has the ticket maids in brooklyn been manhattanise?

armchair_warrior

in the past i could be double park and siting in the car. and they would leave me alone. recently they'll tell me to move along even though i'm siting in there. it use to never happen, only happens in mahattan.

findcate

i got a $115 ticket yesterday for parking in the bike lane on 2nd street--but the thing is like ONE of my tires was like 2 inches over the line! uggggh.

i've also been told to move along.

homeowner

Got you beat I got not one but TWO $115 tickets for parking less than six feet from a hydrant when the trunk of my car was about one inch past the yellow painted line. One ticket from a meter maid, and a second one from a police officer twenty minutes later.

The only good thing is I was on a business trip so I'm paying them and writing them off as a business expense.

Wish they were that diligent about the drug sales...

armchair_warrior

once i had a triscooter cop thing block me and claiming i was double park. i just let a friend out of the car when pulling over. and he gave me a ticket but the worse thing was it took him like half a hr to find the address of where we were. cause these places had scafolding blocking. anyway i won it in court lol.

findcate

that IS bad! do you have to pay both? if you get two tickets for the same offense on the same day...i thought you'd only have to pay one, no?

metulj

findcate wrote: that IS bad! do you have to pay both? if you get two tickets for the same offense on the same day...i thought you'd only have to pay one, no?

Nope. Both if written by different officers. I tried to beat a similar sitch on street sweeping ticket and got laughed at.

muteflute

findcate wrote: i got a $115 ticket yesterday for parking in the bike lane on 2nd street--but the thing is like ONE of my tires was like 2 inches over the line! uggggh.

i've also been told to move along.

we bicyclists need all the room we can. I'd like to see them actually enforce that law--it's a pity you got nailed for that when others just park in them with seeming impunity.

elitt

Subject: My ticket takes the cake...

After only two days being left on the 'wrong' side of the street (St. Marks between Underhill and Washington) without a license plate, sanitation marked as derelict, towed and subsequently 'recycled' my motorcycle.

It's now the size of a briefcase and I have to file a grievance with the city. NYC is DEFINITLEY clamping down in the area.

Nothing like this would have ever happened even one year ago...

anfield

homeowner wrote: Got you beat I got not one but TWO $115 tickets for parking less than six feet from a hydrant when the trunk of my car was about one inch past the yellow painted line. One ticket from a meter maid, and a second one from a police officer twenty minutes later.

The only good thing is I was on a business trip so I'm paying them and writing them off as a business expense.

Wish they were that diligent about the drug sales...

Sorry homeowner, but the law is 15 feet from the hydrant. The fact that the yellow line wasn't 15 feet long is irrelevant. It sucks, but the onus is on you to know the law, not for the DOT to maintain the yellow lines most of which were painted at least 10 years ago. (Also, a total of 12 feet for a fire engine to access a hydrant isn't very much now, is it? )

armchair_warrior

Subject: Re: My ticket takes the cake...

elitt wrote: After only two days being left on the 'wrong' side of the street (St. Marks between Underhill and Washington) without a license plate, sanitation marked as derelict, towed and subsequently 'recycled' my motorcycle.

It's now the size of a briefcase and I have to file a grievance with the city. NYC is DEFINITLEY clamping down in the area.

Nothing like this would have ever happened even one year ago...

sorry to hear . dang was it that one near umm that house with the slope garage and carriage house?

elitt

Subject: Re: My ticket takes the cake...

YUP/GONE

i wish I could at least pick it up and make a coffee table out of it

on the off-chance it was sold instead of being crushed, i'm going to continue to carry the ignition key in my pocket / if i see it on the road i'm going to ride it home!

armchair_warrior wrote: [quote=elitt]After only two days being left on the 'wrong' side of the street (St. Marks between Underhill and Washington) without a license plate, sanitation marked as derelict, towed and subsequently 'recycled' my motorcycle.

It's now the size of a briefcase and I have to file a grievance with the city. NYC is DEFINITLEY clamping down in the area.

Nothing like this would have ever happened even one year ago...

sorry to hear . dang was it that one near umm that house with the slope garage and carriage house?

armchair_warrior

i hope you can get some dough from the city. those lousy aholes!!!

homeowner

Sorry homeowner, but the law is 15 feet from the hydrant. The fact that the yellow line wasn't 15 feet long is irrelevant.

That's interesting because one of the tickets says 15ft but the other (the electronic one) says 6ft.

I don't mind giving the FD room, but I do think they need to maintain the lines if they are going to ticket me twice.

I wonder if the whole DOT "find and destroy" thing is a scam by some enterprising city employees. About three years ago my car was stolen from in front of my house at night (which is pretty damn unusual these days). I discovered it withing 3-4 hours of it disappearing and immediately called the police to file a report. The cops came made the report and told me to call the precinct to check in over the next couple of days.

