What could this mean?
I was walking along Flatbush, just past Seventh Avenue and an Indian man who looked to be in his late 30s or maybe older stopped me. I thought he was going to ask me directions to someplace but instead he asked me if I'd accompany him to the park. I think his exact words were, "can you come to the park with me?" I thought it was some sort of odd joke so I sort of laughed nervously and said no and then he asked the same question again. He looked confused when I turned and walked away from him. Weird.
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This is the beginning of a really good story... unfortunately, it stops a bit short.
By the time you're done with PS/PH, you'll be able to write an anthropological treatise on the bizarre and inappropriate behaviors of 1st generation Brooklynite males of African/Asian descent. -
Subject: Re: What could this mean?
law&disorder wrote: I was walking along Flatbush, just past Seventh Avenue and an Indian man who looked to be in his late 30s or maybe older stopped me. I thought he was going to ask me directions to someplace but instead he asked me if I'd accompany him to the park. I think his exact words were, "can you come to the park with me?" I thought it was some sort of odd joke so I sort of laughed nervously and said no and then he asked the same question again. He looked confused when I turned and walked away from him. Weird.
maybe he was lost? and new to the area? -
A few years ago, an elderly lady asked me where Windsor Terrace was, we were in the park in the early am. Turns out she had parked there, come into the park and got lost. I walked her out and we found her car. It sounds like he might have needed some help. :?
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Subject: Re: What could this mean?
armchair_warrior wrote: [quote=law&disorder]I was walking along Flatbush, just past Seventh Avenue and an Indian man who looked to be in his late 30s or maybe older stopped me. I thought he was going to ask me directions to someplace but instead he asked me if I'd accompany him to the park. I think his exact words were, "can you come to the park with me?" I thought it was some sort of odd joke so I sort of laughed nervously and said no and then he asked the same question again. He looked confused when I turned and walked away from him. Weird.
maybe he was lost? and new to the area?
It's possible. However he didn't look at all distressed when he approached me. He was strolling casually toward me and he looked me up and down before stopping me. -
You just got cruised, that's all. Poor guy is probably totally closeted and from a culture that isn't going to ever allow him to feel comfortable coming out.
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apollonia666 wrote: You just got cruised, that's all. Poor guy is probably totally closeted and from a culture that isn't going to ever allow him to feel comfortable coming out.
Interesting. Since I'm a woman and do not look like a man, why would a man be "cruising" me? -
law&disorder wrote: [quote=apollonia666]You just got cruised, that's all. Poor guy is probably totally closeted and from a culture that isn't going to ever allow him to feel comfortable coming out.
Interesting. Since I'm a woman and do not look like a man, why would a man be "cruising" me?
D'oh! I don't know why I assumed you were a guy; I guess it just sounded very much like a cruising encounter. Hrrm. Maybe he was just trying to meet a nice girl in a rather clumsy way, then? -
either he was trying to get some
or
he was confused
and we're about to feel bad when we see his family looking for him on a tragic Missing Elder/Alzheimers poster
which do you think it was? -
pitu wrote: either he was trying to get some
hope he is trying to get some cause the other one would be very sad and tragic
or
he was confused
and we're about to feel bad when we see his family looking for him on a tragic Missing Elder/Alzheimers poster
which do you think it was?. -
armchair_warrior wrote: hope he is trying to get some cause the other one would be very sad and tragic
Yes because it's much better to be approached by someone who just wants to lure you into the park and rape you than someone who's confused.. -
You have to think that you encounter a lot of cultures in NYC, some are good experiences and some are not.
Here is an example:
My sister seems to draw a lot of attention from Indian & Pakistany men, and unfortunately for her she is shy and seems, I guess, approachable to these men.
Few years ago, she made the mistake of politely respond to the conversation of a Pakistany in the subway. Why????
The man would not leave her alone and started stalking her, waiting for her first in the subway and then outside her job, bringing her gifts. It got to the point that my father had to intervene.
Can you imagine that my sister asking him to stop it, did not register on his mind but my father telling her to leave her alone did. And my father is also a very soft spoken and mild mannered man. It's just the culture that is so sexist that feel they word (or desire) is the law.
Perhaps this person has is recently arrived to the USA and thinks he can just approach anyone he feels like it.
In any case better safe than sorry. -
Well the guy appeared to be just really determined to get me to go the park with him and he also seemed confident that I would go. I actually got the impression that he thought I was a prostitute or something. I've also heard people say that in certain countries, men are under the impression that all American women are whores and are up for sex any time and with any one. I don't know. Maybe he'd seen one too many Nelly videos and assumed that black women are just especially whore-ish.
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LOCK YOU HOLES! :twisted:
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wait- those nelly videos aren't like real life? my whole world has been turned upside down...
seriously though, i have met a lot of people from other countries who are living under the pretense that american girls will do pretty much anything whenever. I have done my best to dispel these rumors among the foreign men, but I think they mostly conclude that I am just a giant loser with no power to woo even the easiest of american women. -
teddyballgame wrote: wait- those nelly videos aren't like real life? my whole world has been turned upside down...
