Bob and Betty's 2

tateinbk

NY-style pizza was wood oven or coal oven,

That sounds expensive. As far as I'm concerned NY Pizza has to be foldable, the grease is just extra. Foldable and Affordable. Mmm, that sounds very desirable.

eastbloc

The wood or coal oven thing is meaningless.

You can make perfectly crappy pizza in either of those, and similarly you can make excellent pizza in your kitchen (though it does help to have a pizza stone).

whynot_31

I will proudly admit to enjoying a slice of greasy pizza at Antonio's on Flatbush, despite it meeting some readers definition of "trash pizza".

However, I see no reason to eat Red Barron when I am outside of Ohio.

ntfool

whynot_31 said:

However, I see no reason to eat Red Barron when I am outside of Ohio.

Yes! My point exactly. I'd rather do greasy and foldable to frozen.

homeowner

Coal and wood cost way more to permit, purchase and install than regular pizza ovens. So no, most NY pizza isn't wood or coal fired. My definition of NY-style pizza is pizza that can be purchased either by the slice or the pie. The Motorino, Patsy's/Grimaldi's, Frannys, Giuseppina's, Lucali, DeFaro, Totonno, etc. are artisanal versions of NY pizza, but they are not true NY pizza as you can't purchase a single slice.

booklaw

Chacune a sa goute!

travelriter

I'm really grateful to have Bob & Betty's, I think they have an amazing selection of things you just can't find easily in our area. However, I have to admit that when I first moved to Crown Heights over 10 years ago I would get really pissed when I shopped there. I had several negative experiences in their market; spoiled milk, rotten meat, and I rarely/never saw fruit that wasn't rotten. But it seems like once Tony took over (or once people with a bit of $ moved in) a few years ago, all of a sudden the supermarket owners seemed to care more about the neighborhood and it's residents and realized that we deserve fresh food. I don't want to sound bitter, because like I said I am grateful and I happen to like Tony and the workers, but it is annoying that a supermarket can get away with treating customers like crap selling substandard food/products until certain types of people move into a neighborhood. But I guess that's everywhere, and maybe I'm wrong and it could have been a few isolated incidents. In any case, he's doing something right now because the place is fantastic. A bit too pricey for me, (I still shop at the smaller produce shops and bigger/ often cheaper markets), but he does stop pretty much whatever I could want from a whole foods (and more).

whyfi

ntfool said:

Sounds like you just don't like NY-style pizza: the greasy and foldable kind.

Incorrect - I don't like poorly executed pizza of the foldable, greasy sort.

homeowner said:

The Motorino, Patsy's/Grimaldi's, Frannys, Giuseppina's, Lucali, DeFaro, Totonno, etc. are artisanal versions of NY pizza, but they are not true NY pizza as you can't purchase a single slice.

I can guarantee you that none of the founders of those establishments set out with the goal of gussying-up NY style pizza. To suggest that speaks to the delusions of NY pizza grandeur.

whynot_31

I bet they opened those places under the belief that customers would buy the pizza and they could make money, without caring whether it was authentic to NY.

Just like Antonio's and the other greasy places.

Sounds like a good strategy.

pulpandbean

Hey kids. Thanks for your support of @bobandbettys and P&B. Look for the opening of B&B2 towards the end of summer 2012. When finished the store will offer everything from fresh local and organic fruits and veggies, dairy, frozen, dry goods, and a full deli with a cheese counter and an olive bar. The whole store is going to be redone inside and out. Its going to be great. I really wanted to open P&B2 on the south side but couldn't get the space, so I decided to offer all the cafe services in the shop. Drip, lattes, espresso and chai lattes will be offered in the deli dept. I'm still up in the air about growers?? I will decide later, but I will have a GIANT craft beer section. I welcome any feedback, and thank you again for your support.

Tony

BTW starting the 15th Bob & Betty will be open 24hrs 7 days!!!!!

oneasternparkway

Thanks, Tony. Any chance of some less industrial meat options being offered at either store? Perhaps some Bell and Evans or Murray's whole chickens?

oneasternparkway

OnEasternParkway said:

Thanks, Tony. Any chance of some less industrial meat options being offered at either store? Perhaps some Bell and Evans or Murray's whole chickens?

Weirdly, the day after I posted this, I went into B&B's to see some nice looking Murray's chickens on display. Thanks!

dmiami

Giving this a bump .... I've noticed construction going on again. Anyone know what's up?

Thanks

opossumqueen

Apparently a women's boutique. link.

eastbloc

Huh? That's on 5th.

opossumqueen

Ha...sorry. I'm just so used to people getting the name of Bob and Judi's wrong (often as Bob and Betty's) that I saw the post and though it was about that spot.

whynot_31

on a similar thread, pulp and bean wrote on Feb 26, 2013:

pulpandbean said:

The first step was opening the law office (now open) . The second step is opening The pulp and the bean prob 3wks to a month away. And third, will be opening b&b. This will be abit longer but the project is still active.

When you open Bob and Betty's II, will it be similar to Bob and Betty's I?

How will it be different?

pulpandbean

The new BB will be very different. I will be offering a full service deli catering to the teachers and local population. I will have a a cheese counter. There will be more organic and locally produced goods. I will post the floor plan online when ihave some time

chloeroyale

Tony how are u going to deal with the lower income people in that area. You know the dead stare u always give them.

chloeroyale

Whynot I like how u feel that u see the area around Franklin ave due to rent stabilization etc will remain unchanged the more u write the more I see keep it coming.

[Mod Note: Edited above. Please don't use people's real names. KHTX]

whynot_31

pulpandbean said:

The new BB will be very different. I will be offering a full service deli catering to the teachers and local population. I will have a a cheese counter. There will be more organic and locally produced goods. I will post the floor plan online when ihave some time

Thanks. There are a lot of health care workers too. They seem dominantly female. You can see their nursing scrubs.. Many of them seem to love salad, so you might want to have a by the pound ready to eat salad section and some stools for folks to eat at. Good profit margins there.

pulpandbean

I spent most of my life south of EP it will be like being reunited with old friends again. Money never was never a factor in my dealings with people rich or poor. I also would like to say to other business people to look south of EP. The rents are much cheaper and unlike the north side, it is very under serviced leaving lots of room for new businesses of all types. If anyone wishes to speak to me I will make myself availible to discuss business opportunities along Franklin and beyond

whynot_31

Thanks, but I'll stick to my 9-5. I have worked for small businesses before and they are far too much work and risk for my tastes.

chloeroyale

Wow pulp and bean is now communicating with the follow merchants my my my things have really changed.