year.
Constantly.
It's the kind of stress that is keeping my shoulders tense and my heart rate up all the time.
And it is very much outside of my control.

So sometimes it is nice to think about other things.
And for me this thread is an amusing and interesting diversion.
For some of us it is a serious issue:
I'm a vegetarian who has to over-question people all the time to try to avoid meat and meat products in food they cook and sell.
I have to trust them.
And I far prefer whole grains; simple carbs put me to sleep, like chaplin'smom, so I only eat them at night.
Additionally, the story is entertainingly told, I think!
And I like listening to respectful debates.
And it's not a "sub par bagel" at issue.
It's a lie. A relatively petty lie, but a LIE even so.

This is not as serious an issue as the economy, or the war, or any number of other issues.
Believe me - I think about those things a LOT.
It is a more managable issue though.
A nice distraction.

daver

redmenace wrote: [quote=brooklynpotter]i think we should call arnold diaz and get a bagel and have it tested. or maybe i'm just bored at work.

No offense, but in light of the economy and the fact that some of us just lost jobs and a whole bunch of life savings, complaining about a sub par bagel seems petty.
Don't forget about the starving children in Africa.

They could eat for a whole month on that bagel.

And what is left of one's life savings could probably feeds whole villages for years.

Fucking capitalists.

redmenace

Violet wrote: [quote=redmenace]No offense, but in light of the economy and the fact that some of us just lost jobs and a whole bunch of life savings, complaining about a sub par bagel seems petty.

Redmenace - I'm sorry for your losses.
I almost cried at work the other day over what is going on in the world.
And it's hard for me not to be constantly worrying about finances and whether I'll have a job next year.
Constantly.
It's the kind of stress that is keeping my shoulders tense and my heart rate up all the time.
And it is very much outside of my control.

So sometimes it is nice to think about other things.
And for me this thread is an amusing and interesting diversion.
For some of us it is a serious issue:
I'm a vegetarian who has to over-question people all the time to try to avoid meat and meat products in food they cook and sell.
I have to trust them.
And I far prefer whole grains; simple carbs put me to sleep, like chaplin'smom, so I only eat them at night.
Additionally, the story is entertainingly told, I think!
And I like listening to respectful debates.
And it's not a "sub par bagel" at issue.
It's a lie. A relatively petty lie, but a LIE even so.

This is not as serious an issue as the economy, or the war, or any number of other issues.
Believe me - I think about those things a LOT.
It is a more managable issue though.
A nice distraction.

I dunno. I saw a homeless guy get tazered today near the Trader Joes. I'm not feeling the love in the economy. I am friends with the Bagel World people, and don't feel great about them getting mistakenly identified in this.

This bagel thing is hardly a crime against humanity, and is probably not a "lie". Unless the bagel place grinds the flour themselves, there is no way for them to know what the ratio of whole wheat to white flour was in the mix. Perhaps it was a mistake - like the OP made in identifying the place. Maybe i just don't share the same sense of humor or see why this is funny.

brooklynpotter

or, perhaps, because you don't like me in the first place you saw a thread i wrote--where i made a mistake and did my best to fix it--and decided to be snarky to me. wasn't the first time, won't be the last.

as for this:

redmenace wrote: Unless the bagel place grinds the flour themselves, there is no way for them to know what the ratio of whole wheat to white flour was in the mix.

that's just ridiculous. white flour comes in bags marked white flour. wheat flour comes in bags marked whole wheat flour. they look totally different. aside from the fact that the man told me he made the bagels himself.

but you know what? you're right. our economy is tanking. people are dying. the world just sucks all over the place. what a petty person i must be to be upset about bagels. gee whiz.

redmenace

brooklynpotter wrote: or, perhaps, because you don't like me in the first place you saw a thread i wrote--where i made a mistake and did my best to fix it--and decided to be snarky to me. wasn't the first time, won't be the last.

as for this:
[quote=redmenace]Unless the bagel place grinds the flour themselves, there is no way for them to know what the ratio of whole wheat to white flour was in the mix.

that's just ridiculous. white flour comes in bags marked white flour. wheat flour comes in bags marked whole wheat flour. they look totally different. aside from the fact that the man told me he made the bagels himself.

but you know what? you're right. our economy is tanking. people are dying. the world just sucks all over the place. what a petty person i must be to be upset about bagels. gee whiz.

I didn't say anything untoward about you, so get over yourself. I just think that, if this is a person's biggest problem and is ruining they're day, well, you should be grateful.