A bloody end to summer: 24 shot in 24 hours

whynot_31

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/09/05/2011-09-05_bloody_weekend_24_shot_in_24_hours_prompting_mayor_bloomberg_to_call_for_tougher.html

whynot_31

Thirty nine people shot since Sat morning!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gunfire_interrupts_brooklyn_parade_ra4iBVeaKOdhB5vLKBucaJ#ixzz1X7BPMpW0

Nope, that isn't a headline from 1996.

whynot_31

Update: We are now at forty-six (46) people shot since Sat AM.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gunfire_interrupts_brooklyn_parade_ra4iBVeaKOdhB5vLKBucaJ#ixzz1X8Bc741x

boygabriel

WTF?

whyfi

Boygabriel said:

WTF?

whynot_31

Daily News tally of the weekend's gun violence is now complete:

48 people shot since Saturday morning.

9 people shot in 12 hours in Brooklyn alone.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/09/05/2011-09-05_nine_people_shot_in_12_hours_in_brooklyn_on_the_heels_of_shocking_24hour_weekend.html

The Wall Street Journal counts 10 dead and 50 wounded

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424053111904537404576553181576923182-lMyQjAxMTAxMDAwNTEwNDUyWj.html?mod=e2tw

I hope I am off topic, but I wish to state I really hated all of the crime in NYC in the 1990s and really don't want to go back.

homeowner

I was reading a friend's facebook posting on the violence at the parade this weekend and someone who works for a local politician posted the factoid that there was one weekend in June where 33 people were shot in a 48 hr period throughout the city. The person she worked for tried to get some local news coverage, but it was subsumed by other things going on in the city. The consensus was that the lack of other news of Saturday was what allowed the story to take off this time, but that these numbers aren't that out of line with other weekends seen recently.

There was also some talk about this being related to larger gang violence and that discussions have been quietly circulating in certain local political circles about a teen curfew similar to what has been instituted in Philly.

whynot_31

Despite Bloomberg's big plan, the city has yet to effectively engage young men at the highest risk of violence.

...so, yea, I expect short term fixes like curfews and incarceration to be expanded.

boygabriel

, I expect short term fixes like curfews and incarceration to be expanded.

short term fixes, long term exacerbations.

Bloomberg is like all the rest of them.

whynot_31

One thing is for certain: We are not going to increase funding for social services, schools, police and prisons all at once.

Some of the above will get increases, and others won't.

I suspect we will choose a plan that is short term, and has no contract. If we are lucky, we will get something from T-mobile.

boygabriel

We are not going to increase funding for social services, schools, police and prisons all at once.

I can cross one thing off that list, for sure.

whynot_31

2012 and beyond version:

We are going to cut overall government funding. We presently fund the following things: social services, schools, police and prisons.

Which will we leave intact and/or increase?

armchair_warrior

I am disappointed by the lack of deaths on criminals. they should be more deaths not less.

boygabriel

whynot_31 said:

2012 and beyond version:

We are going to cut overall government funding. We presently fund the following things: social services, schools, police and prisons.

Which will we leave intact and/or increase?

Nothing is going to change.

Less money for: social services & schools

more money for: prisons

The state of California spends more on prisons than it does on Universities.

/allyouneedtoknow

whynot_31

The newspapers have a sudden thing for counting.

They are now up to 100.

They have made a map:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202058781407149723466.0004ac45b36c6437bfe79&msa=0&ll=40.913513,-73.883915&spn=0.106504,0.264187

homeowner

Okay, so I took a quick look at that map. If you look at the "Parade Area" as extending from Atlantic to the South, Empire to the North, GAP to the East and Howard to the west (and those are pretty generous boundaries):

1) It appears that all weekend there were a total of 11 incidents (10 shots fired, 1 stabbing).

2) Out of the 10 shots fired, one lists no victim.

3) Three of those shootings occurred either Friday or Saturday

4)Five of them occured after 5pm (the parade started shutting down at 4pm)

5)Only two actually occured on the parade route (and one of those needs to be double checked as the text lists the location as East New York Avenue and Eastern Parkway, which would not be along the route at all)

whynot_31

I have taken the liberty of responding to you in the Mr Mayor thread.