Get out of my neigborhood! How low can you go ?

brooklynman

Just want to know if people have similar stories.

Yesterday, about 7pm, my wife and I walked on Flatbush at the corner with Lincoln St. on our way to a restaurant when suddenly a guy turned to us, for no obvious reason, screaming that we had to leave HIS neighborhood, he strongly gave the impression that he wanted to go into a fight, he continued squaring and told me next time I would leave in a casket. We did not react, it did not seem wise to go into argument with a drunk/drugged/brainless lunatic.

About half an hour later we where on our way home and again the same guy passed us and threatened that he would punch my (7 months pregnant) wife in the stomach.

How low can you go, telling an innocent pregnant woman that you will hurt her and here unborn baby just because she walks on a sidewalk?

We never saw that guy before, we do not usually walk at that exact spot.

Is this a crazy one men act or does this happen frequent at that place?

whatchuwant

Sounds like this guy:

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/topic/blatant-racism-maple-flatbushwondering-why

bobmarvin

Yes, it sounds like the same nut job as in the previous post. This is NOT a usual occurance in PLG. His threats might actually have justified a 911 call.

cool the kid

If you see him again, get a picture of him and report him to the cops. That really sucks man.

armchair_warrior

happens pretty frequently when i walk into a working class area or poor area. I'm asian and sometimes it happens in middle class areas.

bobmarvin

NOT so frequent HERE and not behavior that should be tolerated.

brooklynman

I agree, this guy's behavior is far over anything acceptable by any standard in any culture or community.

benny_b

OP, please call and report this incident to the 77th precinct community affairs office here: (718) 735-0634 (http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/precincts/precinct_077.shtml)

What you are discussing is a crime. He threatened your pregnant wife. And based on the other story posted by "Whatchuwant," which matches this story, there are probably many other victims of this Lincoln Pl & Flatbush psycho. It could be only a matter of time til he gets violent. Don't let that happen. Please call the police. That's what they're there for; they need to know about guys like this.

Remember, guys like this are usually substance abusers with mental problems, and they are a threat to any peaceful, nonviolent citizen, black or white.

bobmarvin

Right, but assuming the incident was at Lincoln Road and Flatbush, it's the 71st Pct. If it was actually Lincoln Place, it most likely did not involve the same nutjob as the Maple St. and Flatbush incident reported last week. The OP wrote "Lincoln Street" which doesn't exist.

brooklynman

Lincoln Rd and Flatbush Ave; exact location was somewhere between Maple St and Midwood St.

bobmarvin

You might want to post this on our local "Leffertswatch" Yahoo list too.

cremate

I dont think this would fly on lincoln place

rezist

cremate said:

I dont think this would fly on lincoln place

Yea it would, there was a shooting near the intersection of Lincoln and Classon the other day. Ignorance isn't limited to any particular neighborhood. Luckily I haven't had anything that intense directed at me. (in terms of racism) But I've heard comments from ignorant people all over the city over many years.

quantumsilence

This sort of stuff is becoming quite common in our neighborhood. You would think taht this sort of biased behavior was relegated to teh 1800s.

trumystic

Umm why cant we just chalk this up to stupid and or crazy people? The world is full of them (especially in NYC) and they spew their shit up all the time. In a city of 8 million I expect many mfers. The key is to step out of the way or to not let it get you down. I am sorry it happened to you. But I wonder if your race has to do with how you process this aggression, Brooklynman? In terms of it doesnt happen to you often and thus you take it extremely personally?

Yesterday morning while walking to work, a white guy started cussing out this black guy in a car who was stopped in the crosswalk. He called him "coon, ni**er cocksucker" and said something about shooting him. I gave him a dirty look, he laughed and said "isnt it great to be a racist". Then he proceeded to call me a black bitch and whore and that someone should "take care of me" and I think he said something about rape. I considered cussing him out and decided it would stress me out too much to respond in kind and kept walking.

