Plastic Surgery Office in Clinton Hill - offensive photos???

jocelyn

I have known about this new plastic surgery center opening up at the corner of Fulton & St. James since before it opened. It's been open at least a year now. However NOW they have put up huge window-size photos of nude women, highly visible at the corner of the building. The main problem with this? It is in direct view from the mosque on Fulton St. I know there is a phone booth directly outside of this mosque and when there are beer ads on this phone booth the people try to cover the ads up with cardboard. Compared to a beer ad these pics are nothing! It is several bldgs. away from the mosque and across the street, but for some reason I still feel these new window decorations are in poor taste and obtrusive to the neighborhood.

I have attached two pics from my cellphone, sorry for the bad quality!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/shajean/plastcsurg.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/shajean/pltcsurg2.jpg


Oh here is the website for the center:
www.plasticsurgeryinbrooklyn.com

leffertsgirl

i have no plans of ever getting plastic surgery, but i find it interesting when plastic surgeons offer specials on major surgery. (this place has "tummy tuck and two areas of lypo for only $9,000!")

i suppose it makes sense for some customers, but if i were going to have my body significantly altered during a major surgical prodedure, i'm not going to make my decision based on the doctor offering the best two for one deal.

carnivore

I always feel the same way about surgical supply stores that have window displays of crutches and walkers and bedside commodes.

As if someone going by is going to stop in for an impulse buy because they saw something in the window that they "just had to have." :twisted:

jocelyn

in my first post i meant to say that compared to these window pictures, beer ads are nothing.

about this center: i think that headshots of various men & women would have sufficed as addt'l graphics to advertising their list of services (which they have in another window)

whyfi

I don't see anything wrong with them. They're nude, but not exposed. I see far more tasteless advertising every day.

boygabriel

jocelyn, have you spoken to anyone from the mosque? I'm curious if they've made efforts to speak to the plastic surgeon office.

on a semi-related note, the thought of anyone getting cosmetic plastic surgery just sends chills down my spine.

jimmylegs

my suggestion: the mosque probably can determine what is best for itself. unless you think the surgeon is purposefully trying to bait them, i don't see an issue.

arzan

I dont see this as an issue. The pictures are not pornography, and not provocative in nature. It is advertising at its "best" or "worst" whichever way you see it, but is not in any way demeaning.

And if the mosque really feels there is an issue, they should sort it out with the owners of the business.

Discussing this on this forum is unnecessarily trying to create an issue where none exists.

anonymous

Give me a break. The funny thing is that this plastic surgeon exists at this location. I live nearby and would never dream of going there if I ever wanted plastic surgery (which I wouldn't frankly, barring a disfiguring accident),.

I think the mosque painting the phone booth and covering it with cardboard to hide a picture of a bottle of Heineken was ridiculous, especially when some of their congregation runs the filthly bodegas that sell booze and allow dealers to hang out in front of their stores day and night.

On top of it all, there is no nudity, no exposed naughty bits, in the advertisements. Before getting worked up over these legitimate but cheesy advertisements half a block away from the mosque (which shouldn't matter as the mosque has no grounds to dictate what is advertised off of its premises), you should be offended by the drug dealing and by the constant bad language from the low lifes slumbering up and down Fulton throwing trash on the ground and drinking out of paper bags in front of the mosque and all along this part of the street.

queencallipygos

Anonymous wrote: I think the mosque painting the phone booth and covering it with cardboard to hide a picture of a bottle of Heineken was ridiculous, especially when some of their congregation runs the filthly bodegas that sell booze and allow dealers to hang out in front of their stores day and night.

I don't see this as a contradiction; you said "some" of the congregation. Who says that everyone in the congregation all marches in lockstep? Other people who didn't own bodegas could have done that, couldn't they?

And forgive my skepticism that they REALLY "allow dealers to hang out in front of their stores day and night".

anonymous

Regardless of whether you see this as a contradiction or not (and I understand your point that the bodega owners who sell alcohol and are mosque members don't necessarily speak on behalf of the mosque as a whole), the mosque has no right to deface public property or tell others what advertisements are permissable in the neighborhood.

As for allowing dealers to hang out in front of bodegas, that's a given. There are particular bodegas where the dealers congregate day after day, at all hours, and the bodega owners are not calling the cops to complain, clearly. Draw your own assumptions.

queencallipygos

lp wrote:
As for allowing dealers to hang out in front of bodegas, that's a given. There are particular bodegas where the dealers congregate day after day, at all hours, and the bodega owners are not calling the cops to complain, clearly. Draw your own assumptions.

That's just it, though, there are several assumptions one could draw, ranging from "maybe it really ISN'T 'day after day'" to "maybe the owners are calling but the dealers are good at evading the cops" to "maybe the owners are so busy running the business that they don't have time to call the cops" to "maybe they're not dealers" to....

At present, I have only one person's say-so that a) they are dealers, b) they really do appear in front of the same stores every day, and c) the owners aren't doing anything. That's a little bit too little information for me to assume that "the owners aren't doing anything about it."

anonymous

Whatever, it's a bit off topic and is what it is. I see it everyday as do all my neighbors who walk this strip of Fulton on the way home. :roll:

anonymous

Here is another peson's say so that the same dealers and look outs hang out in front of the same bodegas every night. really why would quuencllipygos be questioning that one? They also sell crack pipes from the bodega at the corner of St James and Fulton. If that isn't aiding and abetting the drug trade, I don't know what is.

remi_ch

I don't see how you could find those pictures more offensive than an ad showing a woman humping a beer bottle.

queencallipygos

Anonymous wrote: Here is another peson's say so that the same dealers and look outs hang out in front of the same bodegas every night. really why would quuencllipygos be questioning that one? They also sell crack pipes from the bodega at the corner of St James and Fulton. If that isn't aiding and abetting the drug trade, I don't know what is.

...If you know for a certainty that there is a bodega selling crack pipes, and you are here posting about it rather than calling the police, wouldn't that also make you guilty of aiding and abetting the drug trade?...

Whatever. I just got uncomfortable when the mosque got singled out for some reason, as I couldn't see the connection between "hey there's a mosque there" and "these pictures are objectionable." I suspect that if it were a church instead of a mosque, no one would have commented on that fact.

anonymous

queen - the original poster is the one who brough up the mosque and how they think the pictures will be especially offensive in light of the way the mosque reacted to previous pictures of beer bottles on public pay phone advertisements (painting the pay phone and covering it with card board). I could care less if we're talking about a mosque or some other organisation dictating what advertisements are permissible in a neighborhood. It's not theirs to decide.

In any event, the original poster is the one making an issue with respect to the pictures on the plastic surgery, not the mosque, so this is pointless.

anonymous

If you know for a certainty that there is a bodega selling crack pipes, and you are here posting about it rather than calling the police, wouldn't that also make you guilty of aiding and abetting the drug trade?...

No. 1. I have called the police. 2. I can't imagine any distortion of an admittedly colloquial phrase rather than a legal one which would equate my passive knowledge with the actions of business owners who sell crack pipes. What is your beef with this? Is that you don't believe me or that you think it is unfair to mention?

anonymous

Are you people for real? going on about some photos of naked bodies and plastic surgery. I could think of a few more important things to be concerned about. And all plastic surgery is not cosmetic surgery. It's okay to spend milions on a building or thousands on a car or clothes. But it is so shameful and pathological to try to improve the one thing that is truly yours- your body?!!!!. For many people having plastic surgery, cosmetic or non-cosmetic can be very positive. Oh BTW, the one knows so much about the special must have gone in because I didn't see anything about the special outside. - sugargirl