10 Years of Muddy Waters (Split from the Joyce Bakery thread

poot

I used to go to Muddy Waters. I am not a big coffee drinker, but I got hooked on the peanut butter monkey (I am still trying to get that monkey off my back and have been forced to make my own at home.)

The owner was nice enough when she was there. For sure she has an attitude on her - and it isn't "the customer always comes first" - but the real issue for me was consistency. There was a super nice sort of short woman that used to work there in the afternoons, who was an excellent. When she left, I left too. No one else serves up a decent drink in that place.

alafairnadia

poot wrote: but the real issue for me was consistency. There was a super nice sort of short woman that used to work there in the afternoons, who was an excellent. When she left, I left too. No one else serves up a decent drink in that place.

well sure - if they served awesome coffee, people would probably still go there. new yorkers will put up with a lot of abuse for good product - look at the soup nazi, for instance, or the number of people on this board who think the service at soda is awful but still go there all the time. what we won't put up with is a lot of abuse for inconsistent, generally lousy quality.

and that's probably why so many ppl are loving joyce - the service is GREAT and the product is great quality. MW would totally lose in a mocha throwdown.

sadarami

Subject: Muddy Waters

My recollection is that the Muddy Waters lady originally opened a similar coffee place a couple doors down. (I think the name had chocolate or cocoa in it maybe but can't recall for sure.) This was sometime during or after 1996, maybe 1997? It didn't last too long, maybe a year? but then she reappeared up the block as Muddy Waters. I moved from PH over to the Slope 5 years ago but and the place was poorly run back then too, in fact I think I am still waiting for my iced coffee from July 2000.

alafairnadia

Subject: Re: Muddy Waters

Sadarami wrote: in fact I think I am still waiting for my iced coffee from July 2000.

isa

It was definitely there at the end of 97.

harabele

Subject: too muddy

The reason I don't drop a dime at Muddy Waters is partly due to the owner's infamous rudeness but really because of politics. I went there a year ago to ask if I could post a sign for an anti-Atlantic yards event and she was all rude like, "Hell no. I love Bruce Ratner and his big ass Arena." something like that... I'm anti-Arena so I don't patronize the place based on that principle.

carnivore

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