Does 'Hipster' automatically equal Brooklyn? [now w/video!]

caaahyoko

doctorj wrote: [quote=themfa]THE recent attention given several bands with black members — like Bloc Party, Lightspeed Champion, and the Dears — could signify change. “Return to Cookie Mountain,” the second album by the group TV on the Radio, a band in which four of the five members are black, was on the best-album lists of many critics in 2006. Around the country, other rock bands with black members are emerging....

Wow, I didn't know rock music had reached black culture yet, much less that black people were actually playing it. That's great to hear.

hahaha!!! I love you...as does my husband...and Vernon.

Black people playing rock music??? Wha???

michaelkeys

Did I miss something here?

I'm not endorsing the article but I thought the point of the NYT was that people--right or wrong and whomever they may be--in both the mainstream and, especially, indie rock circles are noticing the presence of black rockers more and more these days, not that black culture had just discovered rock music, or that black rockers are a new thing, both of which would be preposterous assumptions.

caaahyoko

MichaelKeys wrote: Did I miss something here?

I'm not endorsing the article but I thought the point of the NYT was that people--right or wrong and whomever they may be--in both the mainstream and, especially, indie rock circles are noticing the presence of black rockers more and more these days, not that black culture had just discovered rock music, or that black rockers are a new thing, both of which would be preposterous assumptions.

Still bullshit. Musicians have always noticed other musicians whatever background. And you know there have always been a bountiful number of black rock musicians out there. The media on the other hand, and whatever idiotic angle they want to take to write an article...well, has little bearing on reality.

Note: I didn't get a chance to read said article, so I'm just guessing at its stupidity. But I doubt I'm too far off from what I hear.

But from your signature, I see we are on the same page

michaelkeys

Without wanting to get into a protracted discussion on the subject, let me just say that it's precisely not about musicians but, as I mentioned in my post, mainstream and/or indie rock circles in general.

Oh, and btw, as a rock musician--and person of color--I have many times gotten the slightly surprised look from non-musicians when they try to put together in their heads the music with the person. (I'm sure you know about this all too well.) I don't mind. I've seen it happen to white horn players, too, when they mention they play in a salsa or merengue band.

v

Yeah, I agree. The odd thing I've found about Park Slope, and why I'm not surprised to see such a negative reaction to the word "hipster" here, is that this neighborhood has the cutting-edge equivalent of historic downtown St. Charles. :P

http://www.mainstreetstcharles.com/index.htm

As much as you criticize "hipsters" for all wearing the same thing, I see plenty of people donning the "Park Slope" uniform. There are lots and lots of people out there who choose these little subsets to reside in for whatever reason, be it comfort, fear of your innate self, etc.

What's the "Park Slope Uniform?"

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i was called a hipster cause i am gay :-({|=

mrkraayon

i love hate wrote: i was called a hipster cause i am gay :-({|=

I'm pretty sure that any young, white person who doesn't have kids, or dresses like a yuppie, is considered a hipster.

laura

How can you dress like a yuppie and be considered a hipster? It's like when I'm looking for vintage clothes on eBay and people describe things as HIPPIE MOD.

mrkraayon

laura wrote: How can you dress like a yuppie and be considered a hipster? It's like when I'm looking for vintage clothes on eBay and people describe things as HIPPIE MOD.

exactly. You might need to re-read my post.

laura

Ah. See, now, I'm so confused at this point as to what anyone means by 'hipster' that I don't know how to take anything.

mrkraayon

I'm a hipster, you're a hipster, he's a hipster, she's a hipster.....wouldn't you like to be a hipster too.

laura

MrKraayon wrote: I'm a hipster, you're a hipster, he's a hipster, she's a hipster.....wouldn't you like to be a hipster too.

I have a sudden urge to do the Teaberry Shuffle ...