I just got back from M3 in Miami. final event I attended was a 2 live crew concert (I got in free, ok?). anyway, I was approached by a very hot dude from London who got really irritated when I didn't want to dance with him like the girls on the stage. and then when the crew started pulling audience members (women) up on the stage to make out with each other, as is their MO, the guy got even MORE irritated with my refusal. I was like "dude, I'm NOT them - they're ghetto ass hoes here on spring break. I'm not a ghetto ass ho, or here for spring break!" so I guess this misconception is held ... everywhere.
seriously though, i have met a lot of people from other countries who are living under the pretense that american girls will do pretty much anything whenever. I have done my best to dispel these rumors among the foreign men, but I think they mostly conclude that I am just a giant loser with no power to woo even the easiest of american women.
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Subject: that guy- if he is the same- is kind of scary- beware!
Is he tall?
Full head of dark- wavy-ish hair?
If it is- be careful.
This is my story of a wacko in the neoghborhood.
It happened in the late fall/begin of winter.
I was coming out of the train station at 7th Ave- Park Pl.
I was carrying flowers and he commented on them- I said thanks and then, he kept trying to make conversation-
Him: What are they called?
Me: Roses
Then he kept talking - it took me half a block to brush him off, but he was really determined and I had to keep telling him I didn't understand to get him to go away.
So i was a little weirded out.
Then, like a month later, same guy approaches me after I get out of the train- he is walking with me and and still talking away- asking me
Do you live here?
Where are you from?
Where do you live?
and he kept this up for about a block- I kept telling him no or around trying to make him go away. I finally told him to leave me alone and I went into the Met to get away from him cause at this point I was afraid that he was going to follow me home.
I told the guys in the Met and they went out to try to get a look at him, but he was gone.
They told me about another guy that they had been trying to chase off, but he is older and has white hair.
so be careful ladies
oh and I'm a girl. -
Subject: Re: that guy- if he is the same- is kind of scary- beware!
Minet wrote: Is he tall?
holy shit - that actually sounds like him and that is the same area where he approached me too!
Full head of dark- wavy-ish hair?
If it is- be careful.
This is my story of a wacko in the neoghborhood.
It happened in the late fall/begin of winter.
I was coming out of the train station at 7th Ave- Park Pl.
I was carrying flowers and he commented on them- I said thanks and then, he kept trying to make conversation-
Him: What are they called?
Me: Roses
Then he kept talking - it took me half a block to brush him off, but he was really determined and I had to keep telling him I didn't understand to get him to go away.
So i was a little weirded out.
Then, like a month later, same guy approaches me after I get out of the train- he is walking with me and and still talking away- asking me
Do you live here?
Where are you from?
Where do you live?
and he kept this up for about a block- I kept telling him no or around trying to make him go away. I finally told him to leave me alone and I went into the Met to get away from him cause at this point I was afraid that he was going to follow me home.
I told the guys in the Met and they went out to try to get a look at him, but he was gone.
They told me about another guy that they had been trying to chase off, but he is older and has white hair.
so be careful ladies
oh and I'm a girl. -
Subject: Re: that guy- if he is the same- is kind of scary- beware!
law&disorder wrote: [quote=Minet]Is he tall?
holy shit - that actually sounds like him and that is the same area where he approached me too!
Full head of dark- wavy-ish hair?
If it is- be careful.
This is my story of a wacko in the neoghborhood....
I love the Internets!
Track those creepy stories . . . post those cell phone photos . . . -
Subject: Re: that guy- if he is the same- is kind of scary- beware!
pitu wrote: [quote=law&disorder][quote=Minet]Is he tall?
holy shit - that actually sounds like him and that is the same area where he approached me too!
Full head of dark- wavy-ish hair?
If it is- be careful.
This is my story of a wacko in the neoghborhood....
I love the Internets!
Track those creepy stories . . . post those cell phone photos . . .
As Pitu says . . . . camera phones
http://hollabacknyc.blogspot.com/ -
So this guy's sin is being socially maladjusted and poor at hitting on women? For the love of God, make sure you get his picture so we can plaster the community with it!
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devincf wrote: So this guy's sin is being socially maladjusted and poor at hitting on women? For the love of God, make sure you get his picture so we can plaster the community with it!
Do you know him Devin? Is he a friend of yours? How would you know? Were you there? After what happened to the young John Jay College student I hope no woman takes any chances including the ones that you love. -
stacey wrote: [quote=devincf]So this guy's sin is being socially maladjusted and poor at hitting on women? For the love of God, make sure you get his picture so we can plaster the community with it!
Do you know him Devin? Is he a friend of yours? How would you know? Were you there? After what happened to the young John Jay College student I hope no woman takes any chances including the ones that you love.
This is ridiculous. Every man that approaches you on the street is a potential sex murderer? How can you possibly live life in such fear? I have seen you people get up in arms about some silly stuff, but a dude who hits on women?? You're taking the cake here. I'm amazed some of you have the ability to walk out of your houses, considering how you see the world. -
devincf wrote: [quote=stacey][quote=devincf]So this guy's sin is being socially maladjusted and poor at hitting on women? For the love of God, make sure you get his picture so we can plaster the community with it!
