Let's talk about the violence in Eastern Crown Heights

whynot_31

whynot_31

As a result of the conversation, you could decide whether you agree with this guy's perspective:

https://www.causes.com/posts/829496?recruiter_id=161654073&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=wall&utm_source=fb

Note: short video autoplays when you click link

whynot_31

pssst, today is October 17th.

pragmaticguy

Personally, what I think will help cure gun violence is witnesses actually pointing out to the cops who committed the crime but.

1) Lots of people don't like the police

2) They're afraid (and possibly rightfully so) of retaliation.

So there will probably not be much accomplished by the citizens to help lower crime which will leave it all up to the cops. It's sort of like parents who don't make sure their kids do homework and expect teachers to make sure their kids learn.

whynot_31

Ending the norms against Snitching isn't going to be easy.

...the norms exist whenever and where ever one has more to lose from snitching than one has to gain.

whynot_31

Advertising for the next conversation begins:

Please join us on November 21st, when we reconvene for session two of Community Conversations to continue the discussion and consider some of the ways that we can act to reduce the violence in Crown Heights. The dialogue will take place at 6:30 pm at Launch Charter School, on 1580 Dean Street.

pragmaticguy

Since it's not listed I hope someone brings up...

1) Parents who are MIA

2) Parents who aren't but don't give a shit

whynot_31

Under Sources there is one titled "Stressed Families and Fractured Communities".

Seems like it may encompass some of what you are seeing.

pragmaticguy

I saw that but fractured communities implies more of a "it takes a village..." deal and stressed families to me means that there are problems that the parents are having a hard time coping with. But, that's just my opinion.

whynot_31

I hear you.

If they used the term "Broken Families", it might imply that single mother headed families caused violence.

....needless to say, this is about way more than not having a dad.

whynot_31

https://www.ted.com/talks/gary_slutkin_let_s_treat_violence_like_a_contagious_disease#t-836433

hdaisy

Thanks for the video whynot! So interesting to see the comparisons between homicide maps and disease maps.

Also, very relevant to think through this lens as we enter flu season!

landlord

Thanks for sharing this video

whynot_31

You are welcome. And, I am pleased to announce that the NYT just gave the film and the conversation some coverage:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/12/opinion/nocera-unlearning-gun-violence.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0

The next Neighborhood Conversation is November 21st.

whynot_31

Session 2 gets a snazzy flyer:

whynot_31

In light of the conversation occurring tonight, this article being published is very timely

Blacks Are 25 Times More Likely To Be Shot Than Whites In NYC - Gothamist

Whites were more likely to be victims of grand larceny and petit larceny than other racial groups.

pragmaticguy

Was anything resolved last night? Or was it useless since the people committing the violence usually don't show up. Pardon me for being cynical.

whynot_31

People who showed up looking for resolution were likely disappointed.

Those who showed up looking to meet people whom hold similar views on the long term causes and solutions will likely be back for Session 3.

I find it interesting to meet people who have been working on the issue for decades.

To paraphrase a MTA bus driver I once talked with: "We will have jobs until nobody needs to get anywhere, and everyone is where they need to go".

pragmaticguy

I will say that the people who show up for these meetings have more faith and hope that violence can be lessened than I do. I wish them well.

whynot_31

whynot_31

BTW, there was a shooting on December 6th, near Sr. Johns Pl and Utica Avenue.

Two men were shot and are expected to survive their wounds.

Today, (Dec 7th) S.O.S. staff and S.O.S. volunteers held a rally in response to the shooting.

whynot_31

There was a shooting this morning, Dec 23 :

Around 2:40 am this morning, there was a shooting in front of 1119 Prospect Place, between Albany and Kingston Aves. A 28-year old male was wounded and taken to Kings County Hospital where he was admitted.

S.O.S. Crown Heights is organizing a community rally TOMORROW to express our collective opposition to this act of violence in our neighborhood during the season of peace. Even though - perhaps because - it is Christmas Eve, we hope you will join us for 30 minutes to stand against violence.

whynot_31

A shooting occurred at St. Johns and Schenectady in the early AM of Jan 1.

whynot_31

The next conversation occurs on January 12th:

whynot_31

The next conversation occurs on January 12th:

whynot_31

I'm having trouble learning how to embed, so here's the direct link:https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yhW1sW5k7H8/UsG98rxqx2I/AAAAAAAAFqw/E83_qSldQ8c/s640/Community+Conversations+Jan+2014-page-001.jpg

nothinlikeabklyngirl

According to DNA Info, the 47 rookie cops who just joined the 77th precinct have allowed the Impact Zone in that area to be extended. It'll now go from Utica to Ralph between Sterling and Eastern Parkway, plus Lincoln Terrace Park. Hopefully that'll help.

Crown Heights Precinct Gets Influx of Rookie Police Officers - Crown Heights - DNAinfo.com New York - DNAinfo New York

The 77th Precinct plans to beef up its presence in Crown Heights hotspots with 47 new officers. 

whynot_31

Lately there has been a lot of drug activity and violence on St. Johns, near Utica....as well as on Lincoln, near Utica.Given the rising property values in the area, I expect the police officers working the Impact Zone to be told to be very "assertive".

whynot_31

As noted above, the next conversation is next week:Wednesday, January 22ndHere's a photo of some of the folks that participated in the conversation on December 12th:

whynot_31

whynot_31

Cancelled due to weather.