Three weeks later I get a ticket from Sanitation for abandoning my car on a city street. I called sanitation and was told that they found my car without plates on the day after it was reported stolen and that they tagged it and had it destroyed three days later. According to their report the car had not been stripped or otherwise visibly damaged but was missing the plates. Called the cops and they said they had not been notified that Sanitation had found the car and that before the car was towed Sanitation should have checked to make sure that it was not stolen or involved in a crime. So, I have no car and a ticket for $350. Ended up having to go to ECB to get the ticket thrown out. To this day I'm convinced that some Sanitation worker is driving around in my car...

armchair_warrior

homeowner wrote:

Sorry homeowner, but the law is 15 feet from the hydrant. The fact that the yellow line wasn't 15 feet long is irrelevant.

That's interesting because one of the tickets says 15ft but the other (the electronic one) says 6ft.

I don't mind giving the FD room, but I do think they need to maintain the lines if they are going to ticket me twice.

it really depends on the locale enforcers. for exmp. there is one on a block that i regularly park at. the hydrant is like 5 feet away but there is a drive way there. and never get any parking tickets!

anfield

Homeowner, wow, sounds like you've been getting screwed by some Kafkaesque bureaucratic shit.
Armchair, I totally agree that it depends upon the "enforcer" (who is really David Soul, if I'm not mistaken) and most enforcers are tolerant of at worst 10ft, it seems to me, but if you you get the ticket for less than 15 ft, well thems the breaks.

armchair_warrior

homeowner wrote:

Sorry homeowner, but the law is 15 feet from the hydrant. The fact that the yellow line wasn't 15 feet long is irrelevant.

That's interesting because one of the tickets says 15ft but the other (the electronic one) says 6ft.

I don't mind giving the FD room, but I do think they need to maintain the lines if they are going to ticket me twice.

I wonder if the whole DOT "find and destroy" thing is a scam by some enterprising city employees. About three years ago my car was stolen from in front of my house at night (which is pretty damn unusual these days). I discovered it withing 3-4 hours of it disappearing and immediately called the police to file a report. The cops came made the report and told me to call the precinct to check in over the next couple of days.

Three weeks later I get a ticket from Sanitation for abandoning my car on a city street. I called sanitation and was told that they found my car without plates on the day after it was reported stolen and that they tagged it and had it destroyed three days later. According to their report the car had not been stripped or otherwise visibly damaged but was missing the plates. Called the cops and they said they had not been notified that Sanitation had found the car and that before the car was towed Sanitation should have checked to make sure that it was not stolen or involved in a crime. So, I have no car and a ticket for $350. Ended up having to go to ECB to get the ticket thrown out. To this day I'm convinced that some Sanitation worker is driving around in my car...

sounds fishy enough!

homeowner

sounds like you've been getting screwed by some Kafkaesque bureaucratic shit.

At the time I chalked it up to my really bad luck as I had just made my last car payment. Now I realize that it was actually fate as I ended up buying a car from a solider who was shipping off to Iraq and couldn't afford to put it in storage while he was away. Said car I kept until this year when I gave it to a young lady who lives in Baton Rouge and lost her transportation during Katrina. So the fact that NYC decided to kick me in the ass once actually didn't end up all that bad.

muteflute

homeowner wrote:

sounds like you've been getting screwed by some Kafkaesque bureaucratic shit.

At the time I chalked it up to my really bad luck as I had just made my last car payment. Now I realize that it was actually fate as I ended up buying a car from a solider who was shipping off to Iraq and couldn't afford to put it in storage while he was away. Said car I kept until this year when I gave it to a young lady who lives in Baton Rouge and lost her transportation during Katrina. So the fact that NYC decided to kick me in the ass once actually didn't end up all that bad.

wow. that's. wow.

rossmelanie

Subject: Re: My ticket takes the cake...

elitt wrote: After only two days being left on the 'wrong' side of the street (St. Marks between Underhill and Washington) without a license plate, sanitation marked as derelict, towed and subsequently 'recycled' my motorcycle.

It's now the size of a briefcase and I have to file a grievance with the city. NYC is DEFINITLEY clamping down in the area.

Nothing like this would have ever happened even one year ago...

oh no! first a construction truck bangs up the fender and now this?

armchair_warrior

Subject: Re: My ticket takes the cake...

rossmelanie wrote: [quote=elitt]After only two days being left on the 'wrong' side of the street (St. Marks between Underhill and Washington) without a license plate, sanitation marked as derelict, towed and subsequently 'recycled' my motorcycle.

It's now the size of a briefcase and I have to file a grievance with the city. NYC is DEFINITLEY clamping down in the area.

Nothing like this would have ever happened even one year ago...

oh no! first a construction truck bangs up the fender and now this?i think maybe (here comes my conspiracy theory!) the construction dudes know the sanitation dudes and they want just to get rid of the bike!!!

elitt

Subject: money honey

This is in process/filed papers with the city comptrollers office yesterday and will update dailyheights following their ruling...

armchair_warrior wrote: i hope you can get some dough from the city. those lousy aholes!!!

brooklynpotter

homeowner wrote: Got you beat I got not one but TWO $115 tickets for parking less than six feet from a hydrant when the trunk of my car was about one inch past the yellow painted line. One ticket from a meter maid, and a second one from a police officer twenty minutes later.

i had a similar incident with two tickets from two officers, 12 hours apart. i tried to fight it, but stupidly didn't do it in person. but it seems to me that if you get home at dinnertime and get a ticket then, then get one at 7 am... well, you know what i mean. it seems ridiculous because if i were there to move the f'ing car i'd have done so.

isn't this like double jeopardy?

elitt

Subject: Re: My ticket takes the cake...