Do you know him Devin? Is he a friend of yours? How would you know? Were you there? After what happened to the young John Jay College student I hope no woman takes any chances including the ones that you love.
This is ridiculous. Every man that approaches you on the street is a potential sex murderer? How can you possibly live life in such fear? I have seen you people get up in arms about some silly stuff, but a dude who hits on women?? You're taking the cake here. I'm amazed some of you have the ability to walk out of your houses, considering how you see the world.
Devin I have lived here all my life and have gotten this far by being careful. I personally would handle it a different way but who am or you to say how other women should handle it. -
Handle it how you want, but once you're taking pictures of innocent people and posting them on the web for the high crime of hitting on you, I think you're handling it in the wrong way.
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devincf wrote: [quote=stacey][quote=devincf]So this guy's sin is being socially maladjusted and poor at hitting on women? For the love of God, make sure you get his picture so we can plaster the community with it!
Do you know him Devin? Is he a friend of yours? How would you know? Were you there? After what happened to the young John Jay College student I hope no woman takes any chances including the ones that you love.
This is ridiculous. Every man that approaches you on the street is a potential sex murderer? How can you possibly live life in such fear? I have seen you people get up in arms about some silly stuff, but a dude who hits on women?? You're taking the cake here. I'm amazed some of you have the ability to walk out of your houses, considering how you see the world.
It's not fear, it's being smart. Hell yes, women should be careful about guys who approach them on the street and don't take no for an answer. Maybe he is harmless, but how do you or anyone else know that for sure? Knowing to be assertive in keeping people like that at bay and knowing to take extra steps like ducking into an open store if necessary make one LESS fearful about dealing with street weirdos, not more. -
devincf wrote: [quote=stacey][quote=devincf]So this guy's sin is being socially maladjusted and poor at hitting on women? For the love of God, make sure you get his picture so we can plaster the community with it!
Do you know him Devin? Is he a friend of yours? How would you know? Were you there? After what happened to the young John Jay College student I hope no woman takes any chances including the ones that you love.
This is ridiculous. Every man that approaches you on the street is a potential sex murderer? How can you possibly live life in such fear? I have seen you people get up in arms about some silly stuff, but a dude who hits on women?? You're taking the cake here. I'm amazed some of you have the ability to walk out of your houses, considering how you see the world.
Following someone for half a block until they become verbally hostile is more than just hitting on someone or being approached. I know I'd be totally freaked out and frightened if that happened to me. no actual crime or overt threat may have occurred but that doesn't make the event any less scary.
and after that john jay incident, every woman I know (myself included) is being a little more wary about their personal safety.
finally, I have no problem with posting photos of this guy - we've posted photos of pushy panhandlers and subway masterbators before. just cause this jerk is panhandling for a date/sex doesn't make him any more or less a pushy jerk. -
I forgot that this is a board for people who tend to be singularly unsuited for living in a major city. If that guy had been hitting on you while double parking in front of the police station, you might have killed him!
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devincf wrote: Handle it how you want, but once you're taking pictures of innocent people and posting them on the web for the high crime of hitting on you, I think you're handling it in the wrong way.
I do understand where you are coming from but there is also a lot of frustration on some women's part on being constantly hassled/approached, etc. by strangers. I particularly do not being called Mami by anyone else but my son. I am tired of men coming up to me and touching my arm and asking if they can walk with me. I cannot stand the whistling or the cat calls or the psst pssts as I walk by. I have had men come up to me nicely and say can we talk and I usually smile, say thanks but Im married only to have them say me too so what? I guess as a woman I see it differently than you
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devincf wrote: I forgot that this is a board for people who tend to be singularly unsuited for living in a major city. If that guy had been hitting on you while double parking in front of the police station, you might have killed him!
Yeah, Devin knows exactly what it's like to be a single woman having to deal with overly aggressive guys day in and day out...oh wait... I'd bet you'd tell your sister or daughter to "just ignore the creep following you! It's just a New York thing!" :roll: -
Candicissima wrote: [quote=devincf]I forgot that this is a board for people who tend to be singularly unsuited for living in a major city. If that guy had been hitting on you while double parking in front of the police station, you might have killed him!
Yeah, Devin knows exactly what it's like to be a single woman having to deal with overly aggressive guys day in and day out...oh wait... I'd bet you'd tell your sister or daughter to "just ignore the creep following you! It's just a New York thing!" :roll:
right? the cable repairman who wants to hang out and watch cable with you? and "oh, sweetie, you got beer? I sure could use one." cause being alone with someone like that in your apartment, your only defense saying "look, please leave. if you don't leave I'll call the police.", is really something that wouldn't be scary in west bumblefuck, idaho. it's only scary in brooklyn. oh, I forgot, I'm supposed to go live in west bumblefuck, idaho, since I'm not a native new yorker.
(the cable guy incident happened to me last year. I reported him to cable vision.)
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