Dirt bikes are back, spring is here

tsarina

Big police roundup of all-terrain, off road bikes, etc. and they are gonna crush them for scrap - no police auction. heard it on the news last night.

whynot_31

Because the NYPD was wise to confiscated ATV and dirt bikes ending up back on the street after auctions, I believe they have been merely storing them for the past few years.

...which should make the crushing show be massive.

goldemi1

Put the riders on the bikes as they crush them, and make it a pay-per-view show to fund the efforts.

whynot_31

This event apparently happened Easter weekend:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUdwQu90Bk

Dawndew

I think this soundtrack is perfect for the crushing machine @whynot_31

whynot_31

I'm betting the event will be held at the Red Hook tow pound.    There are hundreds of dirt bikes and ATVs there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.671046,-74.018267,107m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

...bringing in a good sound system should be pretty easy.

whynot_31

The 71st PCT confiscated 4 dirt bikes on Empire yesterday

https://twitter.com/NYPD71Pct/status/721006012141019137

Dawndew

I think I know that red one   &;^P

whynot_31

I like the blue one they got over the weekend.

https://twitter.com/NYPD71Pct/status/721796684259463169

tsquared

Is the police strategy working?  I didn't see or hear the dirt bikes on Eastern Pkwy over the weekend.  Maybe I was just lucky and wasn't around when they were out...

Dawndew

Cannot wait to see the NYPD crush that beauty and hear the tears from the wheelie scuff laws. and see these spring things bloom.  My children can walk the sidewalks again...oh wait there arn't any delivery bikes here. gotta watch out just a little less.

Dawndew

I did see any all weekend @tsquared

whynot_31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAHT8rs2AZ0

If the NYPD is successful, it may be only a matter of time before there are dozens of people on Citibikes doing wheelies on my block.  

jong

Saw/heard them all over the neighborhood yesterday (both north and south of Empire)

whynot_31

Yes, I suspect there are literally hundreds of dirt bikes and ATVs in Brooklyn.

The NYPDs crackdown may increase the risks of the owner losing the bike(s), but if he doesn't rent them out that investment is also lost (not performing).

I don't foresee many of our local MOB operators deciding to sell their fleet to people interested in riding them on private land upstate.

whynot_31

The NYPD does its show for the cameras this week...

quote:

The city's top cop is going medieval on the summertime scourge of “screwballs” driving reckless, high-speed motor bikes on the streets.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said Sunday some 500 two-wheeled motorcycles, dirt bikes and four-wheeled ATVs seized by the police this year will be publicly destroyed sometime in the next week.

He went on to tee off on the folks who speed down crowded city streets in irritating flocks of the often-unmuffled machines.

The summertime ritual often snarls or stops traffic and sometimes results in accidents. At least two ATV riders have been killed in the past two years.

"These screwballs all basically run around in packs making idiots of themselves, and endangering themselves and the public," Bratton fumed to supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis on AM970’s “The Cats Roundtable.”

"In the next week or so, we will have a very public display of destroying all of those bikes so they can never be used again. These people are morons. They're idiots."

Bratton noted he knows that citizens complain that the police don't take action against the bikes. Dirt bikes and ATVs are illegal in the city.

"We have in fact been doing something," he insisted. "We're going to make an example of them and destroy them and we'll really have a good time doing that.”

Residents of one Manhattan neighbor where mobs of riders often buzz busy avenues say the sooner police get them off the streets, the better.

"Sometimes I can hear them when I'm home. Usually it's in the morning on weekends - when you're sleeping," said Finn Taff, 27, who lives near W. 116th St. and Morningside Park in Harlem.

"I'm all for...do it, have fun and destroy stuff, whatever, If it's making a point, it's good."

A neighbor, Umberto Picado, 68, said, "Good. All of them ... destroy them."

But others say the riders aren’t doing any harm.

"I actually like the ATVs driving around. It just adds a little fun," said Eric Gadson, 20, a student.

The crackdown officially began in early April, though by then the NYPD had already seized 312 bikes this year.

Drivers “haven’t gotten the message yet,” Bratton said at the time, foreshadowing his intention to destroy the machines. “They’re not going to be happy when we take these damn things and crush them so they can’t be used.”

In July 2014 cops arrested ATV rider George Evangelista, 44, for intentionally hitting a police officer with his bike. The officer suffered neck and back injuries.

In March 2015 Kenneth Proveaux, 49, was killed when he crashed his ATV in a Brooklyn park and vaulted head first into a concrete barrier. He was not wearing a helmet at the time of the accident.

In March 2014 Paul Rodriguez, 35, was killed and a second man was injured, when Rodriguez’s ATV collided with another ATV driver. 

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bratton-nypd-publicly-destroy-500-seized-motor-bikes-article-1.2620822?cid=bitly

Dawndew

Some idiots will feel the pain with this and modify their behavior.
I did see a cute father son bonding in Brower park apart of the the crowd watching the insane soccer games going on in this petite park.     The father was on a dirt bike in the grass and the boy age 6-7 was on a tiny mini bike and they were practicing spinouts n the grass. So Sweet.

whynot_31

The dirt bikes and ATV are already taken from the riders and not returned, so I don't perceive this upcoming crushing performance as being "for them".

