Where is the media?

anonymous

A 16 year-old girl went missing Sunday and was found, dead, on Thursday in a garbage bag in Bedford-Stuyvesant.

Why so little media curiosity? We saw plenty of Imette St. Guillen, and of course, Natalie Holloway has been an ongoing obsession.

Is it really a matter of race?

If there was intensive coverage now, maybe it could be solved, witnesses might come forward.

armchair_warrior

its about being pretty. they like pretty girls on tv.

edit: fugly people needs loving too.

anonymous

Correction: they want pretty WHITE girls on TV

guess men an minorities don't count :x

armchair_warrior

thalia wrote: Correction: they want pretty WHITE girls on TV

guess men an minorities don't count :x

na i think they'll pay attention to any pretty girl not just white girls. but men in generally they dont give a rats ass. cause all us men know we buttugly and fugly to look at.

anonymous

well...if you're correct all the minority women that have disappeared must be fugly because they sure have not made the media's prime time hour :?

armchair_warrior

thalia wrote: well...if you're correct all the minority women that have disappeared must be fugly because they sure have not made the media's prime time hour :?

look at media in general. they only use good looking minority women on tv. if they are fugly they rarely get used!!!

same thing goes for crime attention. if you dont happen to be good looking or some crazy sad story behind it. than they wont care. they like what would generate alot of attention.

anonymous

so I'll repeat myself...

are all the minority women who've disappeared are fugly?

armchair_warrior

thalia wrote: so I'll repeat myself...

are all the minority women who've disappeared are fugly?

i would dare say not what the general media consider good looking.

anonymous

lol..nice exit from that corner you got urself in

but you know darn well its about been pretty AND white

carnivore

Who are "all the minority women" who have disappeared? Maybe it's the media blackout (excuse the pun), but I haven't heard of any besides the one you mentioned above. Is there a hidden epidemic?

armchair_warrior

thalia wrote: lol..nice exit from that corner you got urself in

but you know darn well its about been pretty AND white

no corner. hell i normally not pc at all. i tend to offend everyone! its stating the obvious. they never really care about ugly people! think about the animals they are trying to save panda and other huggable things. never snakes nor snails and other things.

anonymous

off the top I can think of at least 3 or 4 gruesome stories within the last 12 months that only received passing mention..including those 2 asian women that were burnt to death in Bklyn.

look at it this way..what is the ratio of white vs minority disappearances that the media makes a hullaboo about. When was the last time you saw a big fuss been made about a minority woman's disappearance?

Do you think only pretty white women are at risk in our fair city/country :?

anonymous

armchair_warrior wrote: [quote=thalia]lol..nice exit from that corner you got urself in

but you know darn well its about been pretty AND white

no corner. hell i normally not pc at all. i tend to offend everyone! its stating the obvious. they never really care about ugly people! think about the animals they are trying to save panda and other huggable things. never snakes nor snails and other things.

sorry dude..i don't buy into ur theory that minority women are ugly..even by media standards

homeowner

Around the time of the Natlie Hollaway disappearance there were a couple of stories about the number of black girls/women that were missing stateside whose stories were not being covered by the media. The only one of those stories that ever got even close to nationwide coverage was the young lady in Philly that disappeared while she was pregnant.

It was interesting to me that the one article I read about the Bed-Stuy girl's disappearance made a point of mentioning that she was strangled and not sexually abused. For all you journalists out there, is the presence of a sex crime one of those things more likely to get coverage?

I also think that the crime statistics tend to show that homicides in Central Brooklyn are far more likely to be committed by people known to the victim. I wonder if a story that could be "homicidal maniac killing Bklyn women" gets more coverage.

But missing women get far more coverage than missing men, so maybe most men are ugly too...

anonymous

Subject: yes i noticed this

i noticed that this case is not being blown up in the news like imette st. julien (sorry if i got her name wrong)

i am fully aware of the media and the nation at large not caring about missing & murdered women of color. it makes me SICK!

this case MIGHT receive more coverage however, after they further expand the new development that her death might be related to her MySpace page. the media most likely will jump on the MySpace angle, since that is something that is more in the news these days.

jaha127

I saw a little 2 min blurb on this murder on 11pm news on CBS2 last night... but after searching the internet this morning... this is all I could find... http://mycrimespace.thetrenchcoat.com/archives/315-Cops-using-MySpace-to-search-for-Brooklyn-girls-killer.html


(Crown Heights-WABC, June 24, 2006) - The NYPD is trying to solve a murder mystery involving a 16-year-old girl from Brooklyn. They are now looking on the popular web site MySpace.com for any leads.

Police at the 77th Precinct in Crown Heights say they're still looking for 16-year-old Chanel Petro Nixon killer. They believe it may be someone the victim knew.

Chanel Petra Nixon will remain sweet-16 for eternity and that's just how her heart-broken family wants her to be remembered.

"It's already out that she was chopped up and she was not. Her body was whole. Her body wasn't even cut. She wasn't stabbed or anything," said Errol Wilson, the victim's cousin.

Her family is now in shock. Relatives are trying to cope with the gruesome way the body was found.

Officials say her remains were discovered stuffed inside a garbage bag that was dumped on Kingston Avenue, just one mile away from home. Police say when they found Chanel's body she was partially clothed but there were no signs of sexual assault.

Investigators are now looking into conversations the teen had on MySpace.com, an internet web site popular with teens. Her cousin says the Boys and Girl's High School student loved to chat online. Still, no one knows who would want to strangle Chanel and put her body in a garbage bag.

Neighbors say they saw Chanel Sunday morning as she crossed the courtyard in front of her building. She was dressed in her Sunday best and on her way to church.

