THE COFFEE IS COMING!

ap

The more the merrier... sounds like there will be something for everyone on Franklin Av. in the near future!

Best of luck to everyone trying to start a business and improve our great neighborhood! We'll be there to support you with our dollars.

AP

prospectheightsyo

What is up with coffee shops opening at 10am + on the weekends? Can someone open a coffee shop at 8am on a Saturday morning? I wake up at 7:30.

idemandasafenabe

tonyfisher wrote: I thinks under the circumstances i would rather have another coffee house in the area compared to another hair salon. Whatever. I think that you should know that i am very well aware of what ORGANIC is. And i would like to say that since this is sort of getting like a "cyberwar" (being that you keep posting under my blog) I will stick to my guns and not give away too much info at this time. All that i have to say is that i always wish people well. We must work hard to pick up the standard of stores on FA. Hopefully if all runs well, I will be closing Fishers some time towards the end of the year to make way for a more natural market. We will see. The only thing that prevented me from doing this in the past was the $$$$$$$$$$$. The banks didnt want to lend. We will see what happens now. Later Kiddies!
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Tony, I don't think that Breukelen Coffee is gearing up for "cyberwar" by posting under "your blog" but rather did it for the simple reason that they too are opening a coffee shop and hence the same topic as your thread and therefore not necessitating the start of a new thread. On the issue of "what ORGANIC is" I think it was a direct response to your comment on it by saying "whatever that is" which could easily be understood to mean that you didn't know what "ORGANIC" is...obviously I'm sure you knew the meaning. Nonetheless GOOD LUCK to both your establishments and I'm sure I and many others will patronize both coffee shops. /

asil

IDemandASafeNabe wrote: On the issue of "what ORGANIC is" I think it was a direct response to your comment on it by saying "whatever that is" which could easily be understood to mean that you didn't know what "ORGANIC" is...obviously I'm sure you knew the meaning. Nonetheless GOOD LUCK to both your establishments and I'm sure I and many others will patronize both coffee shops. /

Well, nothing personal and I wish Tony's shop all the best, but I for one am much more likely to patronize a shop that serves organic coffee. Eco-friendly, sustainable agricultural practices are important to the health of the soil, beneficial insects, wildlife, and the workers who grow the coffee. Growing under a canopy of trees (shade-grown) reduces the need for irrigation, conserves water, allows for diversification in forest products, and prevents deforestation, soil erosion, and habitat loss.

debya

Breukelen Coffee House wrote:
Sat 10:00AM-6:00PM
Sun 12:00PM-5:00PM

I echo the sentiment that it would be great if you opened up earlier on the weekends. Hopefully, many other people will feel the same way as me.

I also hope that you'll pair your organic coffee with equally sustainable baked goods that are made with organic ingredients and without animal products.

When do you expect to open?

ishtar

prospectheightsyo wrote: What is up with coffee shops opening at 10am + on the weekends? Can someone open a coffee shop at 8am on a Saturday morning? I wake up at 7:30.

This is why I walk to Dunkin Donuts. I hate that they use styrofoam cups.

I think I'm going to start taking a travel mug down there.

xlizellx

Ishtar wrote: [quote=prospectheightsyo]What is up with coffee shops opening at 10am + on the weekends? Can someone open a coffee shop at 8am on a Saturday morning? I wake up at 7:30.

This is why I walk to Dunkin Donuts.
I think I'm going to start taking a travel mug down there.

i believe there is a discount if you do that.

catwalkertexasranger

Meagan's law should apply. If somebody is moving in and could harm me I should know.Please Mr F don't touch my dirty place

breukelen coffee house

Debya,

Thank you for your post!

To answer your question, yes, vegan options will be available.

The Breukelen Coffee House is a holistic and organic coffee shop. Our intention is to serve organic whenever we can (we are aiming for 100% of the time- but it's not always available and accessible).

We are proudly serving Stumptown Organic Coffee. And organic milks: almond, hazelnut, oat and hemp milk. Milk will not be available nor conventional sugar. We will only be serving non processed, all natural sweetners such as stevia, agave syrup and Manuka honey.

We'll also have delicious organic smoothies!

Equally important are the holistic workshops we'll be holding. They will focus on proper breath, proper hydration, eating with 'life foods', etc, etc.

