The G train rules! (What you can do)

anonymous

There has been a lot of talk lately concerning the g train-it's safety and it's reliability. Check out www.savetheg.org to find out how we can all continue to show the city that we care. I spoke with a transit worker at the Fulton St. stop the other day. He stressed that everyone should call this number and that improvements are already underway, but to keep calling!


Call MTA Chairman Peter Kalikow at (212) 878-7200.

Demand that current full night and weekend service be maintained.

G trains must be increased in length to six cars.

The G train must travel to Queens Plaza at all times.

Full service must be restored to the G line!

boygabriel

why does the G need six cars? I've never seen a G train so crowded that people couldn't get on at rush hour.

are there proposals to reduce night & weekend service?

anonymous

are you kidding? i take it during rush hour every day. the stops between bedford nostrand and hoyt are packed-standing room only, usually. there is so much development going on in the waterfront area of brooklyn, it will only get more densely populated.

anonymous

I only see the front of the first car heading from Hoyt to Bed-Nos ever get truly crowded. I try to wait at the back of first car front of second an its not bad unless some douche tries to bring a bike on.

queencallipygos

Boygabriel wrote: why does the G need six cars? I've never seen a G train so crowded that people couldn't get on at rush hour.

I have.

And I've also seen people miss the train because they can't run fast enough from the stairs to the back end of the train when it's in the station.

I mean, I'll grant you that neither situation is a Defcon-2 level crisis, but at least it'd be an easier change for the MTA to implement than trying to build the 2nd Avenue subway...

boygabriel

Right, I don't think the MTA is going to add cars so that people can run & make the train.

On the other points I admit ignorance as I tend to ride closer to 9 am which is after 'high' rush hour

boygabriel

Floydcat wrote: are you kidding? i take it during rush hour every day. the stops between bedford nostrand and hoyt are packed-standing room only, usually.

then it sounds like there isn't a massive need for more cars. if almost everyone can get on the train, then there isn't much of a problem.

there is so much development going on in the waterfront area of brooklyn, it will only get more densely populated.

the massive population influx to williamsburg is years away. they haven't even broken ground on most of the new waterfront developments.

I'm a regular G-train rider and I support it's continued use, but I don't see any huge pressing issues here. Subways are absurdly crowded at rush hour. I don't see the G suffering any worse than any other lines, and lord knows it's better than an A or L train at rush hour.

isla

Thanks for the info.

Floydcat wrote: are you kidding? i take it during rush hour every day. the stops between bedford nostrand and hoyt are packed-standing room only, usually. there is so much development going on in the waterfront area of brooklyn, it will only get more densely populated.

This is true. I have even had to wait for the next train occasionally. Often it is packed at rush hour in these areas.

bklynguy11205

Subject: Who is kidding whom?

Please people, I don't care what time you ride the G, making the trains full length eliminates the "G traing sprint" all together. Why shouldn't we have the same service as all other lines in the system. Why must we G train riders enter our stations prepared to sprint to catch a train knowing the next train could be 15-20 minutes away (hello, a more robust schedule equal to that of all other lines, i.e. Manhattan is another area that could use improvement).

anonymous

The G runs every 5 minutes during rush hour and every 10-15 during no peak hours. The only time there is a 20 minute wait is when the trains are backed up (rare).

carmen

^do you ride the G?
I take it at least twice a day every single day. I can assure you that I have waited 20+ minutes during rush hour more times in the past year than I can count on two hands, and have waited in excess of 30 minutes even more than that during non rush hours.

Seriously

The g is my bitch but it bascally ruins my commutes.

anonymous

http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/schemain.htm

If you click on the "G" train, it will give you a schedule. Apparently, it looks like the train is supposed to run every 7-10 minutes.

bklynguy11205

If you click on the "G" train, it will give you a schedule. Apparently, it looks like the train is supposed to run every 7-10 minutes.

Just because the almight MTA publishes a schedule does not mean they stick to it. Anyone with extensive experience with the G knows that a commmute WITHOUT a long wait is the exception, not the rule.

boygabriel

Subject: Stats are stats

BklynGuy11205 wrote: Why shouldn't we have the same service as all other lines in the system.

I believe the # of cars should be proportional to the number of riders. If we have 70% the ridership of other lines, then I have no problems with us having 70% of the number of cars.

(I made those numbers up, I have no idea what they really are, but my point stands).

BklynGuy11205 wrote: Why must we G train riders enter our stations prepared to sprint to catch a train knowing the next train could be 15-20 minutes away (hello, a more robust schedule equal to that of all other lines, i.e. Manhattan is another area that could use improvement).

I just don't think the G is that much worse in frequency than any other train, especially during rush hour. The annual Straphangers Survey pretty much bears this out. The G is on the bottom end of the list when it comes to frequency, but it isn't even the worst train in the city. (Almost all trains are every 20 mins during late night)

It's not a great train, but it's reputation is largely undeserved.

Based on these stats, the G Train comes at regular intervals 87% of the time, compared to the system-wide rate of 88%. The G train comes less frequently than other trains during rush hour, but late night nights it's every 20 minutes like most other trains (A, C, L, 4, etc).

I maintain my original point, if there isn't construction, the G train is as good or bad as almost any train in the city.

(However if there is construction then run away, far far away!)

anonymous

I have never waited twenty minutes for the A except in Far Rockaway, but in Brooklyn you have the A to Far Rock and the A to Lefferts so the wait is never more than 10 minutes. The G is more of a shuttle train to connect to the main lines so it doesn't get the attention of the other lines.