Atlantic Yards: Barclays Center - pix

8thandprez

I was reading the premiere issue of Conde Nast Portfolio at lunch today and came upon this veeeery interesting ad:





Love the logo, with the stylized Miss Brooklyn over the Barclays bird.

Apologies for my crappy camera phone. The text at the bottom drones on about the exciting new development and amazing new open space and incredible new concert hall and peformance center and Nets arena.

oiseau

It looks great! And not a lot of traffic!

8thandprez

The non-Gehry-fied building in the foreground is obnoxious. If that represents the bulk of the AY buildings, as appears to be the case, I'll switch my support to opposition.

charlesbklyn

Subject: So Not brooklyn

If this is the "new" face of Brooklyn, then we have really lost a part of our soul. At the very least, this stadium should have been called "Jackie Robinson Stadium."

We are all being forced into the lame culture of mainstream corporate meaninglessness.

Fortunately, if any of the legal cases are won, this might prevent this aesthetically blundering and opportunistic developer, who has shown himself to possess no real vision nor understanding of Brooklyn, from moving forward.




I fear Brooklyn is on the same path as the Buffalo.

Lets Keep Brooklyn Brooklyn.
Charlesbklyn

frank lloyd wrong

I think it looks pretty fantastic. In my opinion, Brooklyn will benefit from this in the long run. It may be professional habit, but good architecture (while clearly subjective) builds good neighborhoods.

8thandprez

The image of Ebbet's field is pretty godawful, if you ask me. Sure, it's got some nice, if very repetitive, architectural flair, but look at that street-level conditoin. Blank walls for miles. I can only picture a nice, hot, muggy summer day out there on the sidewalk. Torture!

I've been a supporter of AY from the get-go. It's kind of a "hate the sinner, love the sin" sort of thing. Ratner sucks, but the project needs to happen. I just wish it wasn't Gehry for every. single. goddamn. building.

charlesbklyn

Subject: Clarifying th AY

You need to read a little deeper ... I wasn't saying we should rebuild Ebbets Field. I was trying to make those, like yourselves, understand the truth of the matter: Instead of the Brooklyn we love, we are going to get something different. And that difference is not Brooklyn. (At least the one I am aware of, and I am born and raised)

Supporters of the "AY" speak without a care for this truth. I assume most did not grow up in Brooklyn or don't own property here. Of course, as your views and your support of the project means the developer will get to preverbal "shit" on my Brooklyn ... You anger me with your lack on concern for your neighbors.

An as for aesthetics, give me a break. The proposed Atlantic Yards looks like something out of a crazed acid trip to Disney World. The grandeur of the past beats this nightmare any day of the week.

Oh, and using an acronym (AY) for the Atlantic Yards development is ridiculous. Call it what it is, The Proposed Atlantic Yard Development, the biggest urban development in the city's history.

Charlesbklyn

caseopele

That looks absolutely hideous, I have seen very few new buildings that I like. They look like they used their kid's building blocks, boxy with no style. I know I'm biased since I love old buildings. But these new ones have no character and nothing to really differentiate them from other new buildings.

veets

Charlesbylyn.... I totaly understand the sentiment behind your posting. Part of that is I am 57 years old and born and raised in bklyn. That pic of Ebbets field.. well that is the pictue in my mind but I was too young to have a memory of a ball game I attended there. Missed it by a little.

Shoot me if I I don't wan't my grandkids (who are born and bred Brooklynite babies ) to grow up in a Brooklyn where a base ball stadium looks like the one proposed for Atlantic Yards!! Even the name offends me.. what the H does that mean anyway?

homeowner

8thandPrez wrote: The non-Gehry-fied building in the foreground is obnoxious. If that represents the bulk of the AY buildings, as appears to be the case, I'll switch my support to opposition.

8thandPrez, if you want to get an idea as to what the non-Gehry portions of AY will look like, just wander a few blocks north and look at the architectural splendor that is Metrotech. The building you reference looks like an exact replica of Bruce Ratner's ode to beige (yellow? orange? what the hell color is that?) brick.

charlesbklyn

Subject: JRS

Thanks Veets, and I understand your position too. I would even defer a little more to your position as your have been here longer than I.

I am just disappointed that instead of a terrific mixed income urban development which fits into the fabric of the existing neighborhoods, we have Ratner's Atlantic Yard development ... a development, in my opinion, preconceived by the developer and public officials whose sole purpose is to benefit the developer and other wealthy interests, such as a British or American Bank, corporate franchise.

Many of use, probably like yourself, worked hard for many years, when others would no,t to maintain and enhance our Brooklyn neighborhoods. Its the reason why the surrounding neighborhoods to the Atlantic Yard site are so great, and why the development is an exploitation of that work, in my opinion.


I really think the stadium should have been named "Jackie Robinson Stadium," regardless of the sport. It would have at least put a Brooklyn face to this god-awful mess to come in the next decade and beyond.

I fear this will be the end of Brooklyn, as I know it .. and maybe others do as well.


Photo: Over capactiy at recent DOT public meeting, April 2007


cheers.
Charlesbklyn