Our motto is: Order anything from our menu without guilt! Holistic, healthy eating is what we do and where we pride ourselves.

Last but not least- we've heard your requests! We will adjust our weekend hours of operation to:

Mon-Fri 7:00AM-7:00PM
Sat 7:00AM-6:00PM
Sun 7:00AM-5:00PM

xlizellx

i do love your name choice
http://www.ny400.org/history/marty-markowitz-on-the-brooklyn-breukelen-connection

debya

Breukelen Coffee House wrote: Debya,

Thank you for your post!

To answer your question, yes, vegan options will be available.

Awesome! And, three thumbs up for Stumptown!

When is your projected opening date?

xlizellx

IDemandASafeNabe wrote: Nonetheless GOOD LUCK to both your establishments and I'm sure I and many others will patronize both coffee shops. /

I agree -- they sound like 2 very different places with different types of products and (Assumingly) different motives/pricepoints/interests. I think both can/will succeed due to the fact that they aren't both exactly the same.

I can't wait though -- I am now walking the 3 miles to work each morning and a cup of coffee for the road is just what I need.

sweet tea

good luck, but you lost me right here:

Breukelen Coffee House wrote: Milk will not be available nor conventional sugar.

i hope you'll reconsider. it's great that you'll offer other options, but i suspect i am not the only customer who would feel unpleasantly shocked by this discovery after buying my coffee.

architecture biscuit

sweet tea wrote: good luck, but you lost me right here:

[quote=Breukelen Coffee House]Milk will not be available nor conventional sugar.

i hope you'll reconsider. it's great that you'll offer other options, but i suspect i am not the only customer who would feel unpleasantly shocked by this discovery after buying my coffee.

Yeah, I'm with Sweet Tea on this one.

Why would you not carry milk or sugar?

carnivore

Architecture Biscuit wrote: [quote=sweet tea]good luck, but you lost me right here:

[quote=Breukelen Coffee House]Milk will not be available nor conventional sugar.

i hope you'll reconsider. it's great that you'll offer other options, but i suspect i am not the only customer who would feel unpleasantly shocked by this discovery after buying my coffee.

Yeah, I'm with Sweet Tea on this one.

Why would you not carry milk or sugar?

Me too. I need real milk for my coffee. Maybe get organic milk? Soy, hazelnut, hemp, almond milk or whatever are just not acceptable substitutes any more than Cremora is. I love Stumptown, and I think it's great that you're providing vegan options, but you're seriously limiting your clientele in that location if you don't provide real milk for the non-vegans.

debya

Doesn't anyone drink their coffee black anymore? (Even my sweet, Southern belle mama doesn't need to put milk or sugar in her coffee.)

(I support the use of non-dairy milk and non-processed sugar. But, I'm not surprised that the majority of future customers will request/expect dairy options.)

whatchuwant

SPLENDA!

idemandasafenabe

Carnivore wrote: [quote=Architecture Biscuit][quote=sweet tea]good luck, but you lost me right here:

[quote=Breukelen Coffee House]Milk will not be available nor conventional sugar.

i hope you'll reconsider. it's great that you'll offer other options, but i suspect i am not the only customer who would feel unpleasantly shocked by this discovery after buying my coffee.

Yeah, I'm with Sweet Tea on this one.

Why would you not carry milk or sugar?

Me too. I need real milk for my coffee. Maybe get organic milk? Soy, hazelnut, hemp, almond milk or whatever are just not acceptable substitutes any more than Cremora is. I love Stumptown, and I think it's great that you're providing vegan options, but you're seriously limiting your clientele in that location if you don't provide real milk for the non-vegans.

Yup! Me too. Milk please. :bounce:

carnivore

debya wrote: Doesn't anyone drink their coffee black anymore? (Even my sweet, Southern belle mama doesn't need to put milk or sugar in her coffee.)

(I support the use of non-dairy milk and non-processed sugar. But, I'm not surprised that the majority of future customers will request/expect dairy options.)

It's kind of like opening a french fry place and announcing you're not going to serve ketchup. Sure, plenty of people like fries with other condiments, or with none at all, but you're going to lose a bunch of customers.

whynot_31

Ditto.