"She had a long life. A prosperous life ahead of her," said Wilson. "Unfortunately, it was cut short."

jaha127

homeowner wrote: Around the time of the Natlie Hollaway disappearance there were a couple of stories about the number of black girls/women that were missing stateside whose stories were not being covered by the media. The only one of those stories that ever got even close to nationwide coverage was the young lady in Philly that disappeared while she was pregnant.

It was interesting to me that the one article I read about the Bed-Stuy girl's disappearance made a point of mentioning that she was strangled and not sexually abused. For all you journalists out there, is the presence of a sex crime one of those things more likely to get coverage?

Sometimes I think regardless of what color the victim is if the crime is sort of, and for lack of a better term "sexy" then the media will pick up on it. I work in publishing and I know... for a fact that "sex" no matter how disturbing or gruesome will sell. And Thalia, I agree with you… if the victim was “white” female I am sure that this would have been all over the news, just like the girl from John Jay…

Essence magazine… took a interesting look at the lack of media coverage of minority women disappearing… its an insightful read…

http://www.essence.com/essence/lifestyle/voices/0,16109,1071711,00.html

anonymous

waiting for Mr. Warrior to point out how unattractive those women are :tapping fingers:

carnivore

The most recent disappearance in that article was from over 2 years ago (even though the article was published in 2006). And none of the girls was from the New York area. I googled a few of their names, and they all seemed to have multiple stories from newspapers in their area (Tamika Antoinette Huston, for example, was featured in stories in the Cincinatti Herald and the Savannah Tribune, as well as radio links like NPR). I don't think that every white woman who's disappeared has become a national story.

I'm not saying that there aren't disparities because clearly there are, but I don't think they're as common or as pervasive as you're making them out to be.

anonymous

please tell me the last time there was a huge media fuss about a minority woman disappearing? I can reel off several HEADLINING FOR WEEKS stories about white women.

the disparities are very common and very pervasive..take off the rose coloured glasees

carnivore

Thalia wrote: please tell me the last time there was a huge media fuss about a minority woman disappearing? I can reel off several HEADLINING FOR WEEKS stories about white women.

the disparities are very common and very pervasive..take off the rose coloured glasees

I agree that it's unfair, but I don't think common is really the right word when you're talking about a handful of people over the course of 7 years (based on the article you linked to). And honestly, the ones with the headlines for weeks are really overkill. Maybe the real problem is too much coverage of white women who disappear.
I'm going to step out of this one now because it's basically a half-empty or half-full thing.

anonymous

Subject: More questions than answers

I just don't know. I work at the school she went to , but didn't know her. Her friends are understandably distraught, and I have no reassuring words for them. Or for myself, frankly.

As to the 'cuteness' factor, she was very cute, a church-goer, and apparently a good student. I didn't even hear about her disappearance until Wednesday, although she went missing on Sunday. I just keep thinking that if there had been some sort of "Where's Chanel" hysteria whipped up by the Monday evening news, some people that may have seen something odd on Fulton would've had a reason to come forward.

Maybe a family has to reach out to the media to have it happen. I saw no news at all, until Channel 7 (ABC) covered it, and then gradually others came in with very brief stories.

carnivore

Subject: Re: More questions than answers

Occasional Poster wrote: Maybe a family has to reach out to the media to have it happen. I saw no news at all, until Channel 7 (ABC) covered it, and then gradually others came in with very brief stories.

That's a really good point. Maybe part of the problem (although undoubtedly not all) is due to differences in how media-savy or influential the families are? Let's face it- the quality of news today is not what it once was. There is little to no actual investigative reporting. Much of what gets shown on TV are basically press releases that are spoon-fed to the media. People who know how to manipulate this system are more likely to get heard.

jaha127

random thought... if its not race that affects media coverage... is it class?

armchair_warrior

there is a case of a girl getting killed in fort greene and she is black. there is some coverage. if that counts.

anonymous

Carnivore..u've got me ROTFLMAO..u can't come up with one much less two headline stories about a minority woman's disappearance can you? Yet you still won't/can't admit the reality...this is not a case of "which way you look at it" btw..I did not post that link...so what if the stories are old? I still see Natalie Holloway stories on the national news shows. And no there should not be less coverage on white women disappearing...that's a bit callous of you, no? There just needs to be more even coverage..including men.

I do agree that some of the coverage is driven by media savvy parents (or people they know)

Mr. Warrior..thx..there's hope yet

apollonia666

thalia wrote: I still see Natalie Holloway stories on the national news shows. And no there should not be less coverage on white women disappearing...that's a bit callous of you, no? There just needs to be more even coverage..including men.

I do agree that some of the coverage is driven by media savvy parents (or people they know)

Natalie Holloway is a perfect example of that -- her mother's been a one-woman publicity machine from the get-go.

armchair_warrior

apollonia666 wrote: [quote=thalia] I still see Natalie Holloway stories on the national news shows. And no there should not be less coverage on white women disappearing...that's a bit callous of you, no? There just needs to be more even coverage..including men.

I do agree that some of the coverage is driven by media savvy parents (or people they know)

Natalie Holloway is a perfect example of that -- her mother's been a one-woman publicity machine from the get-go.

yeah family members should scream and bother the media and police!!! they care more when you are the loudest!!!

ben

The Daily News covered this yesterday: http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/430127p-362518c.html

armchair_warrior

they just did a story on a locale kid getting killed by her mom and mom's bf in east new york. girl is black. this got reported today.

anonymous

armchair_warrior wrote: they just did a story on a locale kid getting killed by her mom and mom's bf in east new york. girl is black. this got reported today.

ur talking about the little girl?