I forgot about it until I read your post. Unfortunately, this is pretty standard as a black person living in America. Dude is a shitehead who will get his at some point. But if I had a dollar for all the aggression, racism and prejudice that is directed at me I would be a rich woman. But I dont dwell on it and try to keep it moving. I focus on areas of my life that I control and have found that to be an extremely successful coping mechanism.

ntfool

Black or white, not many people I'm aware of would cope well with someone threatening to punch their 7-months pregnant wife in her belly.

Having said that, there is clearly also no excuse for what that dumbsh*t yelled at you the other day either. But there is also no reason the OP shouldn't report his incident to the authorities, if that's what he feels is prudent.

cool the kid

Trumystic said:

Umm why cant we just chalk this up to stupid and or crazy people? The world is full of them (especially in NYC) and they spew their shit up all the time. In a city of 8 million I expect many mfers. The key is to step out of the way or to not let it get you down. I am sorry it happened to you. But I wonder if your race has to do with how you process this aggression, Brooklynman? In terms of it doesnt happen to you often and thus you take it extremely personally?

Yesterday morning while walking to work, a white guy started cussing out this black guy in a car who was stopped in the crosswalk. He called him "coon, ni**er cocksucker" and said something about shooting him. I gave him a dirty look, he laughed and said "isnt it great to be a racist". Then he proceeded to call me a black bitch and whore and that someone should "take care of me" and I think he said something about rape. I considered cussing him out and decided it would stress me out too much to respond in kind and kept walking.

I forgot about it until I read your post. Unfortunately, this is pretty standard as a black person living in America. Dude is a shitehead who will get his at some point. But if I had a dollar for all the aggression, racism and prejudice that is directed at me I would be a rich woman. But I dont dwell on it and try to keep it moving. I focus on areas of my life that I control and have found that to be an extremely successful coping mechanism.

Somehow I don't believe you are threatened as often as you claim... in your example for example, I doubt that if dude really threatened to rape you you wouldn't have called the police. And the idea that such confrontations/treatment is the norm for black people is ridiculous. As a black man who's been in NYC all my life I've been threatened more by other black people than white people, and statistics validate that as being more reflective of reality.

I think it's important NOT to dismiss this, as it could be indicative of increasing aggression to people in CH deemed as 'outsiders'. Your advice is bad. What if they see this guy again and he decides to make good on his previous threats? What if he really is an emotionally disturbed person who shouldn't be out in public? Someone should make that phone call.

trumystic

Cool the Kid, you can believe what you want. Interesting how you validate OP while minimizing the veracity of what happened to me yesterday, hmmm? The man said exactly what he did. And yes I have been harassed many many times and regularly (and its not by black people). I know that if I had made the call to the precinct the guy would have been long gone and they would have asked me if he hit me-if not "oh well". The reason I say this is the police doesnt really care unless you look a certain way or if you end up seriously messed up in the hospital (and sometimes not even then). I had been assaulted by a man on the street, had a hospital report and when I made a report to the police they were completely disinterested, unhelpful and unsympathetic.

I am happy for you that you are not continually harassed because of your race. If the poster goes to the police I hope he actually gets sympathetic treatment.

cremate

I think its healthy we can all discuss race without getting all bent out of shape. Were sure as hell doing better than our government.

whynot_31

I'm going to go out on a limb and state that I think being threatened sucks, regardless of who does it to you.

homeowner

I think that there's room for both approaches in this type of case. Yes, if someone threatens you and you feel that the person may be serious, or seriously disturbed, by all means call the cops. At the same time, recognize that there are plenty of people who are mentally ill walking the streets of CH (especially those areas that may be near any of the homeless shelters, halfway houses, and sober living facilities that dot the neighborhood) and you can't let those people ruin your day or instill a fear of the entire community.

Also, Cool, there are plenty of comments ALL women get in this city. Overt harassment of women occurs all the time. From teens screaming at women on the train to men grabbing young women to talk to in clubs and bars. There are plenty of women who get called whores and bitches by both men and women for the smallest perceived slights. As for threats of violence (including rape), while they are less likely they most certainly do occur.