...kinda like Whole Foods refuses to sell its largely female customer base Diet Coke.

can't they give folks what they want?

asil

It's a niche market, and some folks will want it. Why shouldn't they give it a try? They may find it's not the best business plan and have to start serving milk, but it sounds like they have a specific idea in mind of what they want the shop to be. So again, why not? There are more and more places in the nabe to get coffee, so if you must have milk there are other places to go.

I've left coffeeshops many times with black coffee (which is not so bad!) because I don't do dairy and they didn't have soy. So I'm thrilled to have a choice of various non-dairy milks.

sweet tea

Asil wrote: There are more and more places in the nabe to get coffee, so if you must have milk there are other places to go.

agreed, and i'll certainly do so. it just seems like a ridiculous thing to lose customers over.

debya

sweet tea wrote: [quote=Asil]There are more and more places in the nabe to get coffee, so if you must have milk there are other places to go.

agreed, and i'll certainly do so. it just seems like a ridiculous thing to lose customers over.

Well, it's not ridiculous depending on their motivation for not offering dairy milk. Sure, it's not easy to run a coffee house without dairy milk, but my friend in Portland is able to do it. Could her vegan coffee/bakery shop also survive in Crown Heights? Maaaybe.

sweet tea

well, regardless, i'm grateful for the warning.

fwiw, my "good luck" is genuine -- i'd rather see a thriving business on franklin that doesn't cater to me than another empty storefront.

ntfool

sweet tea wrote: [quote=Asil]There are more and more places in the nabe to get coffee, so if you must have milk there are other places to go.

agreed, and i'll certainly do so. it just seems like a ridiculous thing to lose customers over.

Yup. I'm going to Tony's.

prospectheightsyo

I really hope you do open at 7am!

catwalkertexasranger

I am betting that milk will be available within the first hour or the first 10 customers through the door which ever comes first. CH loves milk. Nobody makes a stand at the cash register

isa

Wow, a vegan coffee shop on Franklin ave! So so cool. It may just make me move back to Brooklyn. Stick to your guns on the non-dairy milks, you'll have a clientele. There are some really wonderful non-dairy creamers out there, too. Try Wildwood soy creamer and So Delicious coconut milk creamer. They're both rich and delicious.

carnivore

Isa wrote: Wow, a vegan coffee shop on Franklin ave! So so cool. It may just make me move back to Brooklyn. Stick to your guns on the non-dairy milks, you'll have a clientele. There are some really wonderful non-dairy creamers out there, too. Try Wildwood soy creamer and So Delicious coconut milk creamer. They're both rich and delicious.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that they not carry all of the non-dairy milks. Just that they would have a much wider customer base if they included a dairy option. You know, kind of like how non-vegetarian restaurants have vegetarian options so that they can have vegetarian customers too. For a large segment of the population (perhaps a majority, although I'm not sure), having milk is integral to the experience of enjoying the primary product being sold here (coffee), and those people will not even consider going to a place that doesn't have milk. I don't understand why someone would turn away all those customers. I'm curious if the owners have done any kind of market research about whether they'll have an adequate customer base to even cover their overhead before committing to this concept.

architecture biscuit

Carnivore wrote: [quote=Isa]Wow, a vegan coffee shop on Franklin ave! So so cool. It may just make me move back to Brooklyn. Stick to your guns on the non-dairy milks, you'll have a clientele. There are some really wonderful non-dairy creamers out there, too. Try Wildwood soy creamer and So Delicious coconut milk creamer. They're both rich and delicious.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that they not carry all of the non-dairy milks. Just that they would have a much wider customer base if they included a dairy option. You know, kind of like how non-vegetarian restaurants have vegetarian options so that they can have vegetarian customers too. For a large segment of the population (perhaps a majority, although I'm not sure), having milk is integral to the experience of enjoying the primary product being sold here (coffee), and those people will not even consider going to a place that doesn't have milk. I don't understand why someone would turn away all those customers. I'm curious if the owners have done any kind of market research about whether they'll have an adequate customer base to even cover their overhead before committing to this concept.

In addition to this, it seems odd to me that a place that appears to be quite eco-conscious would commit to a concept that is certain to drive a lot of potential to customers to less eco-friendly competitors.