So, I perceive this this show as being for us.  

...the NYPD is trying to state that they are addressing the problem, and that they are in charge.

It may allow them to take a more aggressive stance as the summer goes on.

Dawndew

@whynot_31 if these were not crushed the bikers could find a way to buy them back at auction with thier honor unblemished. However this is "for them" and us because they lose everything they invested in permanently. It has got to get old for them to see thier efforts in a machine go to scrap. Like a medieval Knight losing his horse.

whynot_31

For several years, the NYPD has not sold the confiscated bikes at auction.   They have instead just piled them in Red Hook because they figured out they would just be ridden on the streets again.

Also, as discussed above, most of the riders do not own the bike:   They rent them for the day.

So, I don't think we should think about individual knights on horses.

...instead, we should think about guys who want to be kings, and whose status comes from being able to hook up lesser guys with a great time, all while having Kyra's boobs pressed against their back.

Note the readers: The video featuring Kyra appears to no longer be online. My apologies.

Mechanical_Whispers

So where/when can we watch the show?

whynot_31

Mr Bratton wasn't specific.

...but I'm predicting it will be held at Red Hook, at 6:15 PM so it can be televised live during the evening news.

Dawndew

gotcha your point @whynot_31. didn't know they used rentals too

whynot_31

A few years ago, I spoke with an adolescent who occasionally participated in dirt bike MOBs. He stated the going rate was $200 for the day, which included an after party.

He wasn't on a "positive path" to adulthood.

whynot_31

No word on when the crushing event will be held, but they are using helicopters and ground units to "box them in" in The Bronx.

 

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/15/nypd-dirt-bike-crackdowns/

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Illegal motorcycles, dirt bikes and all-terrain vehicles came into the crosshairs for the NYPD Sunday evening.

As CBS2’s Brian Conybeare reported, there were a few dozen owners with empty space in their garages after the crackdown.

We see them every summer – rogue motorcycle, dirt bike, and ATV riders terrorizing neighborhoods. But at the 44th Precinct on 169th Street in the Bronx, many were taken out of commission.

Patrol confiscated eight motorcycles – including Yamahas, Hondas and other vehicles. So far, the unit has gotten more than 40 illegal bikes off the street – some of them stolen or unregistered with no plates or insurance.

The bikes will be crushed in a public event to send a message. Police Commissioner Bill Bratton announced the plan for the event last month, calling the dirt bikers “knuckleheads” and “clowns.”

“These bikes that are so near and dear to them – they’re not going to be too happy when we take those damn things and crush them so that they can’t be used,” Bratton said last month.

Two bikers were also arrested and charged with reckless endangerment Sunday, after they were allegedly caught speeding through the streets of the Bronx.

“We see these motorcycles, these ATVs being operated in a reckless manner, endangering pedestrians, and intimidating other motorists on the roadway,” said NYPD Lt. Brian Mullen. “They disregard traffic signals they don’t have any control at intersections. They’ll ride on sidewalks.”

The NYPD is using a helicopter to spot the outlaw bikers and direct units on the ground, so as to cut off or box in the motorcycles without using dangerous high-speed chases.

Dawndew

Anyone know if the new child size motorcycles I saw this weekend ripping up the sidewalk on  Park Place are illegal too? Do we need to crush these too? these are less than 4 feet long! Mindless parenting

whynot_31

Those are known as minibikes or pocket bikes.    ...and, no, they aren't legal on the road or the sidewalk.

 https://dmv.ny.gov/registration/motorized-devices-cannot-be-registered-new-york

However, my sense is that (unlike dirt birds and ATVs) they rarely leave the confines of the immediate area in which their riders live.

So, there is little pressure from the public to get rid of them.

Here's some more publicity for the upcoming crush show:   http://abc7ny.com/news/exclusive-ride-along-with-nypd-during-crackdown-on-atvs-illegal-motorcycles/1340150/

ehgee

whynot_31 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAHT8rs2AZ0

If the NYPD is successful, it may be only a matter of time before there are dozens of people on Citibikes doing wheelies on my block.  

I am entirely in favor of bicycle wheelies at all times.

And I'm getting awful tempted to get a Citibike membership again. If only they were in the neighborhood already. Stupid CB6 is getting them first.

whynot_31

The crushing was this afternoon.  

lots of good photos :

https://twitter.com/ChristRobbins/status/732628397789171712

Here's video:   

https://twitter.com/DeanMeminger/status/732624150372683778

Mechanical_Whispers

Just saw the video on Facebook. Not exactly "public", unless they're counting on social media after the fact. Probably didn't want a ground "war" to break out.
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https://www.facebook.com/NYPD/videos/vb.262068223869967/1031963476880434/?type=3