Backyard Grilling Rant

jamzer

I can't believe that BBQ smoke is good for you, I hope he was kidding. But I also doubt that BBQ smoke wafting into a window will cause cancer. Certainly not as dangerous as smoking a cigarette.

brooklynpotter

christ. do you people READ?

it wasn't about smoking a cigarette. it was about cig smoke wafting through your window vs. bbq smoke wafting through your window.

and yes, mrjenzam, i am pretty snarky today so everyone should take heed. (directed not at you but all of brooklyn, thank you very much)

armchair_warrior

/gives brooklynpotter some play dough and some hugs.

theoryofpractice

Karl the Druid wrote: [quote=bklyngirl]Next time they're grilling, grab a nice bottle of red wine, ring their doorbell, and get to know them. Life is too short to spend it being cranky.

if these are frat boys, here's what you do:

first yell from your window "hey ham-neck and the dutch chick! can i crash your grill?"

then wave a bag of coke and a lawn chair at them

you will blend

this also works with poetry readings if you substitute coke with meds, and the lawn chair with dire sadness

you too will blend

teh win

bklyngirl

brooklynpotter wrote: [quote=bklyngirl]
Smoking cigs I would consider a bigger deal, as it happens year round and presumably with some frequency. Then there is that pesky cancer issue....

sorry, there are carcinogens in the smoke from bbq-ing.

Please stop making it your life's work to disagree with everything i write. Jeez.

brooklynpotter

don't flatter yourself

apollonia666

HEY. Please remember the rules (handily accessible from the "THE RULES" link at the top of every page of the site if you need a refresher) and stop sniping at each other. That's not directed at any one person -- several folks are behaving snottily here.

And please remember -- when someone is rude to you, that doesn't mean you have to respond in kind.

Jeebus.

lmboogie

what's up with these "rules"? there was nothing offensive in any of these threads. the rules say you can't be sarcastic and punchy. give me a break with all of these fucking rules.

apollonia666

lmboogie wrote: what's up with these "rules"? there was nothing offensive in any of these threads. the rules say you can't be sarcastic and punchy. give me a break with all of these fucking rules.

Lmboogie, we have few rules here, but the primary one is we ask people to be nice in order to foster a neighborly tone here. Sorry you don't like that, but that's not going to change simply because you don't.

If you'd like to start a thread in "Ask Brooklynian" requesting that we reconsider expecting users to not tear each other apart so that folks can discuss whether that's a good idea, go for it.

sweet tea

1. there ARE rules. that is what is up with them.

2. there is a difference between sarcasm and petulance. sarcasm involves wit.

3. there's a big internet out there, full of grumpy people sniping at each other. brooklynian: love it or leave it.

brooklynpotter

i'm witty. pretty and witty and wise. :cat:

sweet tea

perhaps it's time to revive this thread: http://brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=424&highlight=dozens

dailyheights

Sorry to go back on topic, but I think I might sympathize a bit with lucky11.

Sitting at your computer, it's easy to romanticize BBQ smoke as just part of the "ambient sounds and smells of the city" that makes you proud to live in Brooklyn and clink beers with the neighbors.

Let's say the barbeque smoke was actually wafting through your window at this very moment, making you choke and setting off your smoke alarm while you were trying to concentrate on a deadline. You might have a different opinion.

Don't get me started about the pounding bass coming from the neighbors downstairs AND the neighbors upstairs. At midnight.

apollonia666

For anyone who's interested, discussion on the merits of our "be nice" rule is now taking place in Ask Brooklynian:
http://brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37469

bklyngirl

I'm really sorry if I said something offensive, but please point out where so i don't make that mistake again.

I try to make constructive posts, and a number of people agreed with what I had to say. I do my best to brush it off and ignore the one poster who, in my mind, baits me.

I apologize again.

lmboogie

Totally not a big deal, and why would he know it was happening unless someone told him?

the first thing i thought when i read the original post was.... give me a fucking break, how the hell would they know bbq smoke was actually bothering someone. then the word "complain" was used and i thought....it's not about complaining, it's about negotiating.
after reading some of the shit on this board that bothers people... i've become so paranoid that i hestiate to burn tiki lights in my backyard. cuz the damn cintranella (sp) smell may be killing someone.... instead of just having a conversation with me.

apollonia666

bklyngirl wrote: I'm really sorry if I said something offensive, but please point out where so i don't make that mistake again.

I try to make constructive posts, and a number of people agreed with what I had to say. I do my best to brush it off and ignore the one poster who, in my mind, baits me.

I apologize again.

Thanks, bklyngirl. My request to folks to be nice wasn't directed at any one person; this thread just seemed (and still seems, although not quite as badly as before) to be getting really sour and nasty. And we've just had way too much shouting and tension here lately.

The rest of this is is for everyone: If you disagree with someone's point of view, it's FINE to say so. All we ask is that you do so civilly, rather than taking on a nasty tone. We're not asking you to join hands and sing "Kum Ba Ya" -- we're just asking that people behave like adults. If you simply don't understand or can't relate to someone else's position, how about asking them a few questions to get some clarification rather than belittling them or being bitchy?

For example, if you don't understand why someone might complain about the neighbors' barbecue smoke, would it kill you to say somehing like, "I *love* the smell of barbecue smoke. Is there a lot of it coming into your apartment or is it just the way it smells that bugs you?" rather than climbing up their hiney?

And if someone responds nastily to something you say, it does no good to escalate things. Take the high road. Chances are the mods have already said something via PM to the offending party, and you can always PM a mod to ask that they look into the matter. We volunteer a lot of time and work really hard to keep this board civil because we think it's a valuable neighborhood resource that is made more valuable by a civil, open discourse. Please keep in mind that there are real human beings on the other side of a discussion from you, and that we're all neighbors.

armchair_warrior

I DONT SEE ANY CAPS FOR YELLING!!!


YOU GUYS SHOULD CHECK OUT THE YOU PEOPLE ARE HOSTILE TO BLACK WOMEN THREAD :P.

raw

misterjenzam wrote: [quote=brooklynpotter]
sorry, there are carcinogens in the smoke from bbq-ing.

Not true at all!! BBQ smoke is good for you.

Unless you're the lamb on the grill.

Smoke bothers me, but noise bothers me more. If I had to take my pick, I'd go with the neighbors and the grill minus the boombox over the loud mouths downstairs. This pair screams at each other until 2 AM followed by clumsy sex on their creaky bed that smashes into the wall.

armchair_warrior

wow raw wins err loses at this post. damn that sucks raw . you should umm leave a note on their door. you guys suck at sex .

karl the druid

Jamzer wrote: I can't believe that BBQ smoke is good for you, I hope he was kidding. But I also doubt that BBQ smoke wafting into a window will cause cancer. Certainly not as dangerous as smoking a cigarette.

smoke

cancer

bbq

cancer

paint

cancer

et cetera

cancer

it would be a terrible shame if we simply died of nothing before we get old

bookistan

I think this is a valid complaint. Our neighbors were grilling a few weeks ago and the smoke was so intense that it set off the smoke detectors in our apartment. We told them about it and they moved their grill further away from the backs of our buildings. Even if the smoke detector had not gone off, having smoke drift into one's apartment is not a good thing.