UPDATE: After 10 months of battling the city, I'm about (god I hope I'm about) to hear back from the NYC Comptroller's office in regards to the claim I filed against the sanitation dept. LAST MAY.

Stay tuned...I've heard that the cases currently under review will set some type of precedent.

elitt wrote: After only two days being left on the 'wrong' side of the street (St. Marks between Underhill and Washington) without a license plate, sanitation marked as derelict, towed and subsequently 'recycled' my motorcycle.

It's now the size of a briefcase and I have to file a grievance with the city. NYC is DEFINITLEY clamping down in the area.

Nothing like this would have ever happened even one year ago...

paraderest

Hey, I've got news for you. You can have 3 tickets put on your car per day, not just 2 and they can all be written by the same officer/traffic agent.

BTW, nobody has to ask you to move your car or give you a warning. If you are double parked, standing or parked in a no standing, parked in no parking zone...you can get a ticket with no questions asked. Sorry.

king without a crown

It appears that all those complaining here, are in fact in violation of the NYC Traffic rules. Double parking, parking in bike lanes, obsructing access to fire hydrants and even parking vehicles without a License plate all can be hazardous. I know being on the recieving end of a summons is never pleasant, but for the guy who gets hit by a car trying to avoid vehicles parked in the bike lane, a summons doesnt seem to be an adequate punishment. As for vehicles being removed from city streets, NYC laws prohibits vehicles without license plates to be parked on a public street. Often these vehicles attract opportunists who either strip and vandalize these vehicles, leaving a dangerous condition behind which often kids gravitate to. Also nothing pisses off the Fire Dept more than blocking Fire Hydrants, the combination of snow and poorly parked vehicles is enough to slow down the efforts to effectively fight fires therefore placing all of us in uneccessary danger.

qtrain

elitt

Subject: damn straight skippy

That's exactly what they do...and rightfully so. It's not about spite or the model of the car...more so it's about maximizing the reach of the hose

qtrain wrote:

elitt

Subject: ...but in my case

If you take a moment to re-read this string and the others associated with it, you'll realize that nobody was debating the legality of their situation...the discussion centered around whether or not ENFORCEMENT of existing regulations in p heights has been 'manhattanized'

If you're going to spend every waking minute of your life on these boards, at least have a general understanding of the debate you're entering.

I'm about to win my case against the city because they didn't execute the due dilligence city law mandates.

Vehicle owners are supposed to be notified that their property may be siezed via certified mail...my bike was marked and towed within a period of 6 hours / not the 48 the law requires...I could go on.

There's been a large interal investigation into the illegal snatching of vehicles by DOT and Sanitation...many have been take illegally.

King without a crown wrote: It appears that all those complaining here, are in fact in violation of the NYC Traffic rules. Double parking, parking in bike lanes, obsructing access to fire hydrants and even parking vehicles without a License plate all can be hazardous. I know being on the recieving end of a summons is never pleasant, but for the guy who gets hit by a car trying to avoid vehicles parked in the bike lane, a summons doesnt seem to be an adequate punishment. As for vehicles being removed from city streets, NYC laws prohibits vehicles without license plates to be parked on a public street. Often these vehicles attract opportunists who either strip and vandalize these vehicles, leaving a dangerous condition behind which often kids gravitate to. Also nothing pisses off the Fire Dept more than blocking Fire Hydrants, the combination of snow and poorly parked vehicles is enough to slow down the efforts to effectively fight fires therefore placing all of us in uneccessary danger.

paraderest

elitt, how could the city notify the owner if you removed the plates?

As for that pic of the fire hose going through the car window...The owner is lucky that they only broke the windows. FD will ram your car and push it out of the way. Cars blocking hydrants or fire zones have been "totalled" by responding fire trucks.

king without a crown

Since when has the term "Manhattanize" been used to describe traffic enforcement? The fact of the matter is, that illegally parked vehicles get summonsed regardless of the Borough they're parked in. If im not mistaken your moped was often parked on the sidewalk, another violation which should have been enforced.

elitt

Subject: i do love a rousing debate

King without a crown wrote: Since when has the term "Manhattanize" been used to describe traffic enforcement? The fact of the matter is, that illegally parked vehicles get summonsed regardless of the Borough they're parked in. If im not mistaken your moped was often parked on the sidewalk, another violation which should have been enforced.

The fact of the matter is that there are varying levels of enforcement across the city. This is a thread about whether or not the enforcement practices in Prospect Heights -on average- have become more like the enforcement practices in Manhattan.

Reading comprehension 101.

Manhattanize has been a term used to describe traffic enforcement since the person who started this